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Reply #945 on: April 08, 2014, 12:46:18 PM

I think you could also do Star Trek on TV and in theaters at the same time.... because they already did it.  TnG movies were on during the Ds9 and Voyager era.

My biggest problem with the Marvel model is that their biggest names are going to get 1 story every other year or so while smaller characters will get a much richer coverage on Internet or TV.  That is the exact opposite of the comic books, where super popular characters appear in 2 to 6 titles a month and less popular ones get one if they are lucky.  It is the only real frustrating piece in this puzzle.

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Reply #946 on: April 08, 2014, 01:02:07 PM

Just spitballing here, but it when the best most popular characters and the most pivotal, earth-shatteing events are happening off-screen, its hard to care about whats on screen. Now have the leftovers do something that effects the movies people (like me) might start caring. MAoS it just second fiddle, its not even on the stage.

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Reply #947 on: April 08, 2014, 06:04:40 PM

OH SNAP.  It all went down, sideways and askew.  Very enjoyable hour that really hits the reset button for our merry band of agents.  Glad they at least mentioned Cap, they still could do better coordinating with the movies, but there it is.

Got a couple of minor gripes, but that's the best episode they've done. 
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Reply #948 on: April 08, 2014, 07:23:23 PM

Well that was unexpected.  Don't usually see a TV show blow things up like that in the first season, so I certainly give it credit. Also glad I saw Cap II in the interim between episodes.

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Reply #949 on: April 08, 2014, 07:51:10 PM

Best epi. so far.  "Booyah!"
Also yah, do not watch this epi. b4 seeing Cap2.

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Reply #950 on: April 08, 2014, 07:53:20 PM

The "Hail Hydra" memes all over the internet pretty much already blew the surprise.

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Reply #951 on: April 08, 2014, 09:06:06 PM

I feel like if they just started the show basically at this point, instead of meandering around like incompetent jackasses for a year, it would be so much better.

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Reply #952 on: April 08, 2014, 10:01:31 PM

First I was all like  swamp poop   Then I was all like  DRILLING AND MANLINESS
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Reply #953 on: April 09, 2014, 02:43:38 AM

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Reply #954 on: April 09, 2014, 06:58:38 AM

In the context of the movie universe....


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Reply #955 on: April 09, 2014, 07:07:06 AM

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Reply #956 on: April 09, 2014, 07:23:34 AM

SHIELD can exist if they want it to, either it'll be 5 minutes into avengers 2 before Mace Windu turns up and is all 'Shield went underground and back to its roots motherfuckers', or alternatively it becomes the secret organisation everyone thought it was supposed to be, and they needn't mention it at all.

OTOH How the fuck they plan to maintain that plane I have no idea. The jet a1 supplies and 100 hour maintenance checks on those engines should break Coulsen's team in about a week. But aside from that this poses zero difficulties for the show.

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Reply #957 on: April 09, 2014, 07:41:42 AM


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Reply #958 on: April 09, 2014, 08:05:45 AM


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Reply #959 on: April 09, 2014, 09:19:59 AM

OTOH How the fuck they plan to maintain that plane I have no idea. The jet a1 supplies and 100 hour maintenance checks on those engines should break Coulsen's team in about a week. But aside from that this poses zero difficulties for the show.

 Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #960 on: April 09, 2014, 09:41:57 AM

One of my friends suggested something that has an established foundation on the show and could explain the last minute twist from last night:

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Reply #961 on: April 09, 2014, 11:13:08 AM

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Reply #962 on: April 09, 2014, 11:16:10 AM


and the gate is like I TOO AM CAPABLE OF SPEECH
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Reply #964 on: April 09, 2014, 01:12:31 PM

  I thought it was a bit... weird to spoil the end of a movie that's been out five days, glad i saw it this weekend.

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Reply #965 on: April 09, 2014, 02:04:05 PM

The truth is spoilers don't actually matter unless the spoiler is the entire premise of the work (like Sixth Sense or Fight Club). It's just something people love to get worked up over the same way I can make half this board sperge if I use the wrong there/their/they're.


In total agreement with your spoiler though.

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Reply #966 on: April 09, 2014, 02:13:19 PM

All that can either be set up to foreshadow or to set up a mislead... Time will tell.

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Reply #968 on: April 09, 2014, 02:21:34 PM

One of my friends suggested something that has an established foundation on the show and could explain the last minute twist from last night:


 
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Reply #969 on: April 09, 2014, 02:55:49 PM


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Reply #970 on: April 09, 2014, 03:57:06 PM


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Reply #971 on: April 09, 2014, 07:27:53 PM

I'm not saying that isn't possible, I'm saying that it would be very stupid and disappointing if it goes that way.

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Reply #972 on: April 09, 2014, 07:45:12 PM

Whether or not Ward turns out to be hydra is going to be determined strictly by focus testing for how much his character is liked.

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Reply #973 on: April 09, 2014, 09:05:00 PM

The bestest thing they could do with Ward (and the most Whedon-like) is:

He most definitely was not of his own mind at the end regardless of his allegiance. 

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Reply #974 on: April 09, 2014, 09:37:13 PM

It does open some interesting questions about the Guest House, since apparently Hydra was no more aware of it than most of SHIELD, which implies that it was something only Fury and a few trusted people below him knew about (since everyone above and most at his level were apparently Hydra).  Presumably now that SHIELD is effectively defunct, this mysterious organization will become more involved in the show.

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Reply #975 on: April 09, 2014, 11:37:09 PM

Reading a couple of articles featuring the show runners cleared up an early season "mystery" for me: why in god's name did they invent Centipede, when there were other established organizations in Marvel?

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Reply #976 on: April 10, 2014, 01:08:23 AM

I'm not saying that isn't possible, I'm saying that it would be very stupid and disappointing if it goes that way.

Given the Clairvoyant crap, I suspect it will.

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Reply #977 on: April 10, 2014, 05:42:13 AM

It does open some interesting questions about the Guest House, since apparently Hydra was no more aware of it than most of SHIELD, which implies that it was something only Fury and a few trusted people below him knew about (since everyone above and most at his level were apparently Hydra).  Presumably now that SHIELD is effectively defunct, this mysterious organization will become more involved in the show.

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My guess, guest house will turn out to be the plant intended to make MAoS  viewers geek out during GotG, and give that film an excuse to have Fury show up and tell everyone that SHIELD is still a thing during the mid credits scene.

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Reply #978 on: April 10, 2014, 05:53:53 AM

Making ward a triple agent or a decoy or anything but what we actually see is a terrible, terrible move.  What separates real drama and shitty comic book drama is that there are consequences but in a world where you can retcon everything up to and including death then nothing has meaning or weight anymore.  If shield somehow goes back to status quo, even if it takes a season it will lose credibility where any kind of suspense or drama is concerned. 

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Reply #979 on: April 10, 2014, 06:50:05 AM

Finally watched the episode last night and I pretty much agree with what most have said-

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