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Reply #385 on: November 12, 2015, 07:06:57 AM

Why do any of you care whether he likes it or not? Or what his reasons are? The world would be a dull place if we all liked the same things. And if he wants to have a whinge about it here, well, it's a forum, which means different viewpoints should be aired. *shrug* Doesn't affect my enjoyment of the game one iota. smiley

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Reply #386 on: November 12, 2015, 07:15:43 AM

I just requested my first steam refund.

Translation: "Hey guys, now you can't say I didn't at least play the game before declaring it crap.  I can now confidently say that after less than 2 hours in, which would mostly involve the intro scenes and maybe the first leg of the main quest, that Fallout 4 is every bit as bad as thought it would be!". Ohhhhh, I see.
I was 16 hours into the game, so no I did not get the refund, they did however refund the Season Pass.

I was looking for Fallout RPG, not some action game packaged in the Fallout universe in a bland environment with uninspiring characters.

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Reply #387 on: November 12, 2015, 07:24:00 AM

I was looking for Fallout RPG, not some action game packaged in the Fallout universe in a bland environment with uninspiring characters.

Get Wasteland 2.

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Reply #388 on: November 12, 2015, 12:18:35 PM

I've read up to this point in the thread, and after adjusting for F13-ness, this game sounds fantastic.
Old men yelling at clouds aside, yes. I was hesitant to buy at full price (yay GMG deal), but easily worth the money. Light RP as usual with Bethsoft, but great world building as usual with Bethsoft. I remember musing when Skyrim came out that it would be awesome if (pre-SWTOR) Bioware and Bethsoft could collab, letting Bethsoft build the world and Bioware handle the story and dialog. As it is, I REALLY hope there's an Obsidian version in the works.
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Reply #389 on: November 12, 2015, 01:17:29 PM

Let Obsidian handle the story and world building. Bioware the dialogue, character relationships and QA and Bethesda the rest. Sprinkle a little Kojima in there for the weird attention to detail and metaverse and you'll either end up with best game ever or the most weird and entertaining train wreck of all time.

Either way we win.
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Reply #390 on: November 12, 2015, 03:00:55 PM

It's a Fallout all right. The familiarity is very comforting if nothing else, and will be an excellent time waster.
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Reply #391 on: November 12, 2015, 04:43:23 PM

I was looking for Fallout RPG, not some action game packaged in the Fallout universe in a bland environment with uninspiring characters.
Are you completely unaware of Fallout 3?
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Reply #392 on: November 12, 2015, 06:19:09 PM

What is it with Bethesda and bad interfaces? I really don't get why I'm expected on default to use different keys to go into crafting and get out of crafting. It's like WTF.
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Reply #393 on: November 12, 2015, 06:23:42 PM

It's hard for me not to just put the game down and wait 6 months for mods to make it more playable. I didn't even hate Skyrim's vanilla UI as much as I hate this one; the inability to rebind ALL of the keys is so frustrating.

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Reply #394 on: November 12, 2015, 07:32:55 PM

It's hard for me not to just put the game down and wait 6 months for mods to make it more playable. I didn't even hate Skyrim's vanilla UI as much as I hate this one; the inability to rebind ALL of the keys is so frustrating.
Yes, because the mods will help the
        <yes>
<snarky><no>
        <son>
Dialog.

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Reply #395 on: November 12, 2015, 08:00:02 PM

If they sort it into
1. Yes
2. No
3. Snarky
4. Son
and list the complete sentences instead of just the one-word description, it would go a long way for me.

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Reply #396 on: November 12, 2015, 08:23:22 PM

Interrupting the bitchfest as a non player since I like this image from the char creator. Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly? Spoiler due to image size

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Reply #397 on: November 12, 2015, 08:34:59 PM

Some of the set pieces are great in this, Pickman's Gallery is the Lovecraftian bit I've found so far. I see now why people say avoid Boston Common, Swan was a bugger of a fight until I decided to just blow chems. I'm heavily addicted now, but have some swank armor.

The game makes up for the janky combat and craptastic UI with fun.
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Reply #398 on: November 13, 2015, 05:28:41 AM

While I love the soundtrack some songs come up in rotation FAR TOO GODDAMN OFTEN.

If I hear Anything Goes or Civilization again I'm going to vomit.  It doesn't help that some of them were on FO3's list so I already had them in my head.

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Reply #399 on: November 13, 2015, 05:37:30 AM

Yeah, so much of the soundtrack I'd already heard a ton of times in FO3 so I've taken to listening to the classical station in this one.
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Reply #400 on: November 13, 2015, 06:47:35 AM

"Bongo bongo bongo, I don't wanna leave the Congo".... bzzzt... changes radio station.

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Reply #401 on: November 13, 2015, 09:44:39 AM

It's Bethesda's Fallout all right. The familiarity is very comforting if nothing else, and will be an excellent time waster.


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Reply #402 on: November 13, 2015, 10:03:02 AM

I can't even remember those old timey Fallouts anymore.
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Reply #403 on: November 13, 2015, 10:12:31 AM

Found my first Legendary item yesterday, followed quickly by the 2nd.

How did I not hear about this system beforehand? It's awesome. Now I wish they had drop rates like D3.

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Reply #404 on: November 13, 2015, 10:17:59 AM

I've found a Legendary chest, (right?) leg armor, and a wrench. Also killed a Legendary wild mongrel.

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Reply #405 on: November 13, 2015, 11:05:50 AM

Putting together the legendary power armor chest at the polymer factory was a pretty cool side quest.

Probably because it took me a few trips to find all of the doorways and places to visit in the facility. Then, I mean, the computer tells you what to do but I had to check it a few times to make sure I had the right ingredients in place before it produced the item.

Good stuff.
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Reply #406 on: November 13, 2015, 11:33:19 AM

I've found two or three legendary pieces of leather armor, but it's ruined by that early find of cage armor that blows away anything but power armor so far. And I've barely explored the map (though I did clear the entire area NW of Concord).

Cage armor is really nice, I believe it's 22 physical/rad though I'm fuzzy on the secondary type. But it's a suit, so no piecemealing in legendaries or upgrading it in the workbench.
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Reply #407 on: November 13, 2015, 11:43:27 AM

This is my first Fallout game so it's all new to me.  I found the help screen to be surprisingly helpful.  I haven't spent much time on the story so far because I've been too busy dinking around with the settlement stuff and just wandering around checking stuff out.  I got my first legendary piece off a roach of all things.  It's not the most overwhelming piece of gear, but it does have what I assume is a nice anti poison score of 25.  The GUI is annoying but I've learned to work around it.  I do wish there was a way to highlight bodies, I've lost a few long range kills due to the difficulty of finding a brown body laying in a mass of brown bushes.  I haven't had any crashes, and the closest thing to bug I've found is that on my tablet the Pipboy app doesn't display the map when I switch to local mode.
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Reply #408 on: November 13, 2015, 12:51:03 PM

Anyone running this game on a PC close to minimum specs?

I have never played WoW.
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Reply #409 on: November 13, 2015, 01:05:50 PM

When I installed, it set quality to low by default based on my machine. Still runs fine. I have yet to mess with settings.

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Reply #410 on: November 13, 2015, 01:16:04 PM

Mine is almost exactly the minumum except I have 6gb or RAM instead of 8.  It set itself to low and runs fine, load times when I first start are pretty long, but otherwise it runs fine.  It looks good enough on low that I haven't tried tweaking anything.
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Reply #411 on: November 13, 2015, 01:43:24 PM

Load times on this are long on any machine. Fast Travel can take 20-30 seconds if there's a lot of new assets to load. I can't tell if it's disk access or that it's decaching all the information because it thinks its a console.

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Reply #412 on: November 13, 2015, 01:44:48 PM

Load times on this are long on any machine. Fast Travel can take 20-30 seconds if there's a lot of new assets to load. I can't tell if it's disk access or that it's decaching all the information because it thinks its a console.

Load times are pretty tolerable (~10s to load the overworld) for me, but I have the game installed on an SSD.

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Reply #413 on: November 13, 2015, 02:07:43 PM

Yeah I'm still on a physical disk. The SSD I bought keeps going to sleep and I have no idea why. I finally just took it out of the machine. I suspect that it's my MoBo going bad or that it just can't handle the Evo850 at all.

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Reply #414 on: November 13, 2015, 02:32:33 PM

Trying to manage more than one settlement is a pain in the ass and I fast traveled to one of them only to find its being attacked by super mutants. ACK!  Hopefully the defensive structures I put there will stop that.
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Reply #415 on: November 13, 2015, 06:37:48 PM

Poop socked my way through the game over the week. Over 30 hours played.

tl;dr It's Skyrim with guns. A big interesting world to play in; but the characters and stories really pale in comparison to the world they live in. Mostly, I just miss having actual decisions to make in my RPGs.

Rambling spoilers on main plot stuff follows.

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Reply #416 on: November 13, 2015, 07:54:52 PM


‎"One must see in every human being only that which is worthy of praise. When this is done, one can be a friend to the whole human race. If, however, we look at people from the standpoint of their faults, then being a friend to them is a formidable task."
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Reply #417 on: November 13, 2015, 09:53:24 PM

"Bongo bongo bongo, I don't wanna leave the Congo".... bzzzt... changes radio station.

But Butcher Pete part 2!

Tuned in, immediately get to watch cringey Ubisoft talking head offering her deepest sympathies to the families impacted by the Orlando shooting while flanked by a man in a giraffe suit and some sort of "horrifically garish neon costumes through the ages" exhibit or something.  We need to stop this fucking planet right now and sort some shit out. -Kail
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Reply #418 on: November 13, 2015, 10:35:15 PM

Laughing too hard at the Idiot Savant perk while having INT 1.
I literally blew past 4 levels from two quest turns-ins due to it triggering back to back.
And since Idiot Savant Mk II gives 5x EXP the quest EXP bar just kept filling and filling...  why so serious?

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Reply #419 on: November 14, 2015, 12:22:10 AM

Did I really just give this stupid game another try and start fresh, only to get hit with the tab bug?

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