Chris Roberts Back in your wallet - STAR CITIZEN

[Merusk]

Not quite, because "Limited Quantities Still Available" moves things faster. The hard part is laying the groundwork to justify why you have limited amounts of a digital good. They've done that whole hog.

[WayAbvPar]

Pure evil greed. Gordon Gecko would blush.

[jakonovski]

It's like they studied every single predatory psychological angle they could in order to extract cash from people.

Gotta spend money to make money!

[Lantyssa]

To be fair, idiots were asking them for these things, and when they priced them as ridiculously expensive as expected, people still bought them.

[Sky]

Yeah, seems like a typical move from his bag of tricks.

I read that as 'bag of dicks' and I'm still chuckling to myself.

Watching the No Man's Sky footage makes me want that game to be good just to shove it to Dmart and RSI.

[HaemishM]

To be fair, idiots were asking them for these things, and when they priced them as ridiculously expensive as expected, people still bought them.

"What do you mean they bought them at $18k? FUCK, we priced it too low!!!!"

PT Barnum would be proud.

[MahrinSkel]

Yeah, it's the "vaporware" part of that I am boggling on. That people spend stupid amounts of money on virtual game goods is well established. Although I shake my head that people spend hundreds of dollars on "gold" mechs in MWO, it doesn't surprise me. But this is like tulipmania levels of crazy-stupid money throwing. It would be healthier to dump it on hookers and blow, at least you'd have some great stories to tell in the homeless shelter.

--Dave

[Yegolev]

I'm sure these stories will also be fantastic.

[Merusk]

Yes, but to a much smaller crowd at the shelter.

[Furiously]

Yes, but to a much smaller crowd at the shelter.

I think you meant asylum...

[penfold]

Yeah, it's the "vaporware" part of that I am boggling on. That people spend stupid amounts of money on virtual game goods is well established. Although I shake my head that people spend hundreds of dollars on "gold" mechs in MWO, it doesn't surprise me. But this is like tulipmania levels of crazy-stupid money throwing. It would be healthier to dump it on hookers and blow, at least you'd have some great stories to tell in the homeless shelter.

--Dave

Yeah, stupid people by stupid expensive massively overpriced luxury shit all the time. We've all seen $21,000 speaker cables, and Apple Watches.

but you get something for your stupid money, be it a soon to be obsolete gadget in gold case or about a meter of umm... silver.  Star Citizen is the first to successfully sell luxury virtual vapor. No, let me rephrase that. Star Citizen looks to be the first legitimate operation to sell luxury virtual vapor,  all the other cases I can think of are frauds.

[Merusk]

Yes, but to a much smaller crowd at the shelter.

I think you meant asylum...

No, it's the US. We don't lock our insane into crowded, inhumane cells. We raise them free-range, thanks to St. Ronnie! 

[Sky]

See this shocking company that took vaping TOO FAR!

[IainC]

Yeah, it's the "vaporware" part of that I am boggling on. That people spend stupid amounts of money on virtual game goods is well established. Although I shake my head that people spend hundreds of dollars on "gold" mechs in MWO, it doesn't surprise me. But this is like tulipmania levels of crazy-stupid money throwing. It would be healthier to dump it on hookers and blow, at least you'd have some great stories to tell in the homeless shelter.

--Dave

Yeah, stupid people by stupid expensive massively overpriced luxury shit all the time. We've all seen $21,000 speaker cables, and Apple Watches.

but you get something for your stupid money, be it a soon to be obsolete gadget in gold case or about a meter of umm... silver.  Star Citizen is the first to successfully sell luxury virtual vapor. No, let me rephrase that. Star Citizen looks to be the first legitimate operation to sell luxury virtual vapor,  all the other cases I can think of are frauds.

Not the first. Also Second Life.

[Fabricated]

lol, Smart showed up in the Star Citizen thread on SA for like 5 seconds.

[IainC]

lol, Smart showed up in the Star Citizen thread on SA for like 5 seconds.

I like that someone paid for him to get a custom avatar and title pretty much immediately.



The 'click here to see my impotent legal threats' link goes here btw.

[Falconeer]

"Then Google Alerts happened, and changed everything. I set it up to scan for my name, my products etc. And each day when I get a report, I’d filter the less interesting ones, pick the good (usually in forums where I visited - and not yet banned) ones, head over there, pour virtual gasoline everywhere, torch the place with confounding rhetoric - then leave. It was like a virtual drive-by flaming. And usually, I never even go back to the topic."

Source: Serek Dmart, on his blog yesterday.

[Samwise]

The 'click here to see my impotent legal threats' link goes here btw.

Sweet merciful Christ that man is a looney tune.

[Shannow]

I haven't given a red cent to this game and I'm being entertained.

[schild]

His net worth exceeds everything Star Citizen has made guys. Guys? Guys? Is anyone even listening?

Shame money can't buy him some class.

[schild]

As a human being, he's always been a source of amusement for me because we actually stand on the same side of the fence for a lot of these things, except he is what I would be if I were full-blown retarded pants on head stupid.

He's like the opposite end of the spectrum from Molyneux or Koster.

[Lucas]

New weekly update about the FPS module (includes a brief video showing VFX and a poll):

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14829-Star-Marine-Status-Update

[jakonovski]

So...fps where the guns aren't done yet? Yeah, it's never coming out either.

[Samwise]

I like how the most pressing issue on the table is what the gun sights should look like.

When are they adding the Deck Chair Rearrangement Module?

[Khaldun]

We are sorry to announce another delay as we needed to improve the aglets on the boots of some of the Star Marines. We didn't feel the aglets were properly modeled and will need at least another six months of playtesting in all stages of Star Marine animation.

[KallDrexx]

Wait, so they are agonizing over gun sights and have blockers around things like recoil tweaking taking too much art time, yet they went ahead nad implemented environment destruction.

Good to see they have their priorities straight.

[Ginaz]

Attention: Star Marine has been delayed even more indefinitely because we have come to the conclusion that the boot laces need improving and don't accurately reflect our vision for the game.  Further testing of said bootlaces should take 9-12 months.  Thank you for your patience.  In the meantime, please buy this internet spaceship for $36k.  Why is it $36k?  Well, because we were shocked people bought them at $18k so we figured we might have priced them too low and are confident some suckers, errr, backers will buy it for double the price of the last "deal".  Hurry now!  Limit time offer!  Limited supply, too, because there's only so many 1s and 0s we have left in stock.

[KallDrexx]

Attention: Star Marine has been delayed even more indefinitely because we have come to the conclusion that the boot laces need improving and don't accurately reflect our vision for the game.  Further testing of said bootlaces should take 9-12 months.  Thank you for your patience.  In the meantime, please buy this internet spaceship for $36k.  Why is it $36k?  Well, because we were shocked people bought them at $18k so we figured we might have priced them too low and are confident some suckers, errr, backers will buy it for double the price of the last "deal".  Hurry now!  Limit time offer!  Limited supply, too, because there's only so many 1s and 0s we have left in stock.

You forgot that they needed to create a poll to see what the community thought of the boot laces before proceeding 

[Xuri]

Wait, so they are agonizing over gun sights and have blockers around things like recoil tweaking taking too much art time, yet they went ahead nad implemented environment destruction.

Good to see they have their priorities straight.

This sounds a bit like when people complain about an MMO developer fixing clipping issues with armors while there are still PvP bugs in code, tbh. Work done on one of these does not block work on the other. :P

[Lantyssa]

You want reason in this thread?  It's all doom, hyperbole, and laughs.

At this point all you can do is wait and watch while trying not to step in front of the hate train.  (Monorail-red panda coming through!  Watch for headbutts.  choo choo!)

[jakonovski]

We are the Merkel to Star Citizen's Greece.

[Khaldun]

You want reason in this thread?  It's all doom, hyperbole, and laughs.

At this point all you can do is wait and watch while trying not to step in front of the hate train.  (Monorail-red panda coming through!  Watch for headbutts.  choo choo!)

I...

I just can't see defending anything that is selling $18,000 virtual spaceships especially if the game in question isn't live already and has at least some prospect of never being live.

There's a reason Serek Dmart weighed into all this--Star Citizen is making almost the same promises he made for his Battlecruiser dingus, only that really was just him and some guys, with nowhere near the resources. We all thought it was funny then because of the hubris and self-deception involved, but at least he wasn't combining his folly with ruining people's lives.

It might be that this will eventually be a real thing, and that it will even be fun. It will never, can never, live up to the promises being made for the money being taken. Cheering for Star Citizen is like cheering for someone who cheats an old widow out of her savings by promising to take her to see Paris.

[HaemishM]

There's a reason Serek Dmart weighed into all this--Star Citizen is making almost the same promises he made for his Battlecruiser dingus, only that really was just him and some guys, with nowhere near the resources. We all thought it was funny then because of the hubris and self-deception involved, but at least he wasn't combining his folly with ruining people's lives.

Will no one think of those poor poor soda machines?

[Lantyssa]

I'm not cheering it on.  I mean, I do want it to produce a good game because I like playing good games, but I have no illusions about the risks and some of the bizarre stuff that's come out of all this.

There's just so much cluess fanboi versus gloomy cynic that it's hard to take anyone seriously.

[Jeff Kelly]

But it's OK. Those are all grown ups and if they are too stupid or have mental issues then fuck them. Right?