Obsidian's "Pillars of Eternity"

[Ironwood]

Turns out my character has NOT been affected yet by the stats bug.  The reason I have a -1 in the stats is that if you jiggle your stats around, then pick your 'bonus background' and then go back and jiggle and then change and then jiggle, eventually, you won't know what the fuck you've given.

And it will take a minus out of a stat you thought was an even number.

So watch out for that kids.  Friends don't let friends play about with a character;  think once and then FUCKING LIVE WITH IT.

 

[WayAbvPar]

Everyone please complain to Obsidian and Steam and tell them you will only be satisfied with a patch and then an immediate Steam sale for ~$20. TIA.

[schild]

Remember when I said I don't give Paradox money because everything they release is riddled with bugs. And then people said that's crazy.

Is it?

is it crazy?

[Trippy]

I'm shocked that an Obsidian game was released full of bugs.

[schild]

 

[Lucas]

Latest about the patch (exact day still undecided; still scheduled for this week):

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/74083-is-there-communication-regarding-patching/?p=1618422
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/74083-is-there-communication-regarding-patching/?p=1618462

[Yegolev]

Remember when I said I don't give Paradox money because everything they release is riddled with bugs. And then people said that's crazy.

Is it?

is it crazy?

It is not crazy.  You're talking to the crazy people here.  I'd bet you a sum of American money that they do, in fact, remember Knights of the Old Republic II yet still get hard dicks thinking about how awesome this game will be now that Obsidian is "free" to do what they wanted all along.  Which, I would wager, is perform half-ass game development.

Also, the more reasonable ones remember you have avoided Dying Light simply because of the intro movie and so you maintain an aura of suspicious motive.

[Senses]

I've yet to encounter any bugs.

[Ceryse]

Remember when I said I don't give Paradox money because everything they release is riddled with bugs. And then people said that's crazy.

Is it?

is it crazy?

I've yet to experience any. Besides, I wouldn't blame Paradox so much as the fact it is an Obsidian game.

And to Yegolev... I've never played KotOR 2 (and not much of 1.. although this is mainly because I despise Star Wars more than anything else). I will, however, admit to being crazy. That is just a simple fact I'm quite comfortable with.

[lamaros]

Personally, I haven't complained about bugs because.. well, I haven't experienced any. I never double-clicked equipment, so never got that bug (for which there's a work around unless it happens to the pc). Never had the permament buff bug, because I've never buffed, saved, loaded. Never had a ranger bug because the D&D games taught me to never play a ranger. Didn't get stuck anywhere or anything. Didn't even get the Act 2 quest line bug with the three factions (which is related to the Winds of Steel knights quest).

Didn't even try to avoid them, just never got them, so nothing to complain about. The patch this week should help a lot of these (and, knowing Obsidian, create some new interesting ones), but I haven't put off playing waiting for it (just because I haven't had time, sadly).

Ditto. The bugs thing is massively overstated. There are a couple very specific and very easily avoided ones that I'd not know about apart from the Internet, and the game is otherwise bug free (to date).

The Act 2 quest thing isn't a bug, just a poorly communicated story commitment.

[Zane0]

Remember when I said I don't give Paradox money because everything they release is riddled with bugs. And then people said that's crazy.

Is it?

is it crazy?

It is not crazy.  You're talking to the crazy people here.  I'd bet you a sum of American money that they do, in fact, remember Knights of the Old Republic II yet still get hard dicks thinking about how awesome this game will be now that Obsidian is "free" to do what they wanted all along.  Which, I would wager, is perform half-ass game development.

Also, the more reasonable ones remember you have avoided Dying Light simply because of the intro movie and so you maintain an aura of suspicious motive.

Give me nothing but half-assed game development please if it means something like kotor 2 again and again. Although this particular devil's bargain is irrelevant since poe is actually a p. clean product.

[Malakili]

kotor 2 was not kotor 1.

[Teleku]

Kotor 2 was better than kotor 1 in every way except for the rushed story/final.

Paradox is perhaps he only game company Im comfortable giving money to, since everybody else sucks now.

Some other contradictory statement.

[Merusk]

My bugs have been pretty minor gripes. I gave 'em $20 for the kickstarter so it doesn't bother me.

Keep Simonding the thread though. it delivers.  

[Lucas]

If you want to keep playing before the patch, here's a nice summary of what you must pay attention to (good especially for those who want to start over right nao):

http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/74236-should-i-wait-until-the-patch-fixes-said-gamebreaking-bugs/?p=1618876

Okay:
 
Don't double-click to equip.
 
Don't save and load the game in a location where you recruited a companion.
 
Save regularly and don't overwrite your saves, you want to be able to back up if you hit a problem.  Probably not a terrible idea to occasionally copy the save folder over somewhere else.
 
If you equip any items that boost stats, keep an eye on the person wearing them that the stat in question isn't having its base value increased beyond where it should be over time.
 
Avoid the Drinking Horn of Moderation amulet.
 
Maybe avoid rangers for the time being; their animal companions can disappear and apparently remain disappeared across all your saves, preventing you from moving between areas.
 
Make sure you have a proper save before going to Raedric's Hold, as well as before entering the Sanitarium.
 
If you are playing a goody two shoes benevolent type, don't do the quest that starts with a godlike woman called Pallegina saying something to you, it'll end up broken.

I think there are at least two more:

- "Plague of Insects" spell cast by enemy druids (already mentioned by Calapine):
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/73407-plague-of-insects-with-infinite-duration/#entry1618648

- Be sure that the Priest spell "Holy Power" is not affecting your characters while you're transitioning or resting (another stat accumulation bug?)
http://forums.obsidian.net/topic/72413-durance-insane-stats/page-2#entry1618828

[Khaldun]

No bugs for me. I have a ranger in the party, I've been in and out of Raedric's Hold and the Sanitarium.

[Samprimary]

Kotor 2 was better than kotor 1 in every way except for the rushed story/final.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9LgUXdxkE0

[Ironwood]

I never ever managed to get into KOTOR 2.  Played the shit out of 1, but 2 just didn't do it for me...

I'm still enjoying the hell out of this and now that I've found that it's just a poor character creator I should have watched out for, I'm cool with it.

But a patch should come quick, given that list...

[lamaros]

Not sure how far in I am after the first main city. I hope there's still more fun to come.

[Sophismata]

Unfortunately we are unable to add new strings into the game at this point. These may get changed in future releases, but at the moment just look at the effects portion of the spell description.

This is in relation to certain spell descriptions being incorrect, which will not be addressed in the patch.

[Jeff Kelly]

Depending on how many languages they need to support for text this might actually be too much of a hassle to add if they want to get out everything else they need to fix quickly.

[lamaros]

Is rogue backstab ever useful? I cant recall ever getting very close to an enemy before being revealed, even with decent stealth. Stealth seems useless?

[Ruvaldt]

My main character is a bow-wielding rogue and I'm able to use it on a pretty regular basis.  You still have to get in pretty close, but it's a great way to thin an encounter quickly with a big opening shot.  Still, it isn't as useful as some other Rogue talents.

[Khaldun]

Stealth to me is mostly useful when I want to path through an area and avoid a few encounters--even a party with a few weak stealth people can path through parts of Raedric's Hold, for example, without aggroing everything. It lets you target select too. But yeah, characters with super high stealth still don't seem able to get around an NPC to deliver a bit alphastrike backstab, mostly.

[Ironwood]

I find when combat starts, stealth fails for everyone.  Am I doing it wrong ?

[Signe]

Yes, when combat starts my stealth fails and I can't go stealthy again.  I can't seem to sneak up on anyone at all.  I think maybe we just need more points in stealth? 

[Miasma]

Backstab is probably only useful if you also take the talent that lets you turn invisible during combat.

Combat breaks party stealth but if a rogue is the one who starts combat (from stealth) they get a pretty strong opening attack.

[rk47]

Is rogue backstab ever useful? I cant recall ever getting very close to an enemy before being revealed, even with decent stealth. Stealth seems useless?

just pull out an arbalest or aquerbus in sneak attack.
blam. you just hit the guy for 75 dmg.

[Montague]

Is rogue backstab ever useful? I cant recall ever getting very close to an enemy before being revealed, even with decent stealth. Stealth seems useless?

just pull out an arbalest or aquerbus in sneak attack.
blam. you just hit the guy for 75 dmg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JulJxOIfPYo

[Tannhauser]

Is rogue backstab ever useful? I cant recall ever getting very close to an enemy before being revealed, even with decent stealth. Stealth seems useless?

just pull out an arbalest or aquerbus in sneak attack.
blam. you just hit the guy for 75 dmg.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JulJxOIfPYo

True gamer moment, he swigs from a 2-liter.

[rk47]

Sneak Attack
Uses the rogue's ability to approach unseen, adding additional bonus damage to their attacks when the target is Blinded, Flanked, Hobbled, Paralyzed, Petrified, Prone, Stuck, Stunned or Weakened, as well as when any target is struck within two seconds of combat starting.

You can easily set up prone with Fighter's Knockdown > Followed up with said rogue shooting.
Within 2 seconds of Combat is easy too with ranged weapons.

[tmp]

Flanked is easy to get too, as long as the rogue isn't the one tanking. Just give it couple seconds for the engagement ranges to establish so the targets won't run around, then walk up to them from the back/side. Commence stabbing.

[Ironwood]

Aye, that's all very well, but Stealth has no place in combat beyond the first hit.

[MrHat]

Aye, that's all very well, but Stealth has no place in combat beyond the first hit.

Agreed.  Sneak attack is different than stealth/backstab though.

I ended up foregoing backstab and ending up just with a high damage fighter because of the sneak attack bonus.

Does make me wish I just ran with my barbarian though.

Most fights are stealth around looking at bad guys, then send in the fighter to grab 4 guys for engagement (mace + talents + modal), then open up the ranged barrage followed by a bunch of spells and the rogue on the spellcaster.  Works pretty well.

[rk47]

Hunter's mark don't work as advertised.
+20 bonus damage to pet & ranger vs Marked Target is very unlikely.




This class is just sad.
I think it's likely I get +20% bonus damage against but it's not showing on the combat log, so yeah..another bug.