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Reply #1015 on: July 09, 2014, 12:10:56 PM

I can't wait to play this game again. I'm probably never going to play it though. For me to come back the current devs need to take a hike and some additions:

1) New classes
2) New skills per weapon (collectible with achievements or exploration or other hidden content)
3) New weapons for each class

This living story thing, while fun, is not worth sticking around for and I never liked the zerginess of WvW to ever bother again. This game needs actual updates.

Plus side at least this part of the live story is not zergy at all so far. Mostly like your personal story for your class some running around and finding stuff and some personal instances. God though coming from wildstars to this I forgot how much crap gets thrown in GW2 that there are no telegraphs for kinda annoying to try to figure out what needs to be dodged and what doesn't.
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Reply #1016 on: July 09, 2014, 01:59:48 PM

The actual storyline they are trying to tell looks potentially interesting but we will have to see. It doesn't help that I want to strangle some of the NPCs you are stuck with though.   Argh!

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Reply #1017 on: July 09, 2014, 02:04:19 PM


Yes, it is like the worst fan-fiction...

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Reply #1018 on: July 09, 2014, 09:40:13 PM

Does it have a Mary Sue villain yet? awesome, for real

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Reply #1019 on: July 10, 2014, 07:58:43 AM

Does Scarlet count?

IMO they should just retcon Tybalt and Sieran (along with any number of asura side characters, like the golem deathmatch announcer holowizard) and have them accompany the PC as he/she romps around Tyria kicking faces, saving stray kittens, discussing the finer details of the apple trade and whatnot. I'd buy that for a dollar, etc.
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Reply #1020 on: July 10, 2014, 08:17:11 AM

Ypu had me at Tybalt.

I wonder if GRRM was writing for them: "Here, have a well-written, interesting character with decent back story and conversation... and now they die". Then they got Michael Bay in to do Scarlett: "Mary Sue... blows things up - add more fire, blow more shit up, more explosions, dialogue, blow shit up". Not sure who directed the Arah dragon fight, probably David Lynch or Woody Allen - you know there's a story there somewhere - but you just don't care.

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Reply #1021 on: July 10, 2014, 10:14:46 AM

I'm guessing totally different writers between the two teams, but yes.  It's a pretty dramatic difference.

I'd settle for a "they're not really dead" superhero rebirth if it got us better characters.  (Note, the current writing team is not allowed to touch them if that happens.)

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Reply #1022 on: July 10, 2014, 02:12:42 PM

I don't remember who the hell Tybalt is.

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Reply #1023 on: July 10, 2014, 02:13:42 PM

You can't name someone Tybalt and let them live.

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Reply #1024 on: July 10, 2014, 02:13:54 PM

I don't remember who the hell Tybalt is.


Dead apple merchant.  awesome, for real

He'll be played by Sean Bean in the Guild Wars movie.

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Reply #1025 on: July 10, 2014, 02:24:01 PM

I don't remember who the hell Tybalt is.

He's your mentor if you join the Order of whispers. He would love your apples!  Ohhhhh, I see.

All 3 of the order mentors were great characters. Then you meet Trehearne... Urgh. The tragedy is that if you read Trehearne's dialogue its actually great, its just that the voice actor mangles it completely. I read it in my mind with Optimus primes voice and it would have been fabulous. Urgh.

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Reply #1026 on: July 10, 2014, 05:15:03 PM

Man, I still don't remember this Tybalt person at all. And I DID join the Order of Whispers! Twice, I think!

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Reply #1027 on: July 10, 2014, 05:29:05 PM

Tybalt was awesome.  The only time the entire scarlet storyline had any impact at all was when the bitch made me fight Tybalt in that giant tower of hers.

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Reply #1028 on: July 10, 2014, 07:42:48 PM

Two Tibbs a Whisker ring any bells?

BTW, Jennifer Hale does awesome drunks.

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Reply #1029 on: July 10, 2014, 09:45:24 PM

Ohhhhh right, that guy. Man, I had completely forgotten about him. Honestly, the only characters I even sort of remember is your douchebag friend as a human noble and the charr you went joyriding with after getting shitfaced as a Norn.

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Reply #1030 on: July 11, 2014, 03:57:48 AM

I don't remember who the hell Tybalt is.

He's your mentor if you join the Order of whispers. He would love your apples!  Ohhhhh, I see.

All 3 of the order mentors were great characters. Then you meet Trehearne... Urgh. The tragedy is that if you read Trehearne's dialogue its actually great, its just that the voice actor mangles it completely. I read it in my mind with Optimus primes voice and it would have been fabulous. Urgh.
The majority of GW2 voice acting is...not exactly bad per se, but odd. It's like they did so many takes that the VAs got bored or fed up in the end, and then they used that one. And that's not even counting the multiple mispronunciations - seriously people, "quay" is "key", not "kway"!

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Reply #1031 on: July 11, 2014, 05:22:37 AM

Golem being pronounced as Gollum drives me up the fucking wall. I bugged it like five times in the alpha to no avail.
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Reply #1032 on: July 11, 2014, 09:52:54 AM

Kwaa is acceptable in American English.  I didn't even know it could be pronounced Key.

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Reply #1033 on: July 11, 2014, 10:39:14 AM

"Quay" is "kway" in American English, yeah.

Most of the voice acting IS bad - often even when turned in by otherwise good voice actors. It gives me much more of an appreciation for what a good voice director does for a game, that's for sure.

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Reply #1034 on: July 11, 2014, 10:50:42 AM

Terrible voice acting has been a staple for GW since Prophecies, though. My guildies STILL make fun of Rurik / Undead Lich (lol) / Togo / Danika / almost the entire Nightfall cast whenever GW1 comes up.  awesome, for real

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Reply #1035 on: July 11, 2014, 01:01:35 PM

Kwaa is acceptable in American English.  I didn't even know it could be pronounced Key.
Okay, chalk that one up to another case of "Americans can't speak proper like wot I do".  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #1036 on: July 11, 2014, 01:06:07 PM

What I find sort of funny is SUPER terrible voice acting is apparently a Norn racial trait.

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Reply #1037 on: July 11, 2014, 01:10:56 PM

As well as any non-playable race.

Bear shaman Marga is hilariously bad. 
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Reply #1038 on: July 11, 2014, 01:27:26 PM

Quaggan sad.  cry

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Reply #1039 on: July 11, 2014, 04:58:36 PM

The placeholder text-to-speech engine in the TESO beta did a better job of voice acting than most of the scouts and vendors in this game.

That is not an exaggeration.

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Reply #1040 on: July 11, 2014, 09:06:08 PM

The move to "kway" in American English is a relatively recent development. (A case where ignorance slowly becomes embedded.) You can actually trace the historic shifts from "kee" to "kwey" to "kway".

Don't get me started how the game butchered "centaur" and "minotaur".
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Reply #1041 on: July 15, 2014, 04:30:51 PM

Second chunk of the living story debuted today. I have to say, its a VAST improvement over the first part, with some actual half decent story telling and some very dangerous monsters being added to the mix. Expect to die a quite few times before you figure out how to deal with them. The new area is quite a bit of fun as well.

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Reply #1042 on: July 16, 2014, 12:12:34 AM

I'm not sure that anything could be worse than part one. Biggest non-event ever. For a game that has beautiful graphics and had so much potential - the turd that is the living story is pathetic.





I'll still log in to check it out though.

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Reply #1043 on: July 16, 2014, 04:43:45 AM

Yeah, yesterday's content is legit. The writers can't fucking write dialogue, which lets the thing down a bit at a very serious moment (no spoilers, but bad jokes with terrible voice acting at the most serious, history altering point of the story is a no no), but damn, the larger story unfolding in this episode is actually good.
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Reply #1044 on: July 16, 2014, 07:45:45 AM

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Reply #1045 on: July 23, 2014, 07:31:19 PM

I already got zee boot!  why so serious?

I just checked.  I did too!  Then I looked at doing the first part of the living story and it's 200 gems because I didn't log on for a while (Wildstar then Divinity).  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #1046 on: July 23, 2014, 07:44:23 PM

Wait, what? You have to spend gems to access the new content?  So this is basically a paid expansion?

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Reply #1047 on: July 23, 2014, 08:07:35 PM

I guess if you don't log in when it's the current living story iteration, gems are required to unlock it.  So, I can do part 2 for free, but part 1 costs gems. This is truly, truly outrageous.

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Reply #1048 on: July 23, 2014, 08:29:22 PM

Yes, if you log in during the 2 weeks that an episode is "active" you can do that episode for free, even if you don't actually do that story till later.

I wouldn't waste my money on episode 1. The highlight is girlylesbian telling a badly wounded and dying woman that she loves her dress and must get something in that colour, followed by me punching something. Though there is a fairly tough boss fight.

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Reply #1049 on: July 23, 2014, 08:44:55 PM

I can't remember how much gems are to know if 200 gems is a lot or not.

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