Camelot Unchained

[KallDrexx]

I did the DAoC trial a year or two ago (never having gotten into the game when it was fresh) and the interface and systems were so archaic it was basically unplayable. Nothing will entice new players into the old, old guard at this point. If the 12 people still subscribing are enough to keep the lights on, there's no reason to disturb the order of things now.

But I mean, just check out the awesome videos Mythic uses to promote DAOC.  How could you not want to play that in 2013 

[waffel]

My god that game had some massive desync. Hard to believe I used to play that looking back on it.

[HaemishM]

So many disappearing ice skaters in that video.

Also, the fact that Bioware has to put their name on that shows how much of a deal with the devil they made when they sold to EA.

[Nebu]

But I mean, just check out the awesome videos Mythic uses to promote DAOC.  How could you not want to play that in 2013 

That video reminded me of all the ways that ToA fucked up the game. 

[Nevermore]

Did they really think adding generic rabble rabble mob sound would help?

[Phred]

Wasn't there another thread where people were claiming graphics didnt matter?

[UnSub]

But I mean, just check out the awesome videos Mythic uses to promote DAOC.  How could you not want to play that in 2013 

1) I really appreciated the captions to the video, because I had no idea what was going on at any point during that.

2) The Featured Video associated with this promo was "I Lost $250,000 In One Day!" which seemed fitting.

3) Someone should have really cut that video to show an individual story rather than a lot of very similar looking ants running around.

[Fordel]

1) I really appreciated the captions to the video, because I had no idea what was going on at any point during that.

Sadly for me, I still pretty much do know what is going on when I see footage like that. 

[palmer_eldritch]

Did they really think adding generic rabble rabble mob sound would help?

They should follow CCP's example and have actors doing the voices of players, in scary Russian accents http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDVEHE10nHc

[luckton]

Sadly for me, I still pretty much do know what is going on when I see footage like that. 

Same.  You never ever totally forget your first love (of MMOs).
 

I did the DAoC trial a year or two ago (never having gotten into the game when it was fresh) and the interface and systems were so archaic it was basically unplayable. Nothing will entice new players into the old, old guard at this point. If the 12 people still subscribing are enough to keep the lights on, there's no reason to disturb the order of things now.

If it's all one big corporation at this point, I fail to see why charging $15 at the door is justified, esp. at the population numbers they're at.  Even if they didn't add a cash shop, the value of the game for those that still play would increase exponentially by having some new/fresh blood added to the mix of a PvP game. 

[Nevermore]

Did they really think adding generic rabble rabble mob sound would help?

They should follow CCP's example and have actors doing the voices of players, in scary Russian accents http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDVEHE10nHc

Eve trailers always look great.  The game seems so dramatic and exciting in those, then you log in and it's more like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMSjd6HNQdY

[Phred]

Eve trailers always look great.  The game seems so dramatic and exciting in those, then you log in and it's more like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMSjd6HNQdY

The answer is simple. Move the trailer designers to game designer positions.

[Fabricated]

Upgrade the sad slide whistle to sad trombone. Donations have pretty much completely dried up.

Last week it would've taken $50,000 a day to make it over 2mil, now it'll take $70,000.

[Ingmar]

l to see why charging $15 at the door is justified, esp. at the population numbers they're at.  Even if they didn't add a cash shop, the value of the game for those that still play would increase exponentially by having some new/fresh blood added to the mix of a PvP game.  

It's justified because the people who pay it really, really want the game to stay alive. Cutting the price will not get them any new blood - the game is just too old and creaky. And the people who are paying it are happy to keep paying it, because it keeps their baby alive.

[Fabricated]

[Lantyssa]

[WayAbvPar]

Time for MJ to knock the dust off of his wallet if he wants this turd to float.

[Threash]

There's no point in risking his own money on something that has garnered very little interest.

[Rasix]

[ghost]

Did they really think adding generic rabble rabble mob sound would help?

They should follow CCP's example and have actors doing the voices of players, in scary Russian accents http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDVEHE10nHc

Eve trailers always look great.  The game seems so dramatic and exciting in those, then you log in and it's more like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMSjd6HNQdY

Even that's more exciting than it truly is.  I always counted myself lucky to get blown up. 

[Phred]

There's no point in risking his own money on something that has garnered very little interest.

I don't know but I think most people would spend 700,000 to get 1.3 mill.

[Dark_MadMax]

so 12k people are interested in this sort of game.About what I expected

[Ingmar]

so 12k people are interested in this sort of game.About what I expected

More people than that are interested in this sort of game. The only thing you learned here is that only 12k people trust MJ and/or are dumb enough to think that you can kickstart an MMO on 2 million.

[UnSub]

There's some hope among current backers that a big dollar backer pops out of the woodwork soon which suddenly makes everyone interested again.

If it fails, the post-mortem will say that $2m was too much - if he'd gone for $1m or $1.5m, Jacobs would have got it.

[Feverdream]

There are many who would be extremely interested in a DAOC revamp, but we know better than to trust Mark Jacobs to actually be capable of good planning and actual follow-through.  Not to mention the fact that most (if not all) of the Mythic employees who were actually the driving force behind the RvR model are gone.  Mark tended to make a lot of comments indicating that PvP implementation and gameplay were not high on his personal priority list.  In fact, he often came across as less than comfortable with PvP.  So it's interesting/amusing to see him portray himself as the great savior of RvR now.

Anyway, as much as I miss DAOC in its heyday -- and I miss it a lot -- I won't involve myself in this Kickstarter thing.  I'm honestly a little shocked that anyone has at all, even though 12Kish is hardly an impressive head count.

[Numtini]

If people had doubts about Jacobs, Warhammer completely solidified those as facts. One of the reasons I ditched so quickly was I could see the same attitude coming from the company about issues and I'd already danced that dance. Waiting on metrics. FIFO fixes. etc.

[luckton]

I'm watching the videos and info they're pumping out trying to raise interest and funds.  It's like they're pretending that the problems of DAoC and WAR never flipping happened.  So surreal 

[tazelbain]

MJ is the kinda guy who fires his company's talent because they won't tow his line.

[ghost]

Looks like he should have named it Camelot Unfunded. 

[Nebu]

I think his kickstarter is waiting for mez to wear off. 

[waffel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2tWbPZSm2Jk#t=92s

Someone let this guy know the game isn't going to happen.

[Tmon]

I think his kickstarter is waiting for mez to wear off. 

 

[Hayduke]

Not sure where the 12k number is coming from.  Looks like it still has less than nine thousand backers.  The average amount donated is insane though.

[HaemishM]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2tWbPZSm2Jk#t=92s

Yay, they have EQ1 running on an emulation server. 

5-star drive, 3-star talent.

[Lantyssa]

Love that phrase.