Vaping: 2013-2014 Edition

[schild]

That I use? One tank. But I have 3 of them (Taifun GT). Mods? Hrm. 2 Templars, and an AWE. Wife uses a Chi with a Taifun GT. We're basically a dedicated Taifun GT household at this point. Even my dripper is a Taifun with the Dripper conversion.

I have a bunch of other shit I'm selling but it's certainly not part of some collection.

[Signe]

It's kinda about the collection, too. 

[Reg]

You aren't accusing Schild of turning vaping into some kind of silly hobby surely?

[Ingmar]

That I use? One tank. But I have 3 of them (Taifun GT). Mods? Hrm. 2 Templars, and an AWE. Wife uses a Chi with a Taifun GT. We're basically a dedicated Taifun GT household at this point. Even my dripper is a Taifun with the Dripper conversion.

I have a bunch of other shit I'm selling but it's certainly not part of some collection.

If you changed the username and dropped this post into the Star Citizen thread, I would have no idea it wasn't on topic.

[schild]

That I use? One tank. But I have 3 of them (Taifun GT). Mods? Hrm. 2 Templars, and an AWE. Wife uses a Chi with a Taifun GT. We're basically a dedicated Taifun GT household at this point. Even my dripper is a Taifun with the Dripper conversion.

I have a bunch of other shit I'm selling but it's certainly not part of some collection.

If you changed the username and dropped this post into the Star Citizen thread, I would have no idea it wasn't on topic.

[MisterNoisy]

That I use? One tank. But I have 3 of them (Taifun GT). Mods? Hrm. 2 Templars, and an AWE. Wife uses a Chi with a Taifun GT. We're basically a dedicated Taifun GT household at this point. Even my dripper is a Taifun with the Dripper conversion.

I have a bunch of other shit I'm selling but it's certainly not part of some collection.

If you changed the username and dropped this post into the Star Citizen thread, I would have no idea it wasn't on topic.

He's not offering you 'the opportunity' to buy a Taifun GT or one of the Templars for eventual use in-game for $300.  That's a dead giveaway.

[MahrinSkel]

Arise, and greet your new corporate overlords:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/07/us-health-cigarettes-insight-idUSKBN0FC0AT20140707

As usual, they bury the real lede: Other tobacco companies have joined Lorillard:

Other leading tobacco companies are making a big push for a share of the growing market: R.J. Reynolds Vapor Co., a subsidiary of Reynolds American, began selling its Vuse e-cigarette nationwide last month and Altria's NuMark subsidiary plans to do so with its MarkTen later this year.

The FDA is funding 48 different studies into the safety of ecigarettes, which will doubtless find that vaping itself is not dangerous, but that non-cartomizer methods involving the handling of nicotine solution can be dangerous.  Going to take a few years for the regulations to come in, but the clock is now ticking.

--Dave

[Engels]

All it'll take is some infant chugging a bottle of 24mg ejuice to get the 'for teh children!111" hand wringing started in full force.

[schild]

Arise, and greet your new corporate overlords:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/07/us-health-cigarettes-insight-idUSKBN0FC0AT20140707

As usual, they bury the real lede: Other tobacco companies have joined Lorillard:

Other leading tobacco companies are making a big push for a share of the growing market: R.J. Reynolds Vapor Co., a subsidiary of Reynolds American, began selling its Vuse e-cigarette nationwide last month and Altria's NuMark subsidiary plans to do so with its MarkTen later this year.

The FDA is funding 48 different studies into the safety of ecigarettes, which will doubtless find that vaping itself is not dangerous, but that non-cartomizer methods involving the handling of nicotine solution can be dangerous.  Going to take a few years for the regulations to come in, but the clock is now ticking.

--Dave

Old news is old. FDA will probably find cartomizer the least safe if the studies are even REMOTELY in-depth. In addition, all the big tobacco companies have been joining forces since at least this time last year.

Worst thing that happens: Juice gets separated from Nicotine and you mix them together. Mods are called flash lights. Atomizers get no name change. There's no way to patrol metal like that which does absolutely nothing on its own.

[schild]

I just got this absurd thing in, it's huge.

[Engels]

needs banana for scale

[schild]

No shit.

[Signe]

It's beautiful.

[Furiously]

I picked up a taifun on my last fasttech buying spree.  I'm confused why it isn't leaking all over the place, but it doesn't. It makes just the right amount of smoke, but I think I need to find the right juice for it. It makes my Choo Choo Crunch vanilla tones way too big. It also dries my throat out like I am just starting vaping.

[schild]

How did you build it?

[Furiously]

Microcoil and cotton. I'll try eccowool next.  What's your preferred method?

[schild]

7 wrap microcoil (.28 AWG) around tightly rolled SS200 or 500/400 mesh with a strip of ekowool sitting on top.

[Signe]

There's THIS happening in September.  You should go, Schildy.

[schild]

That sounds awfully boring. I'll be going to ECC (Ontario, CA - we have a booth), Vape Summit (Houston), Vaper's Exhibit (Austin), and Vape Blast (San Antonio).

That's more than enough for me in a 90 day period.

[Signe]

Tell us about it after and remember to sign all the petitions even though they're probably more useful as TP.

[schild]

So, I was going to hang out with Mahrin Skel when he was in Austin last but we were wrapping up something we'd been working on since uh, I guess February. Anyway, if you live in Ohio, Kentucky, New York or New Jersey, my juice is in Altsmoke.

Which, for us, is a pretty big fucking deal.

[Reg]

Congratulations schild! I've wondered why you don't start your own vaping store. You obviously know enough to do it right.

[Signe]

Hoboken is the closest to me.  HOBOKEN!  Why can't I buy some online?  Anyway, don't forget to write about all this stuff more often.  Do you know that Kentucky is one of the most corrupt states in the US?  I would have never guessed.  It's so pretty there what with the blue grass and pretty horses.  Anyway, congrats!  Are you going to try and make this your "thing"?  You know, for a living and all that? 

Yesterday I was at a tattoo parlour (not the one I use) and a woman there was using a bizarre looking contraption that I don't think I've ever seen before outside of maybe science fiction films.  It was like some heavy duty vaping thing.  It looked dangerous.  A friend of hers has a vape shop and she got it in barter for some ink and couldn't tell me anything about it, not even the name.  She didn't try very hard.  She was sort of a bitch.  She did, however, give me his card.  Hopefully some time next week I'll get up there and post a picture of this strange vaping weapon. 

[schild]

Hoboken is the closest to me.  HOBOKEN!  Why can't I buy some online?

http://www.teleosjuice.com/locations/
http://www.teleosjuice.com/buy-online/

[Signe]

Tell me what to buy!

[schild]

I can't tell you what to buy! You have to buy based on your own preferences!

In other news, if you're going to ECC, I'll be at Booth #336

[driph]

I can't tell you what to buy! You have to buy based on your own preferences!

In other news, if you're going to ECC, I'll be at Booth #336

I dig everything I've tried from Teleos, but if you're gonna just try one, based on knowing zero about what you like to vape, I'd say Daybreak.

[schild]

If you like tobacco, Eight Bells.
If you like banana, Daybreak or Dusk.
If you like weird shit, Nightfall.

Edit: Cloud Science stuff is probably too thick for your atomizers.

[schild]

So, I picked up an absolute haul of shit at ECC (some big LA convention thing). Other juicemakers are putting out some pretty great shit.

Top of the list would be "Moondust" from Witcher's Brew, which I believe will be on Giant Vapes shortly. It's crazy, complex and utterly delicious. It's a flavor I wish we had made. Next would be "Gritz" from D-Squared. It's a melony creamy brown sugary thing that is simply divine. #Hashtag from them is also super good. It's a blueberry piecrust affair. G2 has a new line coming out called Vapeture. The standout flavor is White Bull. It tastes like banana pudding from Golden Corral / Insert Other Shitty American Buffet Here. Though, I'll toot my own horn and say "Delta" from our Cloud Science line stole the show. I don't typically pat myself on the back for things but Delta is out of control.

TL;DR:
1. "Moondust" from Witcher's Brew
2. "Gritz" from D-Squared
3. "White Bull" from G2/Vapeture
Special Guest: "Delta" from Cloud Science/Teleos

[MahrinSkel]

Arise!

So, I'm due for another round of kit. Well, not really, I still have plenty of stuff, but there's been a lot of progress in the last year:

High-power regulated gear is now common, with cheap knockoffs doing things that was beyond even the highest-end custom stuff a year ago.  50W brick designs and 35-40W tubes are very cheap, and there are a lot of things bringing in various aesthetic measures (such as real engraving and wooden veneers/enclosures). There's stuff out claiming 100+ watt output, but although the circuitry might be capable, you're not getting more than 40 watts out of each 18650 (some of them do have dual cells, a few have flatpacks). Being able to charge from a USB cable is pretty normal on brick/puck designs and there are a few tubes that do it as well.

With these new high wattage regulated mods, you're no longer forced to go mechanical if you want to go for low resistance cloud chasing. I'm still finding that 10-12 watts is the limit of how much vapor I actually want, so I probably won't mess with the really high power stuff. I'm figuring one more tube model, a double-cell brick, and some kind of mini-stick puck, plus another batch of iClear30's and cores for the same.  Maybe one or two mechanicals just because they're pretty.

With the tobacco companies now split, a lot of the push for legal action has fallen by the wayside (no new e-cig bans, and most of the ones in place aren't being enforced, you can still get away with vaping on the plane as long as you're a little discrete), although it is likely that the FTC is going to regulate to death anything but pre-packaged cig-alikes. But although that will be very bad news for the vape shops that have sprung up all over, direct importing is probably going to continue.  Still open to question is if and how they will regulated e-liquid, I'm accelerating my plans to get a few gallons of 10% concentrate into my freezer.

--Dave

[schild]

Cheap shit has gotten so good I dumped all my mech shit and only have some nice boxes. I exclusively use the Aspire Atlantis for atties (have 11 of them), and a single lone Diablo Behemoth from a bizarre Finnish chap named Teemu. Also the box I'm using is Finnish from a guy named Hannu (Garage of Creation Styx).

Basically, my whole kit is provided by League of Legends characters at this point.

[MahrinSkel]

I just don't see any point in dropping the strength down 1-4mg so I can iron-lung and pump out 100% VG clouds at 30+ watts.  At 25mg (25% VG) I get enough from a couple of fully absorbed puffs to equal a smoke break (which makes it easy to sidestep the ban on my campus), and a full iClear30 will last me all day (and a fully charged cell will last two).

There's a 26650 VW rig I'm looking at just because it would literally last a week, but it would probably be like holding a hand grenade.

--Dave

[schild]

I don't vape 100% VG. Atlantis couldn't wick it anyway. And iClears are trash made of questionable material. Lots of shit is. I get what you're saying, but I'll be at 0mg by the end of 2015 and only still vape because I work in the industry. The point is to quit smoking, not replace it. 25mg. Jesus.

[rattran]

So what would be the current recommendation for vaping 25% VG liguid? The gf is currently using a chicom knockoff ego-E battery/carts. It works okay, but tends to leak.

It's hard to keep up from outside the hobby.

[schild]

Despite the cost (coils get pricey, I made a giant wholesale order for them, heh), I recommend the Atlantis Aspire to fucking everybody now. Shove that bitch on an Aspire CF SubOhm battery or an IPV3 at 30 watts and you're good to go. It's seriously the best atty available right now, it just requires a certain setup. Tomorrow I'll post more about it.