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Reply #105 on: July 14, 2015, 09:28:12 AM

Yeah, I'm still not feeling it.

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Reply #106 on: July 14, 2015, 10:36:15 AM

I don't absolutely hate everything about it but it's not grabbing me either.
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Reply #107 on: July 14, 2015, 11:05:34 AM

Nope.  Just wrong.

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Reply #108 on: July 14, 2015, 11:23:32 AM

Soo, Doom is from another universe?   Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #109 on: July 14, 2015, 11:29:47 AM

I get the feeling there will be 5 initial interdimensional explorers, one of whom will be lost while the other 4 will return with special powers. The 5th will be Victor Von Doom and time will work differently in the other dimension, so when he comes back he's spent decades there and gotten his shit all strunk and is a bit pissed.

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Reply #110 on: July 14, 2015, 11:30:25 AM

Is there a term movies that highly focused on photogenic 20ish folks for no reason but they are young and photogenic? Because it looks like this FF is exactly that.

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Reply #111 on: July 14, 2015, 11:35:59 AM

Is there a term movies that highly focused on photogenic 20ish folks for no reason but they are young and photogenic? Because it looks like this FF is exactly that.

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Reply #112 on: July 14, 2015, 11:36:16 AM

Is there a term movies that highly focused on photogenic 20ish folks for no reason but they are young and photogenic? Because it looks like this FF is exactly that.

See Trippy's reply a page back.

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Reply #113 on: July 14, 2015, 11:41:24 AM

I get the feeling there will be 5 initial interdimensional explorers, one of whom will be lost while the other 4 will return with special powers. The 5th will be Victor Von Doom and time will work differently in the other dimension, so when he comes back he's spent decades there and gotten his shit all strunk and is a bit pissed.

From the shot of the dimensional travel device thing, there are only 4 slots. 
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Reply #114 on: July 14, 2015, 12:00:31 PM

Photogenic ?  Reed is ugly as fuck and has some shit all over his face for the trailer and Mara is just NOT Sue.  She's really, really not.

Fuck sake.

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Reply #115 on: July 14, 2015, 12:08:48 PM

And Thing looks like Fried Chicken Man.

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Reply #116 on: July 14, 2015, 12:12:36 PM

And Thing looks like Fried Chicken Man.

Thing's got no... thing either.  Alicia Masters would be sad.
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Reply #117 on: July 14, 2015, 12:45:52 PM

UGH. Weeping now. Not exactly surprised, but still... weeping.


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Reply #118 on: July 14, 2015, 12:58:39 PM

From the shot of the dimensional travel device thing, there are only 4 slots. 


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Reply #119 on: July 14, 2015, 01:17:36 PM

A lot of this tracks pretty close to Ultimate Fantastic Four, so I wouldn't be surprised if Doom is a smart-as-Reed guy who is working at Dr. Storm's lab who sneaks in at night to use the interdimensional travel dingus when nobody's looking, maybe because he's pissed that Reed gets all the attention.

The Thing having no thing is sort of close to some long-standing speculation about the regular Marvel character, and why he's as bitter as he is about his transformation, especially early on. A lot of people think that's what inspired Paul Chadwick's character Concrete--a sort of "what if we took more seriously what it would mean to be turned into an alien rock man with no penis" premise.

Though the regular Marvel version of the Thing does eat and he does crap--he's been drawn sitting on the crapper now and again.
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Reply #120 on: July 14, 2015, 01:21:28 PM

Yeah, the kid scene and machine is stolen directly from Ultimate 4.

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Reply #121 on: July 14, 2015, 01:56:14 PM

If we stop watching these bad movies, especially in theaters, then the license will revert to someone that cares about the characters.

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Reply #122 on: July 14, 2015, 03:46:43 PM

You know what would have been a nice twist?  Doom follows the Four in a rescue mission because he's a nice guy who cares about his co-workers but gets stuck/zapped himself.  The injuries drive him a bit mad.  He's still not completely evil, but does get deluded into thinking his methods help everyone, then it just escalates as supers oppose him.  That would be a sympathetic villain that might be interesting.

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Reply #123 on: July 14, 2015, 04:55:25 PM

He's always most interesting when he's just this side of sympathetic. The Byrne story where it's just plausible that he's a better ruler for Latveria than any other contender is a good example. Or frankly the current Secret Wars stuff, where Dr. Strange has had to concede that Doom is actually pretty good at being a god who is defending the very last of reality against its enemies.
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Reply #124 on: July 15, 2015, 03:52:12 AM

Yeah as a villain Doom works best as a super competent Dick Cheney or a Mark Millar Reed Richards. Which is kind of a problem with the Mark Millar Reed Richards.

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Reply #125 on: July 15, 2015, 09:33:59 AM

The Mark Millar Reed Richards has a WHOLE host of problems much more major than the one you list.  why so serious?

The last great Doom portrayal was Mark Waid's, in which Doom trades in the metal armor for some magical armor and goes whole hog on selling his soul to the devil to save his mother's soul from eternal damnation. Then Millar comes along and ignores all of it.

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Reply #126 on: July 15, 2015, 11:09:23 AM

The Mark Millar Reed Richards has a WHOLE host of problems much more major than the one you list.  why so serious?

The last great Doom portrayal was Mark Waid's, in which Doom trades in the metal armor for some magical armor and goes whole hog on selling his soul to the devil to save his mother's soul from eternal damnation. Then Millar comes along and ignores all of it.

I hated the visual redesign of the armor in that, though. And it left the character in a kind of broken state, so I'm not surprised that later writers (including but not exclusively Millar) just ignored the story.
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Reply #127 on: July 15, 2015, 02:50:05 PM

It wasn't that they ignored the story that bothered me, it's that they ignored all the consequences of it. He went from "I'm all about the magic!" to "I'm the same old Doom you knew before and we're just going to handwave away what was the last good motivation I've had in a decade." It was a reset to a status quo without really any purpose other than "this writer wanted to use old Doom and not THAT Doom." Of course, I also dug the visual tweak to the armor in that story as well.

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Reply #128 on: July 15, 2015, 03:30:46 PM

It's okay guys! Individually this movie may appear stupid, but if we all work as a team and combine our snark...

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Reply #129 on: July 15, 2015, 06:40:09 PM

#squadgoals

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #130 on: July 16, 2015, 01:38:50 AM

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It's okay guys! Individually this movie may appear stupid, but if we all work as a team and combine our snark...

Let our snark combine!

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Reply #131 on: July 16, 2015, 02:24:55 AM

It wasn't that they ignored the story that bothered me, it's that they ignored all the consequences of it. He went from "I'm all about the magic!" to "I'm the same old Doom you knew before and we're just going to handwave away what was the last good motivation I've had in a decade."

I never read that storyline as a whole but just that part of it (all magic Doom) to me seems to contradict what Doom is (magic + science) and the one issue I did read made it feel that Doom implicitly conceded that Reed was the better scientist. That's an automatic fail for the entire story line in my book. And trying to free his mother isn't something new either.


At any rate if the movie had Annihilus or any other Negative Zone character as the main villain I would probably at  least pirate watch this, but you can't get Doom wrong and expect me to care about this movie.
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Reply #132 on: July 16, 2015, 09:34:20 AM

The opening to the storyline is totally worth it, though. Possibly the most villainous thing Doom has ever done, and wholly in line with his character.
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Reply #133 on: August 06, 2015, 09:19:37 AM

Rotten Tomatoes currently has this at 9% from critics. Compare that to Ant-Man's 80% (from critics) and the last Fantastic Four movie (the Silver Surfer one) at 37%.

This one has bomb written all over it. I'm still trying to decide whether I want to waste the money and time for it on the opening weekend of the Premier League.

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Reply #134 on: August 06, 2015, 09:27:26 AM

lol

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Reply #135 on: August 06, 2015, 10:01:42 AM

I'm still trying to decide whether I want to waste the money and time for it...
Why?  This is one you'd feel bad about pirating simple because you wasted the bandwidth.

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Reply #136 on: August 06, 2015, 10:02:43 AM

Soneone go watch it and tell us all about it!

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Reply #137 on: August 06, 2015, 10:27:07 AM

Rotten Tomatoes currently has this at 9% from critics. Compare that to Ant-Man's 80% (from critics) and the last Fantastic Four movie (the Silver Surfer one) at 37%.

This one has bomb written all over it. I'm still trying to decide whether I want to waste the money and time for it on the opening weekend of the Premier League.

It takes a special level of sucktitude to be WORSE than the Silver Surfer movie.

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Reply #138 on: August 06, 2015, 11:21:47 AM

If this is real, then I really have no idea why any of you would go see this...


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Reply #139 on: August 06, 2015, 11:25:10 AM

It does seem like every time the Thing hits something or lands on it, shit explodes in the trailer. Maybe he's passing extradimensional gas?

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