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Reply #840 on: June 20, 2015, 11:31:38 PM

So, let me get this straight. Instead of doing the normal MMO thing and allowing people in the expansion zones right away (as long as you're max level or close) with a possible 'fast track' through vanilla content to get everyone caught up and playing the expansion, you actually have to go through the entire story (including the fetch-quest heavy stuff they added in patches as well as a whole lot of dungeons) and progress your gear using the same old currencies until you're finally past the attunement / gating?

All that can easily take a month of play, or more. How are the "I left this game x years ago with a non-endgame character and bought the expansion to see its content" people reacting? Does this also apply to the new classes?!

edit: It seems there's a gear catch-up mechanism at least.
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Reply #841 on: June 21, 2015, 06:17:38 PM

You cannot unlock the new classes without access to the city in the expansion, so you cannot even play those until you progress through the old story.

Also the new classes begin at level 30.

Also the main story quests you get starting at level 50 now give higher-end gear, which means you'll reach the gear item level without having to run a bunch of random dungeons to get geared.
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Reply #842 on: June 21, 2015, 07:27:56 PM

It's Square. What else would you expect? They are still on a monthly sub and have to milk that for what it's worth. It's a Japanese grinder, plain and simple.

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Reply #843 on: June 22, 2015, 02:35:02 PM

It's Square. What else would you expect? They are still on a monthly sub and have to milk that for what it's worth. It's a Japanese grinder, plain and simple.

This is true but it is fun for a while.  I played for a few months and liked it until it made me cranky and tired.

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Reply #844 on: June 22, 2015, 04:09:02 PM

It's Square. What else would you expect? They are still on a monthly sub and have to milk that for what it's worth. It's a Japanese grinder, plain and simple.

This is true but it is fun for a while.  I played for a few months and liked it until it made me cranky and tired.

Exactly the same reaction. 50 Scholar and I just got frustrated with stuff. Nothing specific though. Loved the setting and the feel and the look of the game. Even played well, but it was a shell of FFXI.

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Reply #845 on: June 22, 2015, 04:12:01 PM

Downloading the Free Trial; never played a FF game (including FFXI), don't know anything about the setting. This will be interesting  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #846 on: July 04, 2015, 12:26:13 AM

Every single goddamn voice is now British.  Yugiri's is some sort of weird whatever, but everyone sounds like they've been ripped from a theatrical production of Harry Potter.  It's grating.

New content is nice, but this is just strange.  I have no idea why they would do this.  Well other than, "this was cheaper".
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Reply #847 on: July 04, 2015, 12:41:17 AM

So that means that every single character is now a bad guy?  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #848 on: July 04, 2015, 10:21:26 AM

Every single goddamn voice is now British.  Yugiri's is some sort of weird whatever, but everyone sounds like they've been ripped from a theatrical production of Harry Potter.  It's grating.

New content is nice, but this is just strange.  I have no idea why they would do this.  Well other than, "this was cheaper".
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Reply #849 on: July 04, 2015, 03:31:07 PM

Every single goddamn voice is now British.  Yugiri's is some sort of weird whatever, but everyone sounds like they've been ripped from a theatrical production of Harry Potter.  It's grating.

New content is nice, but this is just strange.  I have no idea why they would do this.  Well other than, "this was cheaper".

I imagine it was less cost-related and more related to scheduling with the ARR voice actors. From what I understand, most everything pre-Heavensward was recorded back when 2.0 was still in development, and it wasn't until the expac was in development did new stuff need to be recorded.

Some of the VAs are still the same, and a couple are still the same, but with different voice direction.
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Reply #850 on: July 04, 2015, 07:37:06 PM

I'm trying to play this with friends and while it's pretty okay in dungeons the leveling experience is fucking dreadful.

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Reply #851 on: July 04, 2015, 10:56:12 PM

Once you hit 14/15, you should probably just level through dungeons and do the story quest line just for the unlocks.  Relatively few unlocks are outside of it. 

There's some rough patches in the story, I won't lie.  You're part God slayer, part errand runner.

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Reply #852 on: July 06, 2015, 04:22:39 PM

Square Enix is suspending sales of the Mac version and offering refunds to those who want them.  Apparently a lot of hipsters were having problems running it on their 8 year old Macs or couldn't get it going at all. Facepalm

Seriously, unless you want to just keep playing Bejeweled, Farmville, Angry Birds or some random indie 16 bit platformer, get a PC FFS.  PC Master Race 4Life. Rock Out

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Reply #853 on: October 20, 2017, 02:26:41 PM

Necro!

First of all, this game has something like 10 million active subscriptions, trying as much as possible to prove that very traditional MMORPGs (tab targeting, slow global cooldown, not free to play) are far from being dead.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/final-fantasy-14-crosses-10-million-players/1100-6452413/

But the latest news is about a recent expansion which added instanced housing that still comes in limited supplies (!), and since we have been talking to Raph an UO lately I can't help but feel that it's 1997 land rush all over again! I'm loving it!

https://www.vg247.com/2017/10/19/youre-960th-in-queue-final-fantasy-14s-shirogane-housing-is-a-disaster/

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As I set out to grab my own plot in the new Shirogane district, those queues made for one of the reasons I was unable to meet the mad rush into the server. When you know there’s only 720 plots available and your game launches with “you’re 960th in queue,” it’s over.

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Reply #854 on: October 20, 2017, 02:57:06 PM

I could care less about player housing. It's nothing but total fluff to me.

But congrats to them on outpacing WoW. It's well deserved, and one of the only mulligans in MMOs to actually be successful. I should come back for 4.1, since I gave up on Destiny 2 for now.

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Reply #855 on: October 20, 2017, 03:01:45 PM

Well, I could agree with you but the reality is that MMORPGs are ALL about the fluff. There is not a single thing that isn't fluff in MMORPGs.

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Reply #856 on: October 20, 2017, 03:10:53 PM

I suppose. I can understand limiting guild housing for the semi-serious to serious guilds that are involved with the game, as that makes them special and adds a return for their involvement in the game. I don't understand the limitation on apartment housing for individual players. Didn't everyone just get a free customizable apartment in FF XI? Aside from having to actually save and store the data, what the difference between the four-walled instanced area I get put in when I (if ever) check into a town inn and going to a four-walled instanced apartment?

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Reply #857 on: October 20, 2017, 09:32:00 PM

I could care less about player housing. It's nothing but total fluff to me.

But congrats to them on outpacing WoW. It's well deserved, and one of the only mulligans in MMOs to actually be successful. I should come back for 4.1, since I gave up on Destiny 2 for now.
I don't think they've passed WoW; the 10 million figure is total accounts, of which WoW has over 100m.

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Reply #858 on: October 21, 2017, 01:20:59 AM

I suppose. I can understand limiting guild housing for the semi-serious to serious guilds that are involved with the game, as that makes them special and adds a return for their involvement in the game. I don't understand the limitation on apartment housing for individual players. Didn't everyone just get a free customizable apartment in FF XI? Aside from having to actually save and store the data, what the difference between the four-walled instanced area I get put in when I (if ever) check into a town inn and going to a four-walled instanced apartment?

Everyone can buy an instanced apartment nowadays, those are not limited. It's the (land) plots where you can build an actual house that are limited.

for example (my house on a land plot):
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Reply #859 on: October 21, 2017, 05:28:49 PM

Instanced apartments are absolutely limited in number. It's a much higher number, but they're still very limited and on pretty much any decently populated server, every apartment is spoken for.
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Reply #860 on: October 22, 2017, 12:01:25 AM

Instanced apartments are absolutely limited in number. It's a much higher number, but they're still very limited and on pretty much any decently populated server, every apartment is spoken for.

My bad. I must have mixed them with the instanced housing in the FC mansions. It also seems that at least Hyperion (which is not the most populated server) has lots of room in the apartments at Shirogane.
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