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luckton
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Reply #315 on: January 21, 2014, 02:52:19 AM

Sometrollone just pledged 10k  awesome, for real

Hmm, I wonder which pot of money Brad dipped into to make that donation, hookers or blow? awesome, for real

pledge withdrawn  DRILLING AND MANLINESS  awesome, for real

And as a result, trending level has fallen below $900k and reduced the pledge level a whole point from 24% to 23%.  Fucking  DRILLING AND MANLINESS

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Reply #316 on: January 21, 2014, 04:11:02 AM

pledge withdrawn  DRILLING AND MANLINESS  awesome, for real

You mean someone didn't want to be flown to the Studio and design a dungeon or a raid with the devs?  Heartbreak

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Reply #317 on: January 21, 2014, 06:37:25 AM

And as a result, trending level has fallen below $900k and reduced the pledge level a whole point from 24% to 23%.  Fucking  DRILLING AND MANLINESS
Yep, it's really close now. That $200k they "lost" in trending is an extra week they could make payroll before giving up the towel. This is exciting!
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Reply #318 on: January 21, 2014, 06:56:14 AM

Punishing group only gaming?  What could possibly go wrong?  PvP?

That Paragon pledge is just astounding.  For $250 you get to work for us unpaid and we reserve the right to cancel you at any time!  Punishment is your reward!  Clean my boots! 
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Reply #319 on: January 21, 2014, 07:10:44 AM

I laughed when I saw that. Who thought it was a good idea to put in a tier where you pay to be a QA peon? Fucking lol.
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Reply #320 on: January 21, 2014, 07:13:34 AM

Think of it as an unpaid internship, if you REALLY want an in to the game development biz that has to be as good as any, right?  awesome, for real

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Reply #321 on: January 21, 2014, 07:36:42 AM

Is it something that you could put on a resume?  If so, would you?   why so serious?

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Reply #322 on: January 21, 2014, 07:51:55 AM

I have seen candidates for game design positions list beta testing experience on their CVs. There was one particular winner* who had no dev experience whatsoever but provided us with a text file of all the feedback he'd given to the dev team of the last MMO that he'd beta tested so that we could see that he was full of good ideas.


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Reply #323 on: January 21, 2014, 07:52:27 AM

That Paragon pledge is just astounding.  For $250 you get to work for us unpaid and we reserve the right to cancel you at any time!  Punishment is your reward!  Clean my boots! 

Actually the best part of that is reading the comments (yes I was bored this morning).  Paragon tier lets you be a QA person but does not give you a free subscription, and another tier doesn't let you be QA but gives you a free (or $1) year subscription and people were agonizingly trying to pick which one was better.

Also the "I have computer experience so I would be good to help find issues" is quite amusing.
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Reply #324 on: January 21, 2014, 08:00:44 AM

It's kinda sad seeing the people weaned on post-WoW MMO gaming, having never dabbled in EQ, Meridian, or anything 1st/2nd gen rave about this game.  They have no idea just how much of a let-down they're in for.

The Pantheon sub over at Reddit is head-over-heels for this game.  If you want to look at the echo-chamber they're constructing, I'd swing by there and observe.

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Reply #325 on: January 21, 2014, 08:03:31 AM

The current generation of gamer doesn't have the attention span to play original EQ.  Ever watch streams of people playing LoL?  Constantly alt+tabbing, hitting tab to check stats, etc.  Does every gamer under 25 have a debilitating case of ADD?  I'm just going to assume that Darwin will take care of this by killing most of them off as they text and drive.

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Reply #326 on: January 21, 2014, 08:04:40 AM

Paragon tier lets you be a QA person but does not give you a free subscription, and another tier doesn't let you be QA but gives you a free (or $1) year subscription and people were agonizingly trying to pick which one was better..
Every since the infamous UO counselor lawsuit, MMOs can't provide free subscriptions in exchange for anything that could be considered work that would normally be paid. They have zero choice there.
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Reply #327 on: January 21, 2014, 08:23:00 AM



If you're bored, visit the Kick Traq page and drill into the Daily Data tab. It has charts!

Average comments per day: 277. If you're really bored, go mine the KS comment thread  why so serious?

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Reply #328 on: January 21, 2014, 08:39:05 AM

That Paragon pledge is just astounding.  For $250 you get to work for us unpaid and we reserve the right to cancel you at any time!  Punishment is your reward!  Clean my boots! 

Actually the best part of that is reading the comments (yes I was bored this morning).  Paragon tier lets you be a QA person but does not give you a free subscription, and another tier doesn't let you be QA but gives you a free (or $1) year subscription and people were agonizingly trying to pick which one was better.

Also the "I have computer experience so I would be good to help find issues" is quite amusing.

The KS is amazingly bad. Just from format, design, presentation, details, tier management, marketing strategy. For fuck sake they "revealed a class" last week and thought it was an awesome thing.

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Reply #329 on: January 21, 2014, 08:40:51 AM

The current generation of gamer doesn't have the attention span to play original EQ.  Ever watch streams of people playing LoL?  Constantly alt+tabbing, hitting tab to check stats, etc.  Does every gamer under 25 have a debilitating case of ADD?  I'm just going to assume that Darwin will take care of this by killing most of them off as they text and drive.

To be fair, the tabbing in league is to check your opponents items or lack of items (i.e. knowing when someone placed a ward).
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Reply #330 on: January 21, 2014, 08:45:55 AM

Paragon tier lets you be a QA person but does not give you a free subscription, and another tier doesn't let you be QA but gives you a free (or $1) year subscription and people were agonizingly trying to pick which one was better..
Every since the infamous UO counselor lawsuit, MMOs can't provide free subscriptions in exchange for anything that could be considered work that would normally be paid. They have zero choice there.

While that's true, it's not a free subscription it's a $1 subscription I think.  Also you are getting the subscription because you are paying for a KS tier, so it's not exactly the same thing.

Regardless, my point is more along the lines of it's extremely funny to watch people having a crisis because they have to choose wheither to pay to be unpaid QA slaves or if they should get a full year subscription for essentially nothing.
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Reply #331 on: January 21, 2014, 10:04:32 AM

I'm torn whether I want this KS to fail so I can get the instant gratification of lulz or have it succeed so I can get some epic lulz at a later date after the fanboys build this up as MMO Jesus only to watch it crash and burn. Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
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Reply #332 on: January 21, 2014, 10:05:14 AM

Apparently some more money just got pulled out in the last hour.  Down another 1% to 22%, trend level dropped to 101% of goal.

 Woot!

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Reply #333 on: January 21, 2014, 10:10:08 AM

I guess a lot of people are looking to fuck with him. First time I've heard of that sort of thing actually making a difference on kickstarter.
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Reply #334 on: January 21, 2014, 10:31:34 AM

I can imagine any number of people who stood in a certain parking lot might have an interest in screwing with his new project and him.

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Reply #335 on: January 21, 2014, 10:40:00 AM

Paragon tier lets you be a QA person but does not give you a free subscription, and another tier doesn't let you be QA but gives you a free (or $1) year subscription and people were agonizingly trying to pick which one was better..
Every since the infamous UO counselor lawsuit, MMOs can't provide free subscriptions in exchange for anything that could be considered work that would normally be paid. They have zero choice there.

While that's true, it's not a free subscription it's a $1 subscription I think.  Also you are getting the subscription because you are paying for a KS tier, so it's not exactly the same thing.

Regardless, my point is more along the lines of it's extremely funny to watch people having a crisis because they have to choose wheither to pay to be unpaid QA slaves or if they should get a full year subscription for essentially nothing.

All it would take is a single competent lawyer to tell Brad he can't do it either way.  If its work that can be paid and you set a schedule then you have to pay people for it. UO Counselors, AOL Mods and volunteer organizations have run into this time and again in the last 15 years.  The companies have all lost.

Chances they have retained such a lawyer or run the idea past them? None.

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Reply #336 on: January 21, 2014, 12:25:27 PM

Paragon tier lets you be a QA person but does not give you a free subscription, and another tier doesn't let you be QA but gives you a free (or $1) year subscription and people were agonizingly trying to pick which one was better..
Every since the infamous UO counselor lawsuit, MMOs can't provide free subscriptions in exchange for anything that could be considered work that would normally be paid. They have zero choice there.

While that's true, it's not a free subscription it's a $1 subscription I think.  Also you are getting the subscription because you are paying for a KS tier, so it's not exactly the same thing.

Regardless, my point is more along the lines of it's extremely funny to watch people having a crisis because they have to choose wheither to pay to be unpaid QA slaves or if they should get a full year subscription for essentially nothing.
It's a free year, then $1 per year thereafter.

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Reply #337 on: January 21, 2014, 12:30:30 PM

While that's true, it's not a free subscription it's a $1 subscription I think.  Also you are getting the subscription because you are paying for a KS tier, so it's not exactly the same thing.
The gist of that lawsuit is that if you're doing a job that would normally be paid, they can't pay you anything less than that normal amount. So if QA staff usually gets $14/hour, they must pay the equivalent of $14/hour. It doesn't matter if you're happy to give away your time for a funny hat and a free subscription, since the lawsuit established precedent nobody will let you do that.
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Reply #338 on: January 21, 2014, 12:49:01 PM

sam, those are two different tiers. There's a $250 tier that lets you be a QA, and a $250 tier that gives you a free 1 year sob with $1/year thereafter. The sub isn't a "payment" for being a QA; you get nothing for your QA job except your name in the credits and a forum title or some silly shit.

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Reply #339 on: January 21, 2014, 01:15:43 PM

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Reply #340 on: January 21, 2014, 01:27:26 PM

Such creativity.

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Reply #341 on: January 21, 2014, 01:32:59 PM


Good lord... I have a request: When this KS fails, can we replace the OP with the Bubble Wizard picture, lock the thread, and never speak of McQuaid again?

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Reply #342 on: January 21, 2014, 02:23:38 PM

Introducing The Dark Knight! He's a badass dude in black plate armor who is...also a NECROMANCER!  And...and...he devours souls!  And he...he rides a fucking Harley right?  And he has big-titted bitches that ride behind him while he does wheelies in the Kroger parking lot!

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Reply #343 on: January 21, 2014, 02:28:29 PM

So Shadowknight?
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Reply #344 on: January 21, 2014, 03:27:13 PM

With harm touch even.
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Reply #345 on: January 21, 2014, 03:30:17 PM

Such creativity.

Well the last class introduced was... THE CLERIC. Not a class introduced by D&D 40 f-ing years ago, really.

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Reply #346 on: January 21, 2014, 04:09:54 PM

The sub isn't a "payment" for being a QA; you get nothing for your QA job except your name in the credits and a forum title or some silly shit.
Yes, that is kind of the point. That's why they're exclusive.
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Reply #347 on: January 21, 2014, 04:17:30 PM

The Jane Austen MMO has a better shot than this.

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Reply #348 on: January 21, 2014, 04:33:40 PM

I'm torn whether I want this KS to fail so I can get the instant gratification of lulz or have it succeed so I can get some epic lulz at a later date after the fanboys build this up as MMO Jesus only to watch it crash and burn. Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?
Why not both? KS fails, some idiot vulture capitalist gets suckered in because he used to play EQ back in the day and tops up the funding, and then it implodes.

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Reply #349 on: January 21, 2014, 05:18:25 PM

With harm touch even.

Harm touch is the least of it.  That's the exact same class symbol that the Shadowknights of EQ had. 

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