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Reply #70 on: June 12, 2015, 11:05:32 PM

The show is weird from an accuracy standpoint from a number of angles. (Warning: nerdery ahead)

The basic premise of the show is totally fucked. This guy invents lossless compression that compresses 3x better than lossy compression and doesn't realize it - that by itself is completely implausible. How that is turned into a business, which is the central element of the show, then makes no sense. They keep talking about mobile suites and the cloud and having a website and such...the actual product here is the algorithm itself. You patent it and then license it to everyone. That's the business plan. You don't need the cloud, you don't need a mobile version or an app, you don't need servers or a website or customers. The customers are companies who license your tech. Which would be every company that does cloud storage, streaming anything, etc. The entire business itself makes no sense at all.

The business plan is this: hire a lawyer and patent the technique. Then everyone throws money at you.

Nucleus has the same problem. It's a compression algorithm, but it's also an operating system, a user interface design, etc? Wut? Compression is such a minor part of an OS. Most files on disk aren't compressed at all for a variety of reasons. The idea that a compression algorithm is the OS, or the main component of the OS, is complete nonsense.

The writers don't seem to really understand what either Nucleus or Pied Piper tech is supposed to do. They want the show to be about an app/website but that's not what a compression algorithm is.

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Reply #71 on: June 12, 2015, 11:10:13 PM

Sit down Poindexter.

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Reply #72 on: June 13, 2015, 12:59:42 AM

They want the show to be about an app/website but that's not what a compression algorithm is.

That's not what the show is about.

NERD.

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Reply #73 on: June 13, 2015, 01:41:23 AM

This stuff doesn't bother me. I notice it but it doesn't detract from my enjoyment. I don't consider these "plot holes" or anything, just observations.

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Reply #74 on: June 13, 2015, 11:22:16 AM

I mean, if they had a realistic app that would make money then it would probably either 1) been invented already and people would go "but that already exisits" or 2) the writer that came up with the idea would have quit the show and hit up some silicon valley VCs to make the app instead of the show (the people on this show have huge ties to the real silicon valley figures).

So if that's the only accuracy concern you have then I think the show is doing pretty well.
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Reply #75 on: June 14, 2015, 10:38:35 PM

Great finale. I think this may be my favorite show right now.

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Reply #76 on: June 15, 2015, 08:51:04 AM

Great finale. I think this may be my favorite show right now.

I love the show, but the finale was oddly dissatisfying for me.

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Reply #77 on: June 15, 2015, 08:58:32 AM

Great finale. I think this may be my favorite show right now.

I love the show, but the finale was oddly dissatisfying for me.

Yeah I'm going with this. Just felt a little too serious for me.

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Reply #78 on: June 15, 2015, 09:10:41 AM

I was thinking the exact same thing until Bachman said "But what about me?"
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Reply #79 on: June 15, 2015, 07:41:14 PM

Pretty much that.

Bachman sort of redeemed himself in the middle when he pulled in and got to work to help keep the stream live then went back to the old reliable with those last words.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #80 on: June 15, 2015, 08:09:03 PM

Gilfoyle and Jared are by far my favorite characters, but Bachman has - in terms of moments - the best on the show.

Jared is a fucking masterstroke of a character though. God, so good.
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Reply #81 on: June 16, 2015, 06:19:19 AM

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Reply #82 on: June 16, 2015, 10:18:06 AM

Pretty much that.

Bachman sort of redeemed himself in the middle when he pulled in and got to work to help keep the stream live then went back to the old reliable with those last words.

I did enjoy him donning his wrist guards to help with the coding.

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Reply #83 on: June 16, 2015, 06:26:33 PM

Gilfoyle and Jared are by far my favorite characters, but Bachman has - in terms of moments - the best on the show.

Jared is a fucking masterstroke of a character though. God, so good.

This guy fucks.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #84 on: June 16, 2015, 11:32:03 PM

The lead is probably the worst character. I guess in part because he's the straight man most of the time and because he's also clueless and whiny and has to do a lot of plot-relevant stuff instead of riff.

Season finale was ok. It was a little silly how easily they lost control of the board. I get the sense that they need them to be the underdogs so they keep erecting more obstacles but it feels a little forced how often they jump out of one scrape just to get into another immediately. 

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Reply #85 on: June 17, 2015, 12:48:09 AM

Season finale was ok. It was a little silly how easily they lost control of the board. I get the sense that they need them to be the underdogs so they keep erecting more obstacles but it feels a little forced how often they jump out of one scrape just to get into another immediately.  

Your lack of experience with small startups (or hell, even obnoxiously monolithic ones) is noted.
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Reply #86 on: June 17, 2015, 01:11:27 AM

That ousting of the CEO was the most realistic thing in the entire series, these things happen all the time once investors swoop up a start-up.

Also, there is a good chance the money guys don't care if the former CEO is a genius, the disregard money guys have for tech guys is legendary. They can think they will just need another tech guy or that tech thing is done and now its time to reap the rewards.

Not that this will necessarily happen, but both these scenarios are realistic and happened multiple times in Real Life.
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Reply #87 on: June 17, 2015, 01:37:47 AM

I haven't seen the last one yet - just caught the Condor Cam one with the deposition but I have a question :

Do we find out what happened to the competition with the Porn Contract ?  Because surely they're the biggest threat out there right now ?

I mean, I get that we're working towards successful resolution with Hooli leasing the tech for Nucleus, but I find it hard to imagine those other guys are going away...

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Reply #88 on: June 17, 2015, 01:54:09 AM

Do we find out what happened to the competition with the Porn Contract ?  Because surely they're the biggest threat out there right now ?

Are you trying to say there isn't a bow on that story? They deleted years worth of porn. They did not get the job.

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I mean, I get that we're working towards successful resolution with Hooli leasing the tech for Nucleus, but I find it hard to imagine those other guys are going away...

you've literally missed one 45 minute episode

stop asking questions and just get on hbo go
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Reply #89 on: June 17, 2015, 01:55:17 AM

No, mate, you misread.  Not the compression competition, their competitors.  As in, the guys who clearly WON that contest....

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Reply #90 on: June 17, 2015, 01:56:03 AM

Oh:

No, we don't find out. Because they couldn't scale. So I don't think it matters. I don't think they're a threat.

Middle out, whatnot.
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Reply #91 on: June 17, 2015, 09:25:36 PM

Not that this will necessarily happen, but both these scenarios are realistic and happened multiple times in Real Life.

A startup almost always starts with the founder as CEO and that almost never lasts. That part is fine.

However a startup would never set up such that after one round of funding investors had 3 votes (and one investor only put in 50k!) and they had 1. Which was the plan before they randomly gave Bachman a board vote.

Even if the CEO is a total idiot surely Jared would know enough business basics to point this out, as would any Google search.

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Reply #92 on: June 17, 2015, 09:31:36 PM

Well, their funding cratered so they didn't have a ton of options or much of a bargaining position.

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Reply #93 on: June 18, 2015, 04:35:29 AM

While I think we are nitpicking about realism for a comedy show, I read all the times about startups who don't know any better making terrible choices when they take on investment.  Inexperienced people always do a shitty job at this stuff, and companies looking to invest and/or acquire you are out to take advantage of that to maximize the quality of their investment for the smallest amount of cost to them.
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Reply #94 on: June 18, 2015, 05:01:31 AM

Compared to the delete key thing, the business mistakes are 100% believable.

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Reply #96 on: June 25, 2015, 04:30:03 AM

Brilliant Finale.  Loved it.

That's been two seasons of excellence.

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Reply #97 on: April 27, 2016, 12:26:51 PM

Bumping for S3. Ep 1 was great. I love Toblowsky. I hope he sticks around.

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Reply #98 on: April 27, 2016, 02:09:45 PM

Avi-AT-to

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

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Reply #99 on: April 27, 2016, 02:37:05 PM

And Bambot.

Season 3 started as excellent as Season 2 ended.
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Reply #100 on: April 27, 2016, 07:28:21 PM

Ahhh you were suppose to bump it before ep1 started!!

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Reply #101 on: April 27, 2016, 08:08:45 PM

It's immediately after GOT and the seasons are the same length.  awesome, for real

The CEO totally played Richard. It was eerie seeing it played out so well.

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Reply #102 on: April 27, 2016, 08:35:27 PM

The previews for the next episode look eerily like my last days at NHL.com where the actual content creators and coders were outnumbered two to one by marketing droids.

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #103 on: May 01, 2016, 10:34:27 PM

The previews for the next episode look eerily like my last days at NHL.com where the actual content creators and coders were outnumbered two to one by marketing droids.

You are prescient dude.

Also, "natural cover."

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Reply #104 on: May 02, 2016, 06:49:45 AM

This show is painfully, PAINFULLY real.

"The product is the stock price!"

CEOs who care about marketing talent, not technical talent.

Abusing the fuck out of workers who know they're being laid-off before they're let-go.

Yet somehow it's still a comedy. Maybe in the Shakespearean sense of "comedy."

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