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Reply #70 on: July 27, 2016, 11:55:33 PM

As far as design goes, it looks less ridiculous than the TOS Enterprise. Even as a kid, the way that the parts looked like they were held together with Tinker Toys sticks bothered me. Don't really like the colors, really should have stuck with the classic grey on that.

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Reply #71 on: July 28, 2016, 05:30:49 AM

Aesthetics vs. Functionality.  Also Iconography vs. wanting something "new and different."

I get you enjoy being contrarian, Dave, but you know what people are about when discussing the design.

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Reply #72 on: July 29, 2016, 10:00:00 AM

I hold out hope that there is a clear reason why the ship is the way it is.  Likely a commemorative ship commissioned during the Federation-Klingon accords that ended the war; heralding an era of Starfleet exploration.  This is the only plausible reason, give that the series is supposed to be hearkening back to the TOS era, though in the Prime Timeline.


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Reply #73 on: July 29, 2016, 11:28:16 AM

Regardless of explanation it's ugly as shit. Even if they wanted to make a Klingon / Federation hybrid they could have done a lot better.

It looks so incongruous. The bottom half is all hard angles and flat surfaces, then the top is a saucer. It's less like Klingon and Federation engineers worked together and more like they created a horrible centaur.

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Reply #74 on: July 29, 2016, 11:42:17 AM

Regardless of explanation it's ugly as shit. Even if they wanted to make a Klingon / Federation hybrid they could have done a lot better.

It looks so incongruous. The bottom half is all hard angles and flat surfaces, then the top is a saucer. It's less like Klingon and Federation engineers worked together and more like they created a horrible centaur.

Or they were tasked with creating half the ship without consulting one another about how their half was being designed.


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Reply #75 on: July 29, 2016, 09:28:58 PM

It sounds like the explanation is that it's based off of Ralph McQuarrie concept art from the 70's that never got used after the plans for Star Trek Phase 2 fell through.
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Reply #76 on: August 18, 2016, 05:10:45 AM

Netflix will stream CBS' new Star Trek series all around the world
...except in USA or Canada.

This makes it seem like the new Trek isn't doomed from start due to a limited viewership (if it's any good).  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #77 on: October 28, 2016, 09:29:18 AM

Fuller Beams Out of Discovery Due to "Timing"

He'll still be involved, like Joss Whedon was involved in Agents of SHIELD in Season 1 after he handed it off (which is to say, only superficially as time allows), but this stopped being his show. 

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Reply #78 on: October 28, 2016, 07:20:49 PM

I just can't bring myself to give a fuck because screw CBS video service.

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Reply #79 on: October 28, 2016, 11:44:09 PM

I just can't bring myself to give a fuck because screw CBS video service.

This.

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Reply #80 on: October 30, 2016, 02:15:16 PM

That totally, plus another prequel-era bullshit. We get it: eugenics, nuclear war, warp drive, Vulcans, Klingons, Starfleet, Kirk/Spock/McCoy. After Enterprise and the three recent movies, they need to push things forward. I don't even care what timeline it is. Retreading the same stories and re-unlocking the same technologies just isn't interesting anymore. Thinking this is the way to draw traffic to All Access is middle-manager dumb. And thinking All Access is big enough to get people to watch this show, it's probably the guy in the other cubicle dumb.

I'm betting this gets quietly canceled before Feb.
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Reply #81 on: October 31, 2016, 12:29:05 PM

Would anybody who still watches actual CBS (not Netflix, Hulu, etc.) care to weigh in on how heavily CBS is advertising this?  And how much are they not mentioning the sub-only aspect?

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Reply #82 on: October 31, 2016, 01:04:41 PM

I DVR Big Bang, Elementary and NFL games.  I don't recall a single ad for it.  We are about 9 months out from the new date.

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Reply #83 on: October 31, 2016, 02:19:35 PM

If it weren't for this thread, and a single spurt of neckbeard bitching on FB about how the new ship looks like a Romulan Warbird hatefucked the Enterprise, I wouldn't have heard anything about it at all.

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Reply #84 on: October 31, 2016, 02:36:00 PM

I DVR Big Bang, Elementary and NFL games.  I don't recall a single ad for it.  We are about 9 months out from the new date.

Same. Not a peep.

But at the same time you're asking about how much advertising CBS is doing for next Summer's mid-season replacements right now. Also none. That doesn't happen until a month or two out from the actual start date.

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Reply #85 on: October 31, 2016, 03:58:38 PM

Gotcha.  For some reason I had it in my head that this was launching between Thanksgiving and Christmas; didn't realize it was so far off.

On the other hand, NBC used a large chunk of their Olympics ad space to promote shows that launched in October.  That's 3 months lead for your plain old "coming this fall" stuff.  Wouldn't you want 6 months lead for a new service?  Would you need the extra time to build hype for the return of such a huge franchise?  I'm asking -- I don't know squat about marketing strategies for stuff like this.

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Reply #86 on: October 31, 2016, 08:21:06 PM

They have been marketing the All-Access thing, because it's what they stream their shows on, but nothing specifically about Star Trek.

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Reply #87 on: November 01, 2016, 03:52:16 PM

The showrunner recently stepped down because he's too busy or something. The premiere date was also pushed back. I think this thing may go off the rails before it ever gets started.

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Reply #88 on: December 15, 2016, 05:45:52 AM

They just announced the lead, Sonequa Martin-Green.

So now when it fails it will be: "because sexism/ racism!"  and not, "We shouldn't have put this behind a paywall."  why so serious?

Oh, also she won't be the captain. She'll be a Lieutenant-Commander, because "We've had 6 series from a Captain's point of view so it's time for a different perspective."

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/12/14/star-trek-discovery-walking-dead-sonequa-martin-green

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Reply #89 on: January 19, 2017, 04:02:40 PM

Delayed, again:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/star-trek-discovery-delayed-again-as-spocks-father-is-cast-965494

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"Production on Star Trek: Discovery begins next week. We love the cast, the scripts and are excited about the world the producers have created," reps for CBS All Access said in a statement. "This is an ambitious project; we will be flexible on a launch date if it's best for the show. We've said from the beginning it's more important to do this right than to do it fast. There is also added flexibility presenting on CBS All Access, which isn't beholden to seasonal premieres or launch windows."
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Reply #90 on: January 19, 2017, 04:17:07 PM

Great example of what happens when you don't have deadlines, stuff doesn't get done.
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Reply #91 on: January 20, 2017, 09:05:46 PM

I wonder what the female equalivant is to growing a beard. It worked for Riker and Sisko...

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Reply #92 on: March 07, 2017, 10:51:11 PM

Jason Isaacs as captain.

I can't help thinking this "the captain is not main character" schtick is missing the point a little. If a trek series works, surely it must be ensemble driven - it can't be a main character vehicle.

If they just want to make clear that they aren't going to screw this up in the exact way they screwed up the one with Dr Sam Beckett then ok I guess.

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Reply #93 on: May 18, 2017, 05:58:51 AM

New trailer out.  Embedded in an article that points out all the reasons for my feelings of "Meh."

https://arstechnica.com/the-multiverse/2017/05/first-star-trek-discovery-trailer-goes-where-many-treks-have-gone-before/

Pros:
Michelle Yeoh

Cons:
Redesigned Klingons
"My species is biologically determined ..."
Still CBS on demand service exclusive

The rest of it is Star Trek-ish stuff.  Trailer looks stylistically more nu-Trek, but we'll see how it shakes out, I guess.

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Reply #94 on: May 18, 2017, 06:04:28 AM

If that's the Klingons, wtf guys.

Prequel = bad. Why do that? So that they don't have to figure out which continuity it is? If they're doing yet *another* look for the Klingons, it's neither, so stop fucking around and just do a completely new series set well after TNG and then do nothing to refer back to any continuity. Put the ship way the fuck out beyond any Federation space, but on purpose this time and then take that premise seriously.

a species that can sense death. great, another premise that they'll have to constantly ignore whenever it's plot-inconvenient, just like Counselor Troi being unable to get a read on emotions any time that would fuck the plot.
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Reply #95 on: May 18, 2017, 08:32:38 AM

Yeah, safe to say I was unimpressed by this trailer and not inspired to spend money on a streaming service I would likely only use for this show.

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Reply #96 on: May 18, 2017, 08:39:44 AM

Wait.. they're prequels and in the same timeline as TOS.. wtf?  swamp poop

Now add-in the engineered species who can 'sense death' and therefore makes 0% reason not to have onboard every Federation ship ever.

This isn't a series. This is a series of Fan Wank and "wouldn't it be cool if" thrown against a whiteboard to push on a market.

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Reply #97 on: May 18, 2017, 10:17:58 AM

Don't know if anybody has mentioned it yet, but Prelude to Axanar looks tons better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1W1_8IV8uhA&t=601s

The lead ship, the Ares, looks a bit like the lead ship id Discovery

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Reply #98 on: May 18, 2017, 10:38:13 AM

That was awesome. Better than most Trek movies.
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Reply #99 on: May 19, 2017, 10:33:17 AM

Not sure if this is the same trailer since the one previously linked is dead, but this seems to indicate an eventual arrival on Netflix.

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Reply #100 on: May 20, 2017, 01:23:40 AM

I think it'll be on Netflix in the UK, but CBS VOD in the US.

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Reply #101 on: May 20, 2017, 02:48:11 AM

I think it'll be on Netflix in the UK, but CBS VOD in the US.
Yes - that is my understanding...   I hope we start to see these VOD services strt to consolidate.

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Reply #102 on: May 20, 2017, 08:58:44 AM

So they've changed captains like 3 times now?  And Isaacs is out?  (Yeoh is in)
Also, this is clearly the Prime/Kelvin timeline.  This is Abrams' world, where the Klingons are rabid animals basically.  The stardate of Discovery is the most disappointing aspect imo.  10yrs before TOS?Huh  Why?  So they can be at war with the Klingons?  Clearly there will be very little peaceful exploration and storytelling.  I'd go as far to say as they may have dumped the episodic model altogether and went serial (maybe that's why the original director left).

Also Obi (probably their best actor after Yeoh), will now just be a bit part antagonist since he is an evil dark Klingon.  So lame.

And dunno where they dug up that 1st officer, but she was horrible.  Basically came across like a girl from the Bronx larping a half-Vulcan.   I pretty much hated every aspect of this trailer except the ship bursting through the clouds.

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Reply #103 on: May 20, 2017, 10:42:39 AM

And dunno where they dug up that 1st officer, but she was horrible.  Basically came across like a girl from the Bronx larping a half-Vulcan. 

She was Sasha on the Walking Dead. And she's the main character in this series.  swamp poop

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Reply #104 on: May 20, 2017, 10:20:37 PM

Space people doing pew pew and space-like things out in space.  Good enough for me.

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