Shannow
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I've got a bad feeling about this..
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Yegolev
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Thread title could be: "Star Wars: Why The Fuck Not?"
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tazelbain
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Star Wars:Let's out George Lucas George Lucas.
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Samwise
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Venkman
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I remember a mid-2000s interview with him. He expressed complete disinterested in doing Han Solo, but when asked about Indiana Jones he said "in a New York minute". I spent whole minutes ( minutes!) trying to find that clip, but the best I could do was two quotes. Apparently he had "outgrown direct GL involvement that character". Amazing what a gajillion dollars and a probably-walk-in-the-park role can do to entice someone. |
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Simond
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And no Lucas.
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Khaldun
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Honestly I am guessing that's part of it for some people. Portman and Neeson have both been really clear in interviews that working with Lucas was about the worst experience of their lives as actors.
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Ironwood
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Can you share me some of those interviews ?
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Ratman_tf
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And no Lucas.
He's still an advisor.  |
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Khaldun
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I'll see if I can dig out the links. Neeson if I remember right said that he was thinking of quitting acting altogether after finding working on Phantom to be a totally depressing experience that made him feel like there wasn't any point to being a skilled actor. Portman more oblique, I'm trying to remember where I saw that some of her friends had said she was frustrated. She did go out of her way to say that CGI acting was ok by her, clearly a response to Neeson.
Terence Stamp, by the way, said of Lucas, " “We didn’t get on at all...I didn’t feel he was a director of actors, he was more interested in stuff and effects.” “He didn’t interest me and I wouldn’t think I interested him.”
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« Last Edit: February 16, 2013, 05:21:26 PM by Ratman_tf »
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murdoc
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Have you tried the internet? It's made out of millions of people missing the point of everything and then getting angry about it
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Simond
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And no Lucas.
He's still an advisor. Well all hope that means he's got a nice office with a pretty secretary somewhere far away from where any actual decisions are being made. |
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Venkman
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Man and the first image at the end of that story is of Joss Whedon.  |
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eldaec
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It is possible I'm being unfair, but I always thought what Harrison Ford outgrew was not "Han Solo", it was "films in which Harrison Ford is not the sole male lead or where a picture of Harrison Ford made up less than 30% of the poster".
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Merusk
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It is possible I'm being unfair, but I always thought what Harrison Ford outgrew was not "Han Solo", it was "films in which Harrison Ford is not the sole male lead or where a picture of Harrison Ford made up less than 30% of the poster".
Sounds more correct to me. I always figured he bought in to the "i'm a big deal movie star!" shtick and didn't want to go back to being a piece of a cast. Perhaps the stinkers his last few movies changed that mindset, but I'm more likely to believe he's got an Alimony payment due. Fisher's sign-on reminds me she said she was leaving acting after finishing-up Jedi. Combined with Neeson and Portman's thrashing of Lucas I can't imagine why that might be. |
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Evildrider
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New rumor going around now that they are looking into making a KOTOR movie. WIth Drew Karpyshyn supposedly working on a script. This goes along with the fact that he left Bioware in February to pursue "screenwriting".
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Margalis
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This sounds worse and worse every day.
A couple months ago I thought Disney buying Star Wars sounded like a step in the right direction. Not so sure anymore.
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vampirehipi23: I would enjoy a book written by a monkey and turned into a movie rather than this.
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Simond
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On the other hand if all the frustrated filmmaker-wannabes fuck off out of Bioware then maybe they'll start making games again. Silver lining and all that.  |
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eldaec
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That kind of rumour is the sort you know is made up either by EU fans or agents flying kites.
Even if Disney were that stupid, nobody plans this many films ahead, they have actual jobs to do.
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Merusk
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The other thing is, it's Hollywood, even if it is Disney. Ideas are pitched all the time. Nearly every novel ever on the bestseller's list is optioned for movie deals. How many do you think we'll see?
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Venkman
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Exactly. Everything after "Disney buys Lucasfilm" is pretty much vapor. Even JJ Abrams. These things excite. But don't go running to your bookie. It's all vapor until it's on screen. We're a gamers' site after all. Gamer rules apply |
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Fabricated
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To be honest we're probably all too old to really be able to convincingly argue about what the best direction for the IP is considering that we're all way past the target demographic anymore. All the wearyness/anger with Lucas over the 1-3 debacle hasn't stopped a whole new generation of kids from getting into the series and rather liking it. The Clone Wars CG show apparently does really good numbers, and I have to say that outside of a couple things (namely conjuring a padawan for Anakin from the bunghole of the EU) it really isn't that bad from what I've seen. We're old, people.  |
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Merusk
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That's what I've been saying.
Nobody cares about the opinions of a bunch of 35+ white males. There's other venues looking for our money and shortly all our free cash will be going to support our kids in their teen years/ college/ early adulthood. Our kids are the ones they want to impress.
Welcome to middle-age.
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UnSub
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Nobody cares about the opinions of a bunch of 35+ white males.
They do for tent pole IPs like "Star Wars". Disney will want everyone to see this new franchise, which means not alienating anyone. Look to the casting of the film - a lot of Star Wars is young-ish white people dealing with problems caused by other older white people (although the prequels did add a lot more cultural diversity to the mix) and I expect any new films to follow that lead. Plus White 35+ males are also in the group who will go out and buy the DVD, whereas those youngsters will watch it for free on the YouBay PirateTubes. |
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They are also the ones with the money to take their kids to Disneyland to see the new Star Wars-whatever-they-come-up-with tie in.
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Ratman_tf
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40 year old manchildren buy toys too! THEY ARE CALLED ACTION FIGURES |
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Venkman
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That's what I've been saying.
Nobody cares about the opinions of a bunch of 35+ white males. There's other venues looking for our money and shortly all our free cash will be going to support our kids in their teen years/ college/ early adulthood. Our kids are the ones they want to impress.
Welcome to middle-age.
We're the ones who'll be bringing the kids to the theater. If the movie is good enough, we'll bring them repeatedly. More importantly, as others sadi, we'll be bringing home the 1080p/4k download, or bluray for our home theaters we occasionally let the kids use. And finally (and most relevantly), whatever video game is made will be squarely for us, if it's getting a AAA budget and isn't some bullshit Facebook thing. The core video game industry is aging right along with us. There's no reason a competent director and studio can't make a movie with transgenerational appeal, especially an IP that doesn't need to appeal to just one demographic. We're not talking teenage angst or yet-another-kid-wizard. Disney is rather hit or miss with this kind of thing, but they've been able to do it, and for something like this, they're going to need to prove they can. Because nowadays summer blockbusters don't ride on the way of the 6-10 year old, and after the amount of money they spent for the studios and rights and will spend on the actor/esses alone, they gotta a lot to prove to their shareholders. Who are a lot of adult males themselves  |
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Polysorbate80
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At our house, the 43-year old and the 4-year old will both buy the toys and fight over who gets to play with them! In related news, the boy was listing the planets in the the solar system at preschool the other day, and included Tatooine and the Death Star in the list. My work as a parent is complete |
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Shannow
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pfft, the Death Star is a moon not a planet!
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Polysorbate80
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That's no moon.
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Shannow
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That's no moon.
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Riggswolfe
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To be honest we're probably all too old to really be able to convincingly argue about what the best direction for the IP is considering that we're all way past the target demographic anymore. All the wearyness/anger with Lucas over the 1-3 debacle hasn't stopped a whole new generation of kids from getting into the series and rather liking it. The Clone Wars CG show apparently does really good numbers, and I have to say that outside of a couple things (namely conjuring a padawan for Anakin from the bunghole of the EU) it really isn't that bad from what I've seen. We're old, people. Ahsoka didn't come from the EU, she was introduced in the cartoon. I was very iffy about her but she grew on me over the course of the series. Really, the clone wars series is better than four out of the six movies in my opinion with only Star Wars (I still call it that dang it!) and Empire beating it for quality. ETA: It never fails, the shittier episodes and shittier moments in good episodes almost always have Lucas involved in them. The producers will say something like "We were going to have this happen but George insisted we make it what you saw on the screen" with them almost always having a much better idea than what happened on the screen. |
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