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Reply #315 on: December 03, 2018, 03:08:46 PM

We have Netflix and Hulu; if we decide to get Disneyflix, one of those is getting the axe. I generally prefer Netflix for their original content; Hulu is better for TV shows and the wife watches more there.

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Reply #316 on: December 03, 2018, 07:42:15 PM

Netflix is worth keeping for their in house productions, in my opinion. They have a lot of decent horror stuff you wouldn't otherwise see. That alone sells it for me. The kid stuff and wife tv are just gravy.

Half my Netflix viewing lately has been foreign stuff: Hotel Beau Séjour out of Belgium, Transfers from France, 3% from Brazil - all quality entertainment.
Yeah, Netflix turning hard into being a global platform for globally made entertainment was a really smart move.  Lot of good foreign made stuff on there now, and its going to win them a lot of money from outside the US.

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Reply #317 on: December 04, 2018, 09:32:17 AM

The biggest problem Netflix has is that a lot of great stuff is buried where mst people will not find it.  They need to improve their recommendations so that I do not need to find out about a great series here.

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Reply #318 on: December 04, 2018, 09:56:26 AM

Or they can just fix their shitty UI.
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Reply #319 on: December 04, 2018, 02:14:34 PM

That would be swell.

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Reply #320 on: December 06, 2018, 03:50:04 AM

The thing about recommendations is they are never likely to work in any family setting where (purely as a hypothetical example) someone's wife will watch literally any bullshit set between 1600 and 1900 or any show that involves a hospital.

Don't tell me about the 'who's watching' thing. No humans use that shit.

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Reply #321 on: December 06, 2018, 04:55:29 AM

I tend to like Netflix's UI for when I already know what I want to watch and/or I want pickup something I have been watching very recently.  In all other cases, finding new stuff or going back to old stuff when a new season comes out or whatever....yeah, it leaves something to be desired to say the least.  If for no other reason than huge icons taking up so much real estate that you have to page through all manner of shit, and leaving only enough room for recommendations and stuff you've watched already.

It is also fucking miles better than HBO's.  Their shit can't even figure out where I left off from my last viewing.

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Reply #322 on: December 06, 2018, 09:01:52 AM

The thing about recommendations is they are never likely to work in any family setting where (purely as a hypothetical example) someone's wife will watch literally any bullshit set between 1600 and 1900 or any show that involves a hospital.

Don't tell me about the 'who's watching' thing. No humans use that shit.
You guys don't use separate profiles? Even my kids each have their own, so that the boy's Pokemon doesn't crowd the daughter's Liv & Maddie and vice versa.

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Reply #323 on: December 06, 2018, 11:58:54 AM

The latest data from those Parrot Poop guys now claim Daredevil was something like the fourth most highest streamed show during it's first week for so, so even if the total numbers had dropped off the demand was still high.

So yes, it really does seem that any discussion of ratings or disagreements on the set are completely beside the point -- they were getting axed regardless. This does give me some hope that Disney might just license the shows over mostly intact. At this point Charlie Cox is Daredevil, and I would say the same for pretty much all the leads on all the shows.

As for the profiles discussion, I take that a step further and everybody in this house has their own machine. Keeps everything nice and tidy that way.
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Reply #324 on: December 06, 2018, 01:28:26 PM

As far as Netflix profiles, the Netflix channel on some of the older versions of the Roku hardware didn't actually recognize user profiles, so everybody on the account contributes to the recommendations on that box.

But yes, Netflix's UI is garbage.

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Reply #325 on: December 06, 2018, 02:44:01 PM

Me a few weeks ago: Netflix cutting marvel content from their platform is due to fallout from Disney
F13: wtf your talking about, its because iron fist and luke cage were under performing.

A few weeks later Netflix cancels Daredevil

F13: Well fuck, i guess that new exclusive Disney streaming service is having an affect on netflix after all
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Reply #326 on: December 06, 2018, 02:52:09 PM

Me a few weeks ago: Netflix cutting marvel content from their platform is due to fallout from Disney
F13: wtf your talking about, its because iron fist and luke cage were under performing.

A few weeks later Netflix cancels Daredevil

F13: Well fuck, i guess that new exclusive Disney streaming service is having an affect on netflix after all
Me: awesome, for real

The fuck are you talking about?
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Reply #327 on: December 06, 2018, 02:56:07 PM

Me a few weeks ago: Netflix cutting marvel content from their platform is due to fallout from Disney
F13: wtf your talking about, its because iron fist and luke cage were under performing.

A few weeks later Netflix cancels Daredevil

F13: Well fuck, i guess that new exclusive Disney streaming service is having an affect on netflix after all
Me: awesome, for real

The fuck are you talking about?


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Reply #328 on: December 06, 2018, 03:00:46 PM

And now look up several posts on that same page where both Cyrrex and satael mentioned Disney's streaming service even before you did, and the post directly beneath yours where Draegan mentions that Disney "are going to want all Disney/Marvel properties on their platform.". Nobody responded to your post let alone disagreed with it.
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Reply #329 on: December 06, 2018, 03:02:53 PM

pssst, it's in his sig.  It's right there.

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Reply #330 on: December 06, 2018, 03:15:06 PM

Honestly, I don't think he was intentionally trying to troll. I think he's genuinely proud of himself for connecting the same three dots (Disney starts talking more about streaming service, announces MCU shows with actual MCU characters, Netflix starts canceling Marvel shows) that everybody else pretty much automatically connected.
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Reply #331 on: December 06, 2018, 03:36:42 PM

Naw I remembered the conversation differently than what happened, I haven't looked at this forum in like 2 months soo  why so serious?

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Reply #332 on: December 07, 2018, 02:04:48 PM

So fuck off then, yeah?

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Reply #333 on: December 08, 2018, 02:11:46 AM

Honestly, I don't think he was intentionally trying to troll.

You never know, but medium high does seem to accidentally make a lot of troll posts for someone with that signature.


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Reply #334 on: December 08, 2018, 09:26:19 AM

You can take the troll out of 4chan, but you can't take 4chan out of the troll.

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Reply #335 on: December 08, 2018, 11:32:44 AM

Well, are "I'm Right!" posts automatically trolling?

I mean, if I bragged that I was completely right about the ship's name Milano never being spoken in the second Guardians of the Galaxy, plus the ship was totally destroyed by the end of the movie (they had a new ship in Infinity War -- called Benetar by the way), would that be trolling?

 why so serious?
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Reply #336 on: December 10, 2018, 01:37:38 AM

I wonder if ABC has an option to pick up Daredevil, etc...?  ABC Studios does produce these shows. 

I could see ABC making a Marvel: Heroes for Hire show that picks up the threads of all the Netflix discarded shows... keeping the good and writing out the bad quickly. 

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Reply #337 on: December 10, 2018, 09:33:16 AM

You have a much higher opinion of Network television than.... anybody, apparently.

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Reply #338 on: December 10, 2018, 10:02:45 AM

You have a much higher opinion of Network television than.... anybody, apparently.
I didn't say it would be good. Just that I could see them doing it.

I could also see the Summer 2020 season of MAoS move their operations to New York.

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Reply #339 on: December 10, 2018, 10:56:17 AM

ABC TV is not going to put any of the Netflix shows on TV. Those shows are clearly too "mature audiences" for network.

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Reply #340 on: December 10, 2018, 11:10:25 AM

Yeah, that.  The Netflix stuff came about because somebody wanted to do an R rated take on Marvel stuff.  So they grabbed the gritty street level heroes nobody cared about and had fun.

You can only do that on Netflix streaming type services, or HBO.  This is not something that could ever air on Network TV, and none of them would spend the money on it.

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Reply #341 on: December 11, 2018, 11:03:49 PM

That is fucking ridiculous. 

There are a lot of 10 PM shows that are as violent as these shows and handle a variety of maure topics.  They could do these shows, nearly without change (other than run time) at 10 PM.  Further, they can take certain things down a notch while continuing these stories in the 8 PM hour.  Even Jessica Jones.

Crimany.  You act like we're still in 1984 broadcast tv land.   

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Reply #342 on: December 12, 2018, 02:24:17 AM

Netflix said when they announced the cancellation that "the three existing seasons will remain on the service for years to come". With that being the case I can't see Disney/Marvel going too far out of their way to make any new content featuring this version of Daredevil. If nothing else it would be nice if they could work out a way to do another, smaller Defenders miniseries so they could bring some closure to the characters, but honestly I don't see Disney going through the effort (maybe if the last seasons of Punisher and Jessica Jones just completely knock it out of the park).
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Reply #343 on: December 13, 2018, 11:07:51 AM

Apparently, nobody can use these characters until 2 years after cancellation under the contracts, so it is a moot point until late 2020 at the earliest without some accomodation to Netflix.  However, it is something that apparently will be discussed at Disney Streaming: https://www.gamespot.com/amp-articles/daredevil-luke-cage-and-more-may-migrate-to-disney/1100-6464080/
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Reply #344 on: December 28, 2018, 11:16:48 AM

Wow, that may have been the most nothing story ever posted.

Disney Exec: Yeah, we've talked about it but there's nothing to announce.

DUH?

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Reply #345 on: December 28, 2018, 11:21:03 AM

On a 'you know, thread related note' I watched season 3.

It was good.

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Reply #346 on: December 29, 2018, 11:21:39 AM

Wow, that may have been the most nothing story ever posted.

Disney Exec: Yeah, we've talked about it but there's nothing to announce.

DUH?
Saying it is on the table means it is not off the table - which was a distinct possibility. Many were assuming these characters were indefinitely shelved. 

At this point, I'd almost be surprised not to see this Kingpin in a Spider-man property in the next 4 years.

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Reply #347 on: December 29, 2018, 01:43:23 PM

I'm not sure everyone in this thread understands what 'indefinitely' means.

Because these characters are quite literally 'indefinitely' shelved.

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Reply #348 on: December 29, 2018, 03:32:41 PM

Yeah. "Indefinitely" simply means: until something definitive. Definitive could be 'tomorrow we decide to make a new Defenders on Disney'.
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