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Reply #350 on: November 11, 2015, 06:17:22 AM

As I said, decisions made by morons.
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Reply #351 on: November 11, 2015, 06:30:50 AM

The interface inconsistency that's driving me batshit is weapon modding.  Specifically, to back out of a sub menu, it's TAB.  So when you're done modding, it's TAB, TAB, TAB, "are you sure you want to leave crafting?  press ENTER to leave, TAB to stay."  Would it have been that hard to let me hit TAB one more time to leave crafting?

Also, "V" is for VATS -- always.  Not "Q".  Fuck that noise.

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Reply #352 on: November 11, 2015, 06:35:49 AM

Seems like all of these problems are being experienced by the Master Race only.  White people problems, amirite?

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Reply #353 on: November 11, 2015, 06:51:11 AM

Thats why I'm not really that angry about it. Most of these things can be fixed (if need be by mods).

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Reply #354 on: November 11, 2015, 06:55:48 AM

Seems like all of these problems are being experienced by the Master Race only.  White people problems, amirite?

Yes, it's all irrelevant stuff in the face of a great game. Also, it's all things that are easy to work around or simply will go away in a few hours as soon as your muscle memory gets used to it. They are silly and moronic, whoever designed them is an imbecile and whoever approved them is a muppet, but who the hell cares dammit.

Also,

There doesn't seem to be an 'Asian' default character which is odd.

Uh? Yes there is.


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Reply #355 on: November 11, 2015, 07:14:08 AM

There doesn't seem to be an 'Asian' default character which is odd.

Uh? Yes there is.

Which one? Honest question.

They have characters with different shades of brown and black as skin color and the stereotypical ginger. The rest all look like white dudes to me, even the one with the black hair in a bun that looks like he regularly visits Anime conventions.

And no I'm not looking for the yellow skinned, straw hat and fu manchu beard wearing racist sterotype.
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Reply #356 on: November 11, 2015, 08:36:55 AM

Just took these for you. These are default faces, I haven't changed a single thing.



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Reply #357 on: November 11, 2015, 08:41:53 AM

Seems like all of these problems are being experienced by the Master Race only.  White people problems, amirite?

Heh.  While I'd much prefer to be playing this with M+KB, the menu stupidity drove me to hook up a 360 pad early on.

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Reply #358 on: November 11, 2015, 10:27:03 AM

Glad I took a couple days off for this. My only worry is that I'll level too fast scavenging and building, and end up in over my head in combat. Finally took a couple fighting perks (started high CHR/INT).
Random thoughts:

Level 12, I have four established settlements. Need two more levels to take the second tier Leader perk. I have five available companions already, so the game doesn't skimp there.

Got attacked by a swarm of named ghouls that I'm pretty sure were some type of Python reference. Took five tries to survive.

Wish I'd noticed the female protagonist is voiced by the actress who voiced Jack in Mass Effect. I'd have tried replicating her. Guess I still could once I find the plastic surgeon.

The possibilities with the town building are crazy. I established a settlement in an area with some "out of reach" terrain. Decided I wanted to know if they bothered putting things to find in spots you shouldn't be able to get to. They did.
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Reply #359 on: November 11, 2015, 10:35:10 AM

Just took these for you. These are default faces, I haven't changed a single thing.



Not East Asian (which I'm assuming Jeff meant and not, say, Indian) though the women are somewhat closer than the men.
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Reply #360 on: November 11, 2015, 11:59:35 AM

Spoiler those damn pics. Geez.

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Reply #361 on: November 11, 2015, 12:57:44 PM

They even replaced the dialogs with up/down/left/right choices, and then the dialogs are crap since they need to all fall into this format of question/yes/snarky/no.

Surprised there hasn't been more discontent about this decision here.

(Lack of proper dialogue annoys me, but I don't know how to complain about it without sounding like an RPGCodex hipster...)

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Reply #362 on: November 11, 2015, 01:16:32 PM

They even replaced the dialogs with up/down/left/right choices, and then the dialogs are crap since they need to all fall into this format of question/yes/snarky/no.

Surprised there hasn't been more discontent about this decision here.

(Lack of proper dialogue annoys me, but I don't know how to complain about it without sounding like an RPGCodex hipster...)

It's easily the thing that bothers me the most about the game.  On the plus side, I can just roleplay a character that refuses to talk to people.  Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #363 on: November 11, 2015, 01:17:37 PM

I actually don't mind it that much if it is consistent. Mass Effect did a pretty great job with a similar setup because the responses were codified and you always knew where the paragon/neutral/renegade answer was on the dialogue selection thing.

Fallout 4 not so much, though.

I haven't played a whole lot of it but I've already encountered a few instances of dialogue playing out in a whole different way than what I thought it would going by the little text snippet.

That's bad for an RPG.

I'd rather they'd kept the old style where you could read the whole sentence before deciding I what to say. The way it is now I'm always a little wary that what sounded innocent going by the little teaser will turn into a full on genocidal rant half way through.
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Reply #364 on: November 11, 2015, 01:31:46 PM

Just took these for you. These are default faces, I haven't changed a single thing.

I won't go into too much detail because no good will come of it and it will only make what I say sound accidentally racist at some point.

I wouldn't have thought that those four choices are intended to resemble people of Asian descent (I can already see me ending up with my foot firmly in my mouth at some point during this  why so serious?). Except maybe the first of the two women. It's just so unspecific and only slightly ethnic compared to the other more stereotypical defaults.
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Reply #365 on: November 11, 2015, 02:08:40 PM

Updating title.
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Reply #366 on: November 11, 2015, 02:13:58 PM

No you are correct. Just adding epicanthic fold eyes to caucasoid faces does not make the face East Asian unless you squint.
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Reply #367 on: November 11, 2015, 02:49:16 PM

The Scrapper perk gains you more and rarer components from reclaiming things (notably screws from pipeguns, copper from tubes, etc).
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Reply #368 on: November 11, 2015, 02:52:46 PM

I'm no graphics fetishist but those screens reminded me of just how bad hair is still. I'd wish they get that right at some point preferably with an algorithm that doesn't bring a Titan to its knees like TressFX does.
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Reply #369 on: November 11, 2015, 02:55:12 PM

Updating title.


Awww, I thought we'd get a new thread that told us whether the game was any good or not.

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Reply #370 on: November 11, 2015, 03:04:08 PM

Updating title.


Awww, I thought we'd get a new thread that told us whether the game was any good or not.


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Reply #371 on: November 11, 2015, 03:29:23 PM

Updating title.


Awww, I thought we'd get a new thread that told us whether the game was any good or not.


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Reply #372 on: November 11, 2015, 07:48:28 PM

I just requested my first steam refund.

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Reply #373 on: November 11, 2015, 09:06:38 PM

Fucking molotov cocktails 

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Reply #374 on: November 11, 2015, 10:05:21 PM

I just requested my first steam refund.

Each to one's own. I'm 27 hours in to it and sleep deprived.

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Reply #375 on: November 11, 2015, 10:32:43 PM

Fucking molotov cocktails 
Worse when learning how to equip and throw them in the middle of a tense fight with bandits and dogs coming in from two directions and accidentally throwing against the railing of the balcony you're on. Mmm...toasty. My only death so far, though! I did train a mutant bear (yu-gi-oh, whatever) all the way through Concord and as far as the Red Rocket...so sure that was the end of me...
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Reply #376 on: November 11, 2015, 10:42:04 PM

I just requested my first steam refund.

Each to one's own. I'm 27 hours in to it and sleep deprived.

I'm shocked, shocked!, that Brellium doesn't like it.

I'm enjoying the hell out of it. I'll say one thing, it is the most stable Bethesda game I've ever played. Not one crash or graphics hiccup. If there's a memory leak I haven't noticed it. I'm almost 20 hours in. About 10 of that is crafting, about 8 is random wandering around and following up on quests I discover through just playing. The other 2 is actual main story content. I've only found 2 other companions besides the 2 the game more or less hands you but I quite like the one I've chosen to play with. (Piper.)

I have some minor gripes with little UI issues and I'm not sure I like that I'm that far into the game and still just laying armor on my Vault Suit but other than that it's been quite fun. I just pimped out a 10 mm pistol and it has become my go-to weapon. Once I get a suppressor on it I'll be even happier!


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Reply #377 on: November 11, 2015, 11:01:16 PM

Another set of handy tips here: https://www.reddit.com/r/fo4/comments/3shl9i/fallout_4_tips_everyone_should_know/ - contains a couple of minor character spoilers.


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Reply #378 on: November 12, 2015, 12:07:30 AM

Got a spiked dog collar, when putting it on Dogbreath I found he can equip some other things (which I had forgotten after killing a bandit dog wiith a bandana).

I gave him a spare pair of welder goggles to match mine. So pimp.

I'd like to play more with armor crafting and building a custom set from pieces...but the cage armor I found is just too good.
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Reply #379 on: November 12, 2015, 12:11:03 AM

Ohh... so when I've been wearing the bandana myself... eww.  swamp poop

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Reply #380 on: November 12, 2015, 12:14:36 AM

Ohh... so when I've been wearing the bandana myself... eww.  swamp poop
I will not confirm or deny whether my plan was to match bandanas with him. I think it goes in the collar slot, so spiked collar saves the day...
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Reply #381 on: November 12, 2015, 03:22:30 AM

After playing 7D2D I keep trying to loot tree stumps and pick up stones.

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Reply #382 on: November 12, 2015, 05:49:48 AM

I've read up to this point in the thread, and after adjusting for F13-ness, this game sounds fantastic.

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Reply #383 on: November 12, 2015, 06:42:29 AM

I've read up to this point in the thread, and after adjusting for F13-ness, this game sounds fantastic.

Sounds like it is more work than my job. Not my cup of tea, but I do love reading about it here.

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Reply #384 on: November 12, 2015, 06:52:42 AM

I just requested my first steam refund.

Translation: "Hey guys, now you can't say I didn't at least play the game before declaring it crap.  I can now confidently say that after less than 2 hours in, which would mostly involve the intro scenes and maybe the first leg of the main quest, that Fallout 4 is every bit as bad as thought it would be!". Ohhhhh, I see.
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