Marvel Universe (Thar be spoilers ahead.)

[Lakov_Sanite]

Much as I like Cumberbatch I'm not sure he can carry a whole movie on his own yet.  Hawke would be a good choice in my mind, he's got chops and he's hungry for a big part.

[Merusk]

What's Cumberbatch look like with more weight?  He also strikes me as a bit too young and English. Strange needs to look at least 40 when he falls and despite being 38 Cumberbatch looks to be in his early 30s at worst. And English. So very, very English.

[jgsugden]

None of those are good choices. Matt Bomer is too young looking, Oliphant too Western, Reedus too seedy and Lincoln just doesn't fit to me.

There is a huge difference between a role and the actor.  Oliphant, Reedus and Lincoln have done more than just Justified and Walking Dead.  And Bomer can dig pretty deep.  I think they'd all be great choices that could be signed for a lengthy series.

I stand by my opinion.

[NowhereMan]

If he could do enough to play it straight I think Depp actually has a decent look for Strange and could certainly do arrogant followed by mental break down and rebuilding. At least if he actually chooses to act in it rather than just keep playing Jack Sparrow.

Of course he would probably be way too big a name for the MU movies to want to touch him.

[Maven]

What's Cumberbatch look like with more weight?

The Cumberplump.

[HaemishM]

None of those are good choices. Matt Bomer is too young looking, Oliphant too Western, Reedus too seedy and Lincoln just doesn't fit to me.

There is a huge difference between a role and the actor.  Oliphant, Reedus and Lincoln have done more than just Justified and Walking Dead.  And Bomer can dig pretty deep. 

They are all good actors and could certainly surprise me. I've seen them in other roles than the ones you mention. I still don't think they are right. Though I think Ethan Hawke might actually be able to pull it off, I'm not a fan of him. Depp is the best of the bunch for the role, IMO, but I don't think he'd do it. I think they should go for a relative unknown, personally.

[Maven]

I like Depp but the last thing we need is him taking on a strange character. He's done THAT enough times...

[UnSub]

The biggest problem, in my mind, is not the violence, profanity, or any of the other stuff that would be better in an R film...

It is that Deadpool is meant to play off other important characters, and is not meant to be the centerpiece.  He is designed to be a  secondary character, not a main character.  Writing a Deadpool movie would be like making a Kramer (of Seinfeld), Barney (of HIMYM), or Cliff Clavin (of Cheers) TV series... they're too out there to be a main character.  If you try to move them to the spotlight, and flesh out their secondary character to give it a main character's depth, you violate their core.  That is why Frasier worked - the character was not so far out there that you could add depth without changing what was appealing in the character.  

Yes, I know he has his own comics.  But what happens in the majority of those comics?  Guest stars for him to play against, or cliché situations that are the real core of the story so that he can provide the counterpointe.

Yeah, that Fraiser show sure folded fast. 

'Frasier' was seen as a complete longshot, especially after 'The Tortellis' only lasted a seaon.

Who? Exactly.

Deadpool needs a straight person to bounce off. He's the Chris Tucker of comic book characters.

[Sir T]

Now now. Look at how successful the "Joey" TV series was after "Friends" 

[jgsugden]

Now now. Look at how successful the "Joey" TV series was after "Friends" 

And the reason for that is pretty clear - and addressed by the post where I first mentioned Frasier. 

A character, such a Joey, Kramer - or Deadpool - that is designed to be a secondary character - needs something to play off.  If you try to make them the primary character, their quirks move from accent to feature and they move from comic relief to awkwardness.  I'd love to see Deadpool in a team movie.  I fear seeing him in a movie where he is center stage and has to carry the emotional load of the film. 

And before someone points out that Deadpool is not designed to carry an emotional load - a film needs it.  Deadpool's inability to deliver it while being true to the Deadpool from the comics is the problem.

[HaemishM]

It's like you've never noticed that Deadpool has been carrying multiple versions of his own title for years.

[Evildrider]

And before someone points out that Deadpool is not designed to carry an emotional load - a film needs it.

The Jackass guys would disagree with you.

[jgsugden]

It's like you've never noticed that Deadpool has been carrying multiple versions of his own title for years.

Or, it is like I addressed that earlier.  There is a reason that those titles feature so many other characters...

... and that is somewhat of an irrelevant point as a comic book and a movie are quite different beasts... unless you spend 2 hours reading each Deadpool comic?

[jgsugden]

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The Jackass guys would disagree with you.

So I see.  Oh, snap.

[Maven]

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The Jackass guys would disagree with you.

So I see.  Oh, snap.

Some people just want to watch the world burn, or guys being hit in the nuts.

[Teleku]

You know, it's pretty easy for them to create random characters to be the straight man for him to play off.  They do not need any established marvel characters to do so (which is also what they often do in his comic).  They are the serious cop/agent/soldier trying to stop something, he is the the guy with superpowers they have to rely on to do so.  But of course, he's god damn insane deadpool.  They can make up all the supporting cast they need.

Easy as hell, not even sure why it's being discussed.

[jgsugden]

You know, it's pretty easy for them to create random characters to be the straight man for him to play off.  They do not need any established marvel characters to do so (which is also what they often do in his comic).  They are the serious cop/agent/soldier trying to stop something, he is the the guy with superpowers they have to rely on to do so.  But of course, he's god damn insane deadpool.  They can make up all the supporting cast they need.

Easy as hell, not even sure why it's being discussed.

Easy =/= good.  Crimany.

The better reason not to be discussing it here is this thread seemed to have been intended to handle the Marvel run MCU movies - and this is in other hands.

[HaemishM]

Almost the entirety of some comedian's careers are completely disagreeing with your assertion that Deadpool needs established straight characters to play off of. He doesn't if the script is written well, the actors have the comedic chops to pull it off and the director isn't a complete fucknugget. Ryan Reynolds can pull off the Deadpool character and as Teleku said, you don't have to have SPECIFIC ESTABLISHED characters for him to play off of. You are just wrong.

Now whether it WILL be good is another story, but there's nothing going on with the current setup that can't end up being good.

[Soulflame]

Wasn't Deadpool specifically built so that Ryan Reynolds would portray him at some point, or is that internet legend?

[HaemishM]

Considering he was created by Rob Liefeld in the early '90's before Ryan Reynolds was even out of high school, I'm going to say NO.

[Maven]

I thought he was joking. A quick Wikipedia search would have sniffed out that info.

[Soulflame]

Eh, it was something I heard about the time of the XMen movie he was in as Sort-of-Deadpool.  I thought it would be cool if true.  If it's not true, well, that makes me the gullible one.

[SurfD]

I dont know.  The Deadpool "character" obviously predates Ryan by a good bit, but that does not rule out the possibility that one of the current "versions" of Deadpool might not have been tailored a bit towards Renolds.  Much like the way the new Nick fury has looked remarcably like Sam Jackson for god knows how long, and Tony stark in the comics has been an almost spitting image of RDJ for just about as long as RDJ has been attached to Ironman (or possibly even longer).

[Lakov_Sanite]

To be fair RDJ was always Tony Stark.

[Evildrider]

So we have Marvel canceling FF, Wolverine's incoming death, Spiderman fuckery, and the fact that the X-men aren't even anywhere near the movie X-men anymore, they have now added the possible death of Deadpool in March 2015.  This is just a rumor, although they have confirmed someone with Dead in their name will be killed off. 

[Velorath]

Normally I'd dismiss it all as nonsense given the minimal effect that the sales of comics and the box office grosses for movies have on each other. The FF stuff though seems like it might actually have some sort of basis in reality though with the rumor being Marvel CEO Isaac Perlmutter (who is also noted as being Disney's highest single shareholder) canceling the book as part of a grudge against Fox. Sounds a tad ridiculous but a couple things have come out about Marvel not allowing artists to use any FF related character on sketch cards, and Mondo (who make posters) stating that Marvel rejected anything related to FF. They do currently have a number of Deadpool posters available which obviously Fox also has the movie rights to. There's also reports that Diamond Toys isn't allowed to make any FF new merchandise right now.

Of course it's also possible that Marvel just has plans for some sort of major FF relaunch down the road which includes merchandising.

[Nevermore]

Gazillion was still able to add FF members as playable heroes over the summer, if that means anything.  Maybe the original license explicitly says they can use any hero, though Marvel delayed them adding Nova for a long time and for some reason Namor isn't being added anytime soon.

[Ironwood]

Is it because Namor is retarded ?

[Merusk]

He's just as awesome as Aquaman!

Oh.

[Lantyssa]

I actually like Aquaman more than Namor...

[Sir T]

Ditto.

[RhyssaFireheart]

Obligatory Aquaman pic

[HaemishM]

Aquaman has always been cooler than Namor because 1) Namor is a complete dickbag, 2) he doesn't have wings on his feet. Aquaman as written by Peter David was awesome (that would be Aquaman with the hook hand). Everyone else? Not always so much. Namor has always been a dick. Now he just happens to be a genocidal dick.

[Fordel]

I dont know.  The Deadpool "character" obviously predates Ryan by a good bit, but that does not rule out the possibility that one of the current "versions" of Deadpool might not have been tailored a bit towards Renolds.  Much like the way the new Nick fury has looked remarcably like Sam Jackson for god knows how long, and Tony stark in the comics has been an almost spitting image of RDJ for just about as long as RDJ has been attached to Ironman (or possibly even longer).

Ultimate's Nick Fury was purposefully made to look like Jackson. As in Marvel went and asked for Jackson's permission to do so and Jackson's reply was "sure, but I better play him if you ever make a movie".

[Velorath]

Apparently Chris Claremont mentioned a few months back that writers aren't allowed to create any new characters in any of the X-men books right now because Fox would have the movie rights.