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Reply #105 on: November 13, 2013, 07:06:44 PM

I think there's some voice modulation BS going on with a lot of the mogu characters, or at the very least a lot of snarling.

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Reply #106 on: November 13, 2013, 07:11:27 PM

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Reply #107 on: November 13, 2013, 07:20:00 PM

Man, don't make it weird!  why so serious?

It gets weirder. He's also the voice of Mekgineer Thermaplugg, the last boss of Gnomergon.

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Reply #108 on: November 14, 2013, 02:39:17 PM

That was another boss I liked hearing yell at me angrily, at least!

And yeah, calapine, that omg girl dwarvesssss thing was a definite eye-roll trigger for me. Partly because what I saw of the female dwarf didn't actually excite me at all. My two lady dwarves are cuter. :P

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Reply #109 on: November 14, 2013, 02:45:17 PM

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Reply #110 on: November 14, 2013, 03:55:19 PM

Dude must have not really been playing for nine years, because in Vanilla, you HAD to have several Dwarf Priests in a raid because they were the only ones with fear ward.  We had at least 3 in our AQ/Naxx raid.

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Reply #111 on: November 14, 2013, 04:07:14 PM

No flying in Draenor until first major patch. Because walking is so much fun.  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #112 on: November 14, 2013, 04:09:13 PM

Dude must have not really been playing for nine years, because in Vanilla, you HAD to have several Dwarf Priests in a raid because they were the only ones with fear ward.  We had at least 3 in our AQ/Naxx raid.

His coulda all been dude dwarves, he's marveling over the lady ones.

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Reply #113 on: November 14, 2013, 04:13:55 PM

Wait, there are dwarves with BOOBS?!? 

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Reply #114 on: November 14, 2013, 04:18:22 PM


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Reply #115 on: November 14, 2013, 05:31:51 PM

No flying in Draenor until first major patch. Because walking is so much fun.  Ohhhhh, I see.

I'm not seeing a problem with this?

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Reply #116 on: November 14, 2013, 06:05:02 PM

No flying in Draenor until first major patch. Because walking is so much fun.  Ohhhhh, I see.

I'm not seeing a problem with this?

Me either.  Flying, while cool does not really add anything to the game other than quick travel times.  Flying in wow is not menaingful or even really that much fun, it's a pure convenience.

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Reply #117 on: November 14, 2013, 06:33:24 PM

I'm pretty sure that in Wrath, there was no flying until you could afford cold weather flying.  There may have been a quest line requirement as well to access the magical flying city where the trainer was.
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Reply #118 on: November 14, 2013, 06:37:56 PM

Stuff like that lets them control the quest flow, whether or not you approve of that is essentially a matter of taste.

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Reply #119 on: November 14, 2013, 06:48:55 PM

In all other expansions flying was enabled once you hit max level and had the cash to pay for it.  If they are saying they just aren't allowing any flying until the first major patch that is a huge change.  Most people will be max level in a couple weeks while the first major patch takes a few months.  Imagine walking from the current pandarian city to your farm or faction quest givers every day, that would be fucking horrible.

I'm all for forcing people to walk while they are levelling but after that you should be free as a bird, literally.
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Reply #120 on: November 14, 2013, 06:50:21 PM

Oh I see, I skimmed the post too quickly. Yeah that is pretty weird.

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Reply #121 on: November 14, 2013, 06:57:26 PM

I don't like that decision at all, but I think it's related to release. It says to me they won't have anything ready for flying, and they are going to patch it in later. Otherwise, why change from the proven formula of max level.

They really want to get this thing out the door if that's the case.

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Reply #122 on: November 14, 2013, 06:59:34 PM

In all other expansions flying was enabled once you hit max level and had the cash to pay for it.  If they are saying they just aren't allowing any flying until the first major patch that is a huge change.  Most people will be max level in a couple weeks while the first major patch takes a few months.  Imagine walking from the current pandarian city to your farm or faction quest givers every day, that would be fucking horrible.

I'm all for forcing people to walk while they are levelling but after that you should be free as a bird, literally.

This lets them make level cap content like Timeless Isle without having it subject to the same drawbacks that make flying crappy for leveling content. I'm trying to imagine what Timeless Isle would feel like with flying enabled, and the answer is "pretty awful". Once that level cap content isn't especially relevant anymore they enable flying. Makes sense.
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Reply #123 on: November 14, 2013, 07:16:05 PM

I have a decent handful of friends and acquaintances over at Blizzard these days and, while they're ruthlessly strict about not violating their NDAs, it's no secret that most every one of them feels flying mounts shouldn't have ever been created at all. The implications for PvP on PvP servers, the way it lets you skip content (I know the max level argument), coupled with the Timeless Isle situation mentioned above combine to make it not popular.

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Reply #124 on: November 14, 2013, 07:23:00 PM

I love flying.  I quit in Northern because I couldn't fly.  Eventually I came back, and still remember how cool it was flying into the last zone (one with the area were you joust) over the mountains.  I almost missed that cause they turned off flying.

Whenever I think about coming back I think about how much I hate having to walk again each patch and I lose any desire to return.

I love flying in these games.  Not my fault they can't figure out how to make it work.  Keep me on the ground in instances, let me fly in the world.

GW2 / RIFT really pissed me off with the, "try to guess if you can jump up here!  Giggle!" invisible wall, "guess what we're thinking! giggle!" fucking crap. Wow, getting hot just thinking about it.

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Reply #125 on: November 14, 2013, 07:45:20 PM

You're all pussies and cry babies. No flying is probably the best thing they can do for the game and getting that original feeling back.
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Reply #126 on: November 14, 2013, 08:19:29 PM

In all other expansions flying was enabled once you hit max level and had the cash to pay for it.  If they are saying they just aren't allowing any flying until the first major patch that is a huge change.  Most people will be max level in a couple weeks while the first major patch takes a few months.  Imagine walking from the current pandarian city to your farm or faction quest givers every day, that would be fucking horrible.

I'm all for forcing people to walk while they are levelling but after that you should be free as a bird, literally.

You could just take a taxi? I've seen no mention of them removing the flight masters or whatever they are. You should only have to walk it once.
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Reply #127 on: November 14, 2013, 08:44:37 PM

You're all pussies and cry babies. No flying is probably the best thing they can do for the game and getting that original feeling back.
And get rid of those Plane of Knowledge ports God damn it!  It should take you three hours to walk to Ocean of Tears and if the boat is broken meaning you can't get there at all then fuck you it just adds to the sense of accomplishment when you actually get there!
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Reply #128 on: November 14, 2013, 09:06:47 PM

Well, at least WoW didn't really ever try to kill you on the way to something.  So, there's that.  awesome, for real

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Reply #129 on: November 14, 2013, 09:11:51 PM

In all other expansions flying was enabled once you hit max level and had the cash to pay for it.  If they are saying they just aren't allowing any flying until the first major patch that is a huge change.  Most people will be max level in a couple weeks while the first major patch takes a few months.  Imagine walking from the current pandarian city to your farm or faction quest givers every day, that would be fucking horrible.

I'm all for forcing people to walk while they are levelling but after that you should be free as a bird, literally.

You could just take a taxi? I've seen no mention of them removing the flight masters or whatever they are. You should only have to walk it once.

Yeah  swamp poop no idea why people assume taxis are disappearing.

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Reply #130 on: November 14, 2013, 09:56:44 PM

You're not skipping content if you've already done it. If you don't want people flying until they get Loremaster in every quest zone on the new world? Fine, I'm willing to do that. But don't say it's about skipping content. The users will jump through hoops so they can get around the world faster, especially in a game that already instances and phases the crap out of the world anyway.

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Reply #131 on: November 14, 2013, 10:08:30 PM

Well they have recently expanded on their ideas for max level content, saying they want more than just daily quest hubs and actual questlines to be done at max level.  When you think on that, no flying makes more sense.

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Reply #132 on: November 14, 2013, 11:15:45 PM

Flying mounts are one of my favorite things about WoW. Having to hit max level is one thing, but waiting months until I can use the mounts I've farmed up/paid real money for is pretty shitty. And honestly after WoW, CoH and EQ2 it sucks playing a game where I can't "bypass content" and instead have to grind through tons of mobs that I don't actually need for my quests.

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Reply #133 on: November 15, 2013, 12:22:31 AM

As others have noted, there's being a cheerleader, and then there's ... that. It wraps around from being excited about a new expansion into a creepy sort of desperation that this expansion has just got to turn shit around, that new character models are exactly what was needed to right the ship, and MARK THIS DATE DOWN, EVERYONE, EVERYTHING HAS CHANGED FOREVER.

Any new expansion at this point is just going to be a small speed bump in the road of falling subs. There's realistically nothing they can do at this point to rejuvenate the game. The idea that an expansion that simplifies things while adding few new features is going to give WoW a huge shot in the arm is ridiculous. "The problem with WoW is that it's just too damn complicated!" said nobody.

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Reply #134 on: November 15, 2013, 02:17:41 AM

I'm betting the Zandalari trolls will do the time-travel thing with Garrosh and join up with him... because it isn't a real WOW expansion without a troll dungeon/raid, mon!

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Reply #135 on: November 15, 2013, 05:00:22 AM

I'm betting the Zandalari trolls will do the time-travel thing with Garrosh and join up with him... because it isn't a real WOW expansion without a troll dungeon/raid, mon!
Well, to be fair, it is a pretty safe bet that we have not seen the last of the Zandalari on Azeroth.  I mean, no player character has ever actually seen Zul, and since this guy is supposed to be about as powerful a prophet as Velen, I really doubt we have seen the last of him.  My personal pet theory is that Zul is still out there with a fleet of Zandalari War Boats tied together like a giant raft-city waiting for his next prophetic vision of how to save his people.  We also can't really say for certain if the ruins of Zandalar might still be kicking around somewhere with Rastakhan still clinging to his golden throne along with whoever stayed with him (His actions in that Lorewalker story time session seem a bit odd, so there might be a bit of story to examine there).

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Reply #136 on: November 15, 2013, 05:23:00 AM

/troll stuff

Seriously though, I'll buy this xpac on day one if they promise that they'll go at least one expansion without doing something related to trolls.  Hell, they went out of their way to put them into the Burning Crusade; can we at least stay in Draenor this time and take a break?

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Reply #137 on: November 15, 2013, 06:28:59 AM

Where were the trolls in Burning Crusade? It's been so long I can't remember.

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Reply #138 on: November 15, 2013, 06:53:50 AM

Where were the trolls in Burning Crusade? It's been so long I can't remember.

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Reply #139 on: November 15, 2013, 07:59:46 AM

I thought the trolls in BC were some of the least offensive actually, just a couple of small side dungeons.

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