~ D&M Open III ~ Interest Check - possible rules discussion

[ezrast]

Personally, I feel that losing Blood Bowl is much more aggravating than winning is fun. It's not that I can't deal with losing and it's definitely not that I feel the dice are screwing me out of games I should be winning. In fact, it's the opposite. I've been trained to believe that in any competitive game the law of large numbers eventually wins out and the more skilled player will win. But Blood Bowl's randomness sits in this weird sweet spot where the random events happen often enough that I feel one game should generally be enough to make everything shake out, but still impactful enough that a little streakiness can make all of your plans go to shit. And as far as f13 goes I'm a solidly middle-of-the-pack coach, so I assume that whenever I lose it's because I got outplayed and whenever I win it's because of the dice. All of my "check out this awesome thing I did" moments are undermined because I know they only happened thanks to rolling three 6's and a 4.

Frankly, I've considered taking a break for each of the last few seasons. Something makes me keep coming back and I have no idea what it is.

[eldaec]

The biggest challenge to fun is simply that this is 1v1 PvP game. Nowhere to hide, no cooperative play, definitive loser (sometimes 2) after each match.

Can you how long an f13 chess league would last?

[HaemishM]

Can you how long an f13 chess league would last?

Based on MMO history, about 1 month.

[proudft]

But in that month everyone would say it was the best thing ever!   

[luckton]

Getting back to D&M, I'm torn between a new team and playing something I have on file.  I can't decide between giving Goblins or Halflings a go (now that I'm a little older, and a little wiser), or trying Agility bullshit again.

[IainC]

But in that month everyone would say it was the best thing ever!   

Depends. if Cyanide made the client, there'd be a random bug where one side could start with 3 queens or your knights might go missing. The UI would be a confusing mess, the auto camera would give you vertigo and you might accidentally click the button to end your turn while trying to look at the last row on the board. Also if you disconnected there would be no way to resume the game later.

[Ingmar]

All I know is I'm not playing my damn Khemri.

[proudft]

I was thinking of elves but I started a high elf team in the Forum Open League and it has been brutal.  Three dead elves in the first three games, bleuargh.  The opponents are remarkably good, though.   So good practice, but painful.

Maybe I should dust off the Golden Hamsters.  We always need more rats.

[Ruvaldt]

I'd love to play with the Emperors again, but my veteran blitzers are mostly dead now, and I'm not sure if I want to rebuild.  I've been futzing around with a Khorne team lately.  I'm really impressed with some of their pieces.  Developing a stable of Bloodletters with all of their advancement options sounds like a lot of fun.  I'm still sad that the team didn't at least get mutation access on doubles, but oh well.

[Ingmar]

Honestly I am starting to lean towards the 'fresh teams' idea for this iteration, after the mostly brutal welcome our new players have had in the regular season. Give them a chance to build something up without as much pressure.

[eldaec]

I'm almost certain the rule is going to be...

'Doesn't have to be brand new but no more than a handful of random matches - don't be a dick and put your 30 match veterans in'

I'm probably going to use my 3 match old dark elves.

[Llyse]

BLOOD BOWL NEEDS FRESH BLOOD TO REPLACE SJOFN (down for a freshish team)

[willisterman]

I'd probably join too, though the idea of only one of each type of team worries me.  I'd hate to get stuck with halflings or something like that...

[Ruvaldt]

Pretty sure we're not going that route.  Leagues that do that sort of thing also usually rule out the joke teams.

[rk47]

I'm up to play, still undecided. Definitely not humans though. Fresh team of something not human. Maybe skavens.

[satael]

I've decided not to take part in this after all 

[Llyse]

I've decided not to take part in this after all 

[eldaec]

We're going with "New or nearly teams, don't be a dick about it."

Now post in the other thread.

[stabby the mime]

Hmm. Interesting thing y'all have got going here. Quite interesting indeed.

Oh, yes. Hello, first time poster, lurked for five minutes or something like that. Heard there some Blood Bowl playing around these parts, and, as I didn't want to sully the more official looking sign up thread just yet, I was hoping to pop in for a moment to see if no one would mind if little ol' me could come in and play. True, there is the 'Who's Who' thread up at the top of the stickies, but that would be a little presumptuous to be posting in there, no?

Think that sums it up really, just curious if this is an established Gentleman's Club or if any straggler could walk in from the cold and enjoy a game or thirteen. If it's the latter, well I guess I've got a bunch of cupcake lovin' High Elves that I can transfer* over, if the former... well... then.... I guess awkwardness would ensue. I can do awkward.


(* and by transfer I mean start over from scratch. Not to worry, I have read over the house rules, and I doubt I can do as bad with them starting out as I did the first time. The elves I mean, not the rules. *whistles*)

[rk47]

You can start by posting a pic of a guy fingering a girls forehead stabby

[Llyse]

Blood god demands more blood!

[eldaec]

New players very welcome. Once you submit a team to the feeder league (see feeder league thread) make sure you post name etc, so that the feeder league approval people know you are legit.

[stabby the mime]

You can start by posting a pic of a guy fingering a girls forehead stabby

Well that's nice and simple way to get in. Question, is this a specific image that we're talking about, or can I pick any within the subgenre of.... actually, what would that qualify under?

...

Okay, serious hat is on, and I will definitely drop a line to properly warn the feeder league grand poobah of my impending arrival onto the premises, figure a quick note in both the Who' Who & General Feeder league thread would be a safe bet? Well, after I do whip up a fresh batch of blood sacrifices players that is.

[Ruvaldt]

Sounds good to me.  I or Lamaros can approve your team pretty quickly.  Just let us know what your coach name is so we don't confuse you with the riffraff.  Also, remember to join the f13 Bloodbowlers Steam group.  That's one of the primary ways in which we coordinate matches.

Speaking of which, I need to get three or so games in before the D&M starts.  Any takers this Thursday or on the weekend?

[IainC]

Sounds good to me.  I or Lamaros can approve your team pretty quickly.  Just let us know what your coach name is so we don't confuse you with the riffraff.  Also, remember to join the f13 Bloodbowlers Steam group.  That's one of the primary ways in which we coordinate matches.

Speaking of which, I need to get three or so games in before the D&M starts.  Any takers this Thursday or on the weekend?

I'll be up for it. Ping me on Steam.

[Llyse]

likewise

[Ruvaldt]

Awesome.   

[rk47]

Blood god demands more blood!

This is why we need more gore pic, stabby.
Anyways, I'm in. Will submit a team when I get home tonight.

[stabby the mime]

Sounds good to me.  I or Lamaros can approve your team pretty quickly.  Just let us know what your coach name is so we don't confuse you with the riffraff.  Also, remember to join the f13 Bloodbowlers Steam group.  That's one of the primary ways in which we coordinate matches.

Cool beans. Just applied to the (hopefully right) league, High Elven team coached by a fool named stabby to be specifc. Will quickly post the full details of my person in the who's who thread now.

[Ruvaldt]

You're approved.  Play away.  And sign up for the D&M tournament; we need more people to beat up.