Fallout 4 Post-Release Bullshit

[Ginaz]

In the previous ones using a console command would disable achivements for that session, but if you save, quit out and come back in the achievements are back on. Not sure if FO4 is the same.

I've been abusing the fuck out the console cheats and still get the achievements.

[Trippy]

@Trippy What's the console command?

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[Merusk]

In the previous ones using a console command would disable achivements for that session, but if you save, quit out and come back in the achievements are back on. Not sure if FO4 is the same.

It's not the same. I did addxp to play with perks and it tagged me with the "hit level <x>" achieves for 25 & 50. It also tagged me for freeing the Castle when I decided to use that to test my newfound perktitude.

Restoring the savegame where I didn't mess with it, I was able to get a few more achieves last night.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Merusk/stats/377160/achievements/

[jakonovski]

How cool is this, Codsworth recognizes a fuckload of faces I mean names.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d04tWXLXuNc&feature=youtu.be&t=45s

[K9]

I'm about 10-12 hours or so in and having a blast. I have only met about three traders and only one had anything I wanted to buy; do they get more important later? Other than adhesive I'm not really short on anything.

Also, Blowflies and those Bloodbugs seem to be the toughest enemies in the game relative to their level and size. Super mutants go down a lot easier.

[Flood]

I'm so very tempted to buy this but I'm worried my rig won't run it very well.  You guys and your posts, what with the fun being had and all, is just goading me.  I was planning on entirely new guts for my computer by the end of the year but was hoping Cyber Monday might bring some good deals before I start pickin' parts.

Back to Divinity: EE and Heroes Charge for now 

[rk47]

I'm so very tempted to buy this but I'm worried my rig won't run it very well.  You guys and your posts, what with the fun being had and all, is just goading me.  I was planning on entirely new guts for my computer by the end of the year but was hoping Cyber Monday might bring some good deals before I start pickin' parts.

Back to Divinity: EE and Heroes Charge for now 

wait next year till loverslab mods are out 

[Ragnoros]

I just took a mandated online school training for as risk students that had a greater amount of compelling dialog trees packed into 45 minutes than I got out of Fallout 4 in 30+ hours.

[Sky]

Unlike the engrossing dialog trees in all the other great works of video game fiction.

[brellium]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC9yXH1FlmM&list=PLC67656DBFAAD09C4
Bethesda could never pack in a 30 minute dialog.

[rk47]

It's useless to expect KFC to serve nothing but KFC. And when they serve you a burger it's just chicken with bread.



 

[Falconeer]

Personally if Bethesda games had Bioware narrative style I'd be on the moon in happiness. And yet, someone would complain that there's too much words and drama and oh my god just let me play and roam and scavenge and it's badly written and who cares about this shit blah blah.

Fallout 3, 4, NV, and Skyrim could have ZERO NPCs and ZERO lines of dialogue and would still be up there for Game Of The Year any year they come out. Tired of the formula? No. Ask me again in 2025.

[Jeff Kelly]

I don't really agree with the Bioware praise.

Mass Effect for example has lots and lots of great dialogue and a few very memorable characters. It's also the game where Shepard's tendency to pursue sexual relationships with under-age girls (it's really OK, though, because they 'love' each other) or his/her tendency to faternise with subordinates would lead to a court martial and dishonorable discharge and possibly a sentence for statutory rape if it happened on a real military vessel.

When they hit the mark it's usually great but their writing is all over the place really, even in marquee franchises like Mass Effect, Dragon Age or Knights of the Old Republic. You can get set pieces like the first conversation with Sovereign which is probably one of the best pieces of fiction writing in games yet. When they miss the mark you get 'to catch a predator' levels of unintentional creepiness though and a general tone and story arc that would land you in a mental institution and not in the role of ambassador for Earth and commander of Earth's most valuable space ship.

Their forté is writing believable dialogue and crafting interesting charcters and interpersonal relationships and they have a knack for individual set pieces. They are shit at writing believable romances or romantic relationships and their story writing and narratives arcs for their games are full of tropes and usually even more basic and forgetable than bargain bin fiction.

[Fabricated]

Bethesda hasn't ever really been known for engrossing dialog so I went in expecting a relatively mediocre story where you somehow become the most important guy in the world 2 seconds after setting foot outside your vault. That's pretty much what I've gotten so far.

[Malakili]

Video game stories are with extremely rare exceptions total garbage and one of the reasons I've tended to like the Bethesda RPGs more than the Bioware RPGs is that essentially allow me to ignore the story and do whatever I want.

[Rasix]

Yah.  I imagine the first time I go to Diamond City will be because I've just wandered there instead of actually continuing the main plot.

I'm having a lot of fun with this game, jank and all. I don't think I'll ever get used to the interface.  I constantly hit wrong keys.

Last night I shotgunned a raider in the face and blew it about a mile into the air.  I hope they never fix that.

[Rendakor]

I'm with Jeff in that I don't get the love for Bioware. They follow their own formula too tightly so all their stories seem identical.

[Threash]

I love the way ghouls and synths fall apart as they take damage, and how it changes their combat strategy.

[Tmon]

I love the way ghouls and synths fall apart as they take damage, and how it changes their combat strategy.

I hate ghouls, I've gotten better at noticing the sounds they make before they reanimate but they still make me lose all trigger discipline when they do.  Speaking of sounds, this is the first game I've played in years that I haven't disabled the sound on.  Diamond City Radio is entertaining if repetitive and the ambient sounds actually provide useful information.

[satael]

Room with 4 enemies that haven't noticed you yet;  target each of them for a blitz sneak attack with a melee weapon and then watch the carnage unfold in VATS slowmotion. 

[Sky]

Yah.  I imagine the first time I go to Diamond City will be because I've just wandered there instead of actually continuing the main plot.

I'm having a lot of fun with this game, jank and all. I don't think I'll ever get used to the interface.  I constantly hit wrong keys.

Last night I shotgunned a raider in the face and blew it about a mile into the air.  I hope they never fix that.

I just got to Diamond City last night. Piper's voice actress is rather nice.

My favorite ragdoll moment so far was on top of a building I had just cleared of raiders. There were a couple more on the roof, so as I exit to the roof I head ye olde chatter of gunfire. Sneak over and they're engaged in a firefight with the grenade-throwingest batch of super mutants ever. Raiders flying in every direction multiple times until they finally flew cartwheeling off the roof for food. Funny stuff.

That is...until a super mutant saw me and I joined them...

[Fabricated]

Oh yeah, at least for now, you can use HTML tags when you rename items in Fallout 4.

[rattran]

The USS Constitution was pretty amazing/amusing. I'm hoping for more things just as complicated and ridiculous.

[Threash]

The USS Constitution was pretty amazing/amusing. I'm hoping for more things just as complicated and ridiculous.

The end of that quest was so freaking rewarding, and i'm not talking about the actual reward.  I loved the robots walking around talking about defending the constitution, then the last quest goal pops up as "defend the constitution".

[Sky]

Found my first annoying bug...Piper keeps falling off shit and breaking her leg. Fire escapes, buildings, cliffs, overpasses. Then she won't move, if I zone she sits at the loading spot to the new zone, haven't tried fast travel yet. Can't apply stims directly like when dogbreath was crippled and giving her a stack of stims didn't help.

Weird.

edit: well, here's a workaround. Shoot her until she goes down and you can apply a stim to get her walking again. Felt good, too.

[Threash]

Had my first annoying bug earlier tonight also, one of the dead drops for the railroad quests simply did not spawn.  I had to fix it using the console and that handy list of item id codes someone posted earlier, thanks!

[Merusk]

Found my first annoying bug...Piper keeps falling off shit and breaking her leg. Fire escapes, buildings, cliffs, overpasses. Then she won't move, if I zone she sits at the loading spot to the new zone, haven't tried fast travel yet. Can't apply stims directly like when dogbreath was crippled and giving her a stack of stims didn't help.

Weird.

edit: well, here's a workaround. Shoot her until she goes down and you can apply a stim to get her walking again. Felt good, too.

I had this problem, too. I just make her walk around in power armor now so there's no falling damage. However, a super-mutant did manage to down her while we were at the satellite array so she was stuck there a while. I had to quit and reload to fix her, so it's good to know about the "shoot her down" trick.

Had my first annoying bug earlier tonight also, one of the dead drops for the railroad quests simply did not spawn.  I had to fix it using the console and that handy list of item id codes someone posted earlier, thanks!

Yer Welcome!

[rattran]

The USS Constitution was pretty amazing/amusing. I'm hoping for more things just as complicated and ridiculous.

The end of that quest was so freaking rewarding, and i'm not talking about the actual reward.  I loved the robots walking around talking about defending the constitution, then the last quest goal pops up as "defend the constitution".

That's not the end,

[Surlyboi]

I just got to Diamond City last night. Piper's voice actress is rather nice.

Courtney Ford is hot. And if she breathlessly says, "That's a lot of metal" when I suit up in my power armor again...

That said, all the shit I've found wandering the wasteland makes me not want to finish the main story for fear of missing out on something.

[Quinton]

I've found a lot of the little side-quests and one-off things far more engaging than the main story.  The environmental storytelling with terminal notes or paper scraps or holotapes to fill in some details is pretty awesome in a lot of places.

A favorite area I ran into (underneath a ho-hum clear-some-raiders-out mission) was The Dunwich Borers which was an nifty, creepy Lovecraftian thing.

[apocrypha]

Discovered this morning that if you have junk items in your inventory and open the Pip-Boy you can press C (or some weird symbol button or whatever on a console) to enter Component View which lets you tag or un-tag components individually. Very handy when you have Scrapper 2 which highlights things that break down into tagged components in the world. Tag all components and everything lootable is highlighted!

[Ironwood]

I've found a lot of the little side-quests and one-off things far more engaging than the main story.  The environmental storytelling with terminal notes or paper scraps or holotapes to fill in some details is pretty awesome in a lot of places.

A favorite area I ran into (underneath a ho-hum clear-some-raiders-out mission) was The Dunwich Borers which was an nifty, creepy Lovecraftian thing.

Now that's interesting.  As I was reading your first line, I was going to post about the Dunwich building I just went through in Fallout3 and mention that they've always done this.  Then you hit me with the second line.  Someone there really likes the Lovecraft.

Just a shame you couldn't do more with Jaime in that one.

[Malakili]

I'm still not too far into the game, just about 10 hours played. I just met Paladin Danse.

Here I am:

[Yegolev]

I can't decide what to wear.  After the last "oh shit this house is full of feral ghouls" I'm opting for more defense.  I was wearing the power suit everywhere until I noticed that it uses fuel just to stand around and I haven't learned where to get more.

[Khaldun]

I really wish you could layer the legendary armor add-ons over the Silver Shroud outfit. I like wearing the Silver Shroud--I'm trying to do stealth/sniper most of the time--but it's hard to give up the great bonuses of some of those add-ons, so I keep going back to wearing my vault suit plus the add-on stuff.