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Topic: Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen turns out to be a real game (real bad, geddit?) (Read 340883 times)
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luckton
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Some trollone just pledged 10k Hmm, I wonder which pot of money Brad dipped into to make that donation, hookers or blow? pledge withdrawn And as a result, trending level has fallen below $900k and reduced the pledge level a whole point from 24% to 23%. Fucking
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"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."
"Tuning me out doesn't magically change the design or implementation of said design. Though, that'd be neat if it did." -schild
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Sir T
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pledge withdrawn You mean someone didn't want to be flown to the Studio and design a dungeon or a raid with the devs?
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Hic sunt dracones.
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sam, an eggplant
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And as a result, trending level has fallen below $900k and reduced the pledge level a whole point from 24% to 23%. Fucking Yep, it's really close now. That $200k they "lost" in trending is an extra week they could make payroll before giving up the towel. This is exciting!
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Pezzle
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Punishing group only gaming? What could possibly go wrong? PvP?
That Paragon pledge is just astounding. For $250 you get to work for us unpaid and we reserve the right to cancel you at any time! Punishment is your reward! Clean my boots!
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Draegan
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I laughed when I saw that. Who thought it was a good idea to put in a tier where you pay to be a QA peon? Fucking lol.
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Chimpy
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Think of it as an unpaid internship, if you REALLY want an in to the game development biz that has to be as good as any, right?
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'Reality' is the only word in the language that should always be used in quotes.
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luckton
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Is it something that you could put on a resume? If so, would you?
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"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."
"Tuning me out doesn't magically change the design or implementation of said design. Though, that'd be neat if it did." -schild
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IainC
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I have seen candidates for game design positions list beta testing experience on their CVs. There was one particular winner* who had no dev experience whatsoever but provided us with a text file of all the feedback he'd given to the dev team of the last MMO that he'd beta tested so that we could see that he was full of good ideas.
*Not a winner.
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KallDrexx
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That Paragon pledge is just astounding. For $250 you get to work for us unpaid and we reserve the right to cancel you at any time! Punishment is your reward! Clean my boots!
Actually the best part of that is reading the comments (yes I was bored this morning). Paragon tier lets you be a QA person but does not give you a free subscription, and another tier doesn't let you be QA but gives you a free (or $1) year subscription and people were agonizingly trying to pick which one was better. Also the "I have computer experience so I would be good to help find issues" is quite amusing.
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luckton
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It's kinda sad seeing the people weaned on post-WoW MMO gaming, having never dabbled in EQ, Meridian, or anything 1st/2nd gen rave about this game. They have no idea just how much of a let-down they're in for.
The Pantheon sub over at Reddit is head-over-heels for this game. If you want to look at the echo-chamber they're constructing, I'd swing by there and observe.
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"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."
"Tuning me out doesn't magically change the design or implementation of said design. Though, that'd be neat if it did." -schild
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Nebu
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The current generation of gamer doesn't have the attention span to play original EQ. Ever watch streams of people playing LoL? Constantly alt+tabbing, hitting tab to check stats, etc. Does every gamer under 25 have a debilitating case of ADD? I'm just going to assume that Darwin will take care of this by killing most of them off as they text and drive.
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"Always do what is right. It will gratify half of mankind and astound the other."
- Mark Twain
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sam, an eggplant
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Paragon tier lets you be a QA person but does not give you a free subscription, and another tier doesn't let you be QA but gives you a free (or $1) year subscription and people were agonizingly trying to pick which one was better.. Every since the infamous UO counselor lawsuit, MMOs can't provide free subscriptions in exchange for anything that could be considered work that would normally be paid. They have zero choice there.
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Hutch
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If you're bored, visit the Kick Traq page and drill into the Daily Data tab. It has charts! Average comments per day: 277. If you're really bored, go mine the KS comment thread
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Plant yourself like a tree Haven't you noticed? We've been sharing our culture with you all morning. The sun will shine on us again, brother
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Draegan
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That Paragon pledge is just astounding. For $250 you get to work for us unpaid and we reserve the right to cancel you at any time! Punishment is your reward! Clean my boots!
Actually the best part of that is reading the comments (yes I was bored this morning). Paragon tier lets you be a QA person but does not give you a free subscription, and another tier doesn't let you be QA but gives you a free (or $1) year subscription and people were agonizingly trying to pick which one was better. Also the "I have computer experience so I would be good to help find issues" is quite amusing. The KS is amazingly bad. Just from format, design, presentation, details, tier management, marketing strategy. For fuck sake they "revealed a class" last week and thought it was an awesome thing.
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Draegan
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The current generation of gamer doesn't have the attention span to play original EQ. Ever watch streams of people playing LoL? Constantly alt+tabbing, hitting tab to check stats, etc. Does every gamer under 25 have a debilitating case of ADD? I'm just going to assume that Darwin will take care of this by killing most of them off as they text and drive.
To be fair, the tabbing in league is to check your opponents items or lack of items (i.e. knowing when someone placed a ward).
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KallDrexx
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Paragon tier lets you be a QA person but does not give you a free subscription, and another tier doesn't let you be QA but gives you a free (or $1) year subscription and people were agonizingly trying to pick which one was better.. Every since the infamous UO counselor lawsuit, MMOs can't provide free subscriptions in exchange for anything that could be considered work that would normally be paid. They have zero choice there. While that's true, it's not a free subscription it's a $1 subscription I think. Also you are getting the subscription because you are paying for a KS tier, so it's not exactly the same thing. Regardless, my point is more along the lines of it's extremely funny to watch people having a crisis because they have to choose wheither to pay to be unpaid QA slaves or if they should get a full year subscription for essentially nothing.
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Ginaz
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I'm torn whether I want this KS to fail so I can get the instant gratification of lulz or have it succeed so I can get some epic lulz at a later date after the fanboys build this up as MMO Jesus only to watch it crash and burn.
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luckton
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Apparently some more money just got pulled out in the last hour. Down another 1% to 22%, trend level dropped to 101% of goal.
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"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."
"Tuning me out doesn't magically change the design or implementation of said design. Though, that'd be neat if it did." -schild
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sam, an eggplant
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I guess a lot of people are looking to fuck with him. First time I've heard of that sort of thing actually making a difference on kickstarter.
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Pennilenko
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I can imagine any number of people who stood in a certain parking lot might have an interest in screwing with his new project and him.
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"See? All of you are unique. And special. Like fucking snowflakes." -- Signe
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Merusk
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Paragon tier lets you be a QA person but does not give you a free subscription, and another tier doesn't let you be QA but gives you a free (or $1) year subscription and people were agonizingly trying to pick which one was better.. Every since the infamous UO counselor lawsuit, MMOs can't provide free subscriptions in exchange for anything that could be considered work that would normally be paid. They have zero choice there. While that's true, it's not a free subscription it's a $1 subscription I think. Also you are getting the subscription because you are paying for a KS tier, so it's not exactly the same thing. Regardless, my point is more along the lines of it's extremely funny to watch people having a crisis because they have to choose wheither to pay to be unpaid QA slaves or if they should get a full year subscription for essentially nothing. All it would take is a single competent lawyer to tell Brad he can't do it either way. If its work that can be paid and you set a schedule then you have to pay people for it. UO Counselors, AOL Mods and volunteer organizations have run into this time and again in the last 15 years. The companies have all lost. Chances they have retained such a lawyer or run the idea past them? None.
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The past cannot be changed. The future is yet within your power.
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Rendakor
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Paragon tier lets you be a QA person but does not give you a free subscription, and another tier doesn't let you be QA but gives you a free (or $1) year subscription and people were agonizingly trying to pick which one was better.. Every since the infamous UO counselor lawsuit, MMOs can't provide free subscriptions in exchange for anything that could be considered work that would normally be paid. They have zero choice there. While that's true, it's not a free subscription it's a $1 subscription I think. Also you are getting the subscription because you are paying for a KS tier, so it's not exactly the same thing. Regardless, my point is more along the lines of it's extremely funny to watch people having a crisis because they have to choose wheither to pay to be unpaid QA slaves or if they should get a full year subscription for essentially nothing. It's a free year, then $1 per year thereafter.
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"i can't be a star citizen. they won't even give me a star green card"
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sam, an eggplant
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While that's true, it's not a free subscription it's a $1 subscription I think. Also you are getting the subscription because you are paying for a KS tier, so it's not exactly the same thing. The gist of that lawsuit is that if you're doing a job that would normally be paid, they can't pay you anything less than that normal amount. So if QA staff usually gets $14/hour, they must pay the equivalent of $14/hour. It doesn't matter if you're happy to give away your time for a funny hat and a free subscription, since the lawsuit established precedent nobody will let you do that.
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Rendakor
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sam, those are two different tiers. There's a $250 tier that lets you be a QA, and a $250 tier that gives you a free 1 year sob with $1/year thereafter. The sub isn't a "payment" for being a QA; you get nothing for your QA job except your name in the credits and a forum title or some silly shit.
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"i can't be a star citizen. they won't even give me a star green card"
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Ginaz
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Rasix
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Such creativity.
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-Rasix
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luckton
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Good lord... I have a request: When this KS fails, can we replace the OP with the Bubble Wizard picture, lock the thread, and never speak of McQuaid again?
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"Those lights, combined with the polygamous Nazi mushrooms, will mess you up."
"Tuning me out doesn't magically change the design or implementation of said design. Though, that'd be neat if it did." -schild
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Tannhauser
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Introducing The Dark Knight! He's a badass dude in black plate armor who is...also a NECROMANCER! And...and...he devours souls! And he...he rides a fucking Harley right? And he has big-titted bitches that ride behind him while he does wheelies in the Kroger parking lot!
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Mithas
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So Shadowknight?
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veredus
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With harm touch even.
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Sir T
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Such creativity.
Well the last class introduced was... THE CLERIC. Not a class introduced by D&D 40 f-ing years ago, really.
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Hic sunt dracones.
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sam, an eggplant
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The sub isn't a "payment" for being a QA; you get nothing for your QA job except your name in the credits and a forum title or some silly shit. Yes, that is kind of the point. That's why they're exclusive.
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Paelos
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The Jane Austen MMO has a better shot than this.
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CPA, CFO, Sports Fan, Game when I have the time
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Simond
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I'm torn whether I want this KS to fail so I can get the instant gratification of lulz or have it succeed so I can get some epic lulz at a later date after the fanboys build this up as MMO Jesus only to watch it crash and burn. Why not both? KS fails, some idiot vulture capitalist gets suckered in because he used to play EQ back in the day and tops up the funding, and then it implodes.
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Merusk
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With harm touch even.
Harm touch is the least of it. That's the exact same class symbol that the Shadowknights of EQ had.
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The past cannot be changed. The future is yet within your power.
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