Disney buying Lucasfilm

[tgr]

That actually sounds much more appealing to me than a Yoda movie.

You know, I can just imagine the flurry of yodaspeak which would accompany each yearly edition of the yoda movie (which you just know Disney would happily churn out until we puke if they got half a chance).

:shudder:

[Ingmar]

That actually sounds much more appealing to me than a Yoda movie.

You know, I can just imagine the flurry of yodaspeak which would accompany each yearly edition of the yoda movie (which you just know Disney would happily churn out until we puke if they got half a chance).

:shudder:

Because Disney totally does that with all their franchises. 

[DraconianOne]

At least the EU cleared that bit of Lucas nonsense up.

No. They just fucking ruined it along with Timothy Fucking Zahn and his fucking Hot Chocolate.

[Draegan]

Goddamnit, a Yoda movie would be bad enough, but a fucking Han Solo movie? No. Just... goddamnit, NO. Han Solo is Harrison Fucking Ford. No one else has ever played the character. No one else ever SHOULD play that character. There's just somethings too iconic to be fucked with.

Do not want.

Depending on the casting I think it'll be just fine.  But what thread wouldn't be complete about you hipstering out on something.     I'll grant that it has the potentially of being pretty devent (not good) but a greater chance of being shit.

I'm of open mind just because notlucas

[Evildrider]

I'd be all for Zachary Levi as Han Solo.   

[Paelos]

I'd be all for Zachary Levi as Han Solo.   

Nope Zach Efron. 

[Venkman]

At least the EU cleared that bit of Lucas nonsense up.

Perfect example of the EU being garbage.

Why? After the cleanup, and in light of how hyperspace was made to work, it actually makes sense as a bragging point. Yea yea that wasn't the original intent and they were just looking for a cool word to use and all us geeks spent our teenage years bragging about how "parsec makes no sense because that's a unit to measure display not time" and then subsequently learned that parsec is actually both distance and time and really who the fuck gives a shit anyway?

The EU stuff will be retconned to shit if there's any intent on making a compelling story that weaves together the important narratives that'll hit the mass market audience. All that kessel run/maw cluster/research complex stuff will be rewritten.

It kinda has to be. Because Han Solo pre ANH was a drug runner for slavers. That's not gonna fly as a mass market movie 

Two hours of fortune cookie dialog, can they write?  How long can they put out a movie every two or three years, and will they stop before they've driven the franchise into the ground? 

Eh. The franchise was already largely in the ground from a storytelling standpoint. I'll worry about that in six years.

[eldaec]

Back on page 4 of this thread EU-baiting was sort of fun.

Then they hired the director from Lost and Star Trek : Lens Flare, and the writer of Toy Story 3 and Little Miss Sunshine. If anyone honestly thinks these guys give a fuck about EU novels then I admire your ability to keep the faith.

[Evildrider]

I'm pretty sure all the stuff past RotJ is gonna be shitcanned in the Star Wars Disney era.

[eldaec]

It's the thing I'm looking forward to most.

[Ratman_tf]

At least the EU cleared that bit of Lucas nonsense up.

Perfect example of the EU being garbage.

Why? After the cleanup, and in light of how hyperspace was made to work, it actually makes sense as a bragging point. Yea yea that wasn't the original intent and they were just looking for a cool word to use and all us geeks spent our teenage years bragging about how "parsec makes no sense because that's a unit to measure display not time" and then subsequently learned that parsec is actually both distance and time and really who the fuck gives a shit anyway?

Because it's not a mistake. I quote the holy 4th edition revision of the screenplay, as published by Ballantine Books in 1979:

HAN
It’s the ship that made the Kessel
run in less than twelve parsecs!

Ben reacts to Solo’s stupid attempt to impress them with obvious misinformation.

Emphasis mine.

http://starwarz.com/starkiller/2010/03/star-wars-public-version-of-fourth-draft/

And then the EU goes and overthinks a very simple line. Because that's what the EU does. There is nothing, NOTHING about Star Wars that doesn't get scrutinized by the EU, sucking any cool or fun out of it.
That Lucas himself goes in for the unnecessary retcon, I blame on his general decline in the time he made the prequels.

[Tannhauser]

Yeah, never understood the confusion.  Ben was supposed to react to the parsec line and Guiness downplayed it.  But he did shoot Solo a 'ni**a please' glance.

As for the EU, I've read 'The Courtship of Princess Leia' and the first third of the Thrawn book and my opinion firmly is fuck the EU.

[Sir T]

I'm shocked, shocked that Han Solo, murderer smuggler and thief, would LIE to a prospective client.

[Merusk]

It's the thing I'm looking forward to most.

Agreed.

The EU stuff will be retconned to shit if there's any intent on making a compelling story that weaves together the important narratives that'll hit the mass market audience. All that kessel run/maw cluster/research complex stuff will be rewritten.

Already happened.  The prequels killed all of the "omg I am a freed Stormtrooper" backgrounds (Handwaving about there being recruits after the battle on Kashyyyk are the EU trying to shore itself up.  Lucas said they're all clones, maybe not ideal candidates because of politicization, but still clones.)  Maw Complex was killed by the AOTC and the end scene of ROTS.  The exposition on the Clone Wars has killed ALL of the Thrawn story, since - y'know - the Clone Wars refers to the use of them, not a war against replicants with a penchant for extra vowels in their names and there's no implication of "Force Madness" that require anti-force worms to create good clones.

Everything else deemed "canon" by the EU, from Cortosis to the Grey Force are eligible for being jettisoned.  They're not chasing the 30-50 geek crowd, they've got your money. They're after our kids who'll be the next 30 years of purchasing.

[Yegolev]

Han Solo is Harrison Fucking Ford.

There is nothing, NOTHING about Star Wars that doesn't get scrutinized by the EU, sucking any cool or fun out of it.

I think this thread is also doing this.

[RhyssaFireheart]

I must be the only person around who enjoyed the EU, at least at the beginning.  It started really going off the rails for me in later books like the YuzongVongwhatevertheywerenamed guys showed up.

[Merusk]

I must be the only person around who enjoyed the EU, at least at the beginning.  It started really going off the rails for me in later books like the YuzongVongwhatevertheywerenamed guys showed up.

You're also talking about an old and narrow window.  Zahn's books kicked-off the big-time EU in 1991. The first Vong book was in 1999.  An 8 year window that ended almost double that timeframe ago (14 years?! zomg.)

Sucks getting old, eh?

I think this thread is also doing this.

There is nothing the right geek can't kill the joy of.

[Draegan]

I would be happy if Disney came out and said, "EU?  What the fuck is that?  Get the fuck out of here with that stupid fan shite.  Here's a Mickey T-Shirt."  Then, if they took it a step further and burned the copies of the prequels and never released them again and then instituted a buy back of the DVDs at double the cost of the original price, and then gave everyone a coupon for free popcorn to make up the price of the movie tickets... I'd ... well I don't know what I'd do, but that would be fucking hilarious.

[Ironwood]

I must be the only person around who enjoyed the EU, at least at the beginning.  It started really going off the rails for me in later books like the YuzongVongwhatevertheywerenamed guys showed up.

No.  I loved Zhan's books and thought they were really well done (for what they were).

The others that came later were pretty meh, but I liked The Han Solo trilogy and could even stomach the Bounty Hunter Trilogy.

I stopped before the Vong and, frankly, I'm glad I did.  It all sounded like utter wank.  I think this is the problem - When these things gain critical mass, they just pull in any old writers and before you know it you're thinking that Kevin J Anderson is actually a writer and letting him touch pen or paper.  The Fucking Useless Cunt.

It was the same when they used to write the Star Trek novels.  Most of them were actually ok, especially those by Diane Duane, but there was an awful lot of Fan Wank from people who just wanted to write themselves into Star Trek or see shitty stories put in there.  See, Spocks Son, or Securty Guard Stanger or, worst of all, Stanger turning into a vampire.  God that one was FUCKING AWFUL.  And the Sackers.  God, the Sackers.  Jeeeesus.

Anyway.

[Draegan]

You read something like that?  Dude.

[HaemishM]

Die.

[murdoc]

I'd totally watch a Han Solo movie.

[Khaldun]

In any event, the whole thing fascinates me because it's probably one of the few cases ever where almost everyone is saying, "Hey, a big conglomerate bought up all the IP rights to a beloved cultural icon from its original creator. THANK GOD!"

[Ingmar]

The only EU stuff I've ever cared about is the Bioware stuff, but even if they break that in their 'real' continuity, it's not like it invalidates that stuff being good. I mean I already disregard the prequels, so who cares really?

[Ironwood]

You read something like that?  Dude.

Don't you judge me.

[Simond]

The Diane Duane ST novels were pretty good (for licensed fiction) and Cryptic lifted huge chunks of her Rihannsu/Romulan stuff for STO.

No, no, this is all still on-topic. See, according to this ST novel, they run into "a scruffy-looking spice smuggler" amongst others. (Said others including original-Apollo and original-Starbuck, the Fourth Doctor, the Second Doctor, and a whole bunch of TV & film cowboys). So therefore Star Trek and Star Wars share a continuity! 

[Merusk]

Barbara Hambly.. also responsible for such Hack jobs as Children of the Jedi &  Planet of Twilight and the ridiculous Luke & "Ancient jedi spirit in another body" Callista romance.   

[Yegolev]

This sounds dangerously close to Riker/Solo fiction.

[Sir T]

I'm sure there is Greebo/solo fiction out there too.

[Ingmar]

Greebo? The cat from the Discworld novels? That's some pretty far out slash there. 

[Ironwood]

Barbara Hambly.. also responsible for such Hack jobs as Children of the Jedi &  Planet of Twilight and the ridiculous Luke & "Ancient jedi spirit in another body" Callista romance.   

Barbara Hambly can eat my suppurating ass.

This is what I'm talking about.  Hambly's just a gateway drug to harder substances, like Anderson.

[Morat20]

The Diane Duane ST novels were pretty good (for licensed fiction) and Cryptic lifted huge chunks of her Rihannsu/Romulan stuff for STO.

No, no, this is all still on-topic. See, according to this ST novel, they run into "a scruffy-looking spice smuggler" amongst others. (Said others including original-Apollo and original-Starbuck, the Fourth Doctor, the Second Doctor, and a whole bunch of TV & film cowboys). So therefore Star Trek and Star Wars share a continuity! 

Maverick was in there too. it was totally unabashed multi crosss-over fanfic. And the writer got paid for it. The main crossover was with some western TV show (aimed at families or women, not like John Wayne western. I keep wanting to say Seven Brides for Seven brothers, but that's a movie and I'm pretty sure not what it was).

John Ford wrote "The Final Reflection" which was so goddamn good that it single-handedly created the modern Klingon. (They were black space barbarians before. Everything you saw in TNG and after? Based on that shit). He also wrote "How Much for Just the Planet" which is hilarious.

Then there was, i believe, at least one triliogy of flat out Spock/Kirk slash that got published (that didn't DO anything, but it wasn't exactly subtle. It was brick to the face). Then at some point, probably around the time of ST IV and the green-lighting of TNG, they got a little more serious about it. A little bit.

[Ironwood]

How much for just the planet was rather delicious.

I liked The IDIC Epidemic, but it read like it was written in San Francisco or something.

[Cyrrex]

Barbara Hambly.. also responsible for such Hack jobs as Children of the Jedi &  Planet of Twilight and the ridiculous Luke & "Ancient jedi spirit in another body" Callista romance.   

Barbara Hambly can eat my suppurating ass.

This is what I'm talking about.  Hambly's just a gateway drug to harder substances, like Anderson.

I find Hambly to be far worse than Anderson.  But then, your hatred of Anderson is so extreme that it seems to send you into some kind of boiling, inexplicable rage that must soon result in a restraining order of some kind.  While I don't exactly love his stuff, I don't quite get it.  Also, it is likely that Vonda McIntyre (sp?) is worse than both of them put together, times 400. 

[Ironwood]

The only one I can find for her is Crystal Star, which I'm not sure I've read.  I'd have to be reminded of what the fuck it was about again.

She wrote The Entropy Effect, which I vaguely remember as being pish.

Anderson wrote the Jedi Academy stuff.  It was hackery of the highest order.