Chris Roberts Back in your wallet - STAR CITIZEN

[Paelos]

Hehe. The people that wrote those articles and blogs are probably into star citizen for a couple of grand and desperately need to convince themselves that they backed the right horse. So they try to make the other guys look bad.

The amount of cognitive dissonance on this project could fill the Grand Canyon.

[Pennilenko]

Remember how 38 Studios felt early on? Yeah, this is beginning to feel like that.

[schild]

Hahahahaha, this is way worse than 38 Studios.

[Miasma]

[jakonovski]

Approaching an average of $100 paid per user. 

[Venkman]

Shit, they should register as a religion.

[jakonovski]

Perhaps a system of tithing. 5% of your income and you will get THESE GREAT IN GAME BENEFITS.

[UnSub]

I keep reading articles that basically say, "With all the money SC is getting, they can afford to hire all the people they need to deliver a much bigger game on a much wider scope than they initially said!".

It's going to be Star Wars: The Old Republic all over again. Except this time the customers paid up front.

I totally disagree. SWTOR delivered a playable, functional product. It wasn't what they expected, but it's not a bad game by any stretch of the imagination. This is going to be a total clusterfuck of epic proportions where they may deliver on 15% of the shit they promised before Curt Schilling this thing into the ground.

Didn't expect that to cause a derail. 

Anyway, what I meant in more depth was that SWOR was a title with a huge budget and lots of industry talent, plus an active fanbase who would advocate at any opportunity that lots of dollars + experienced developers + the ability to hire whoever they wanted to meet their project scope + a popular sci-fi IP would absolutely guarantee that the game would be fantastic and deliver on all promises.

It wasn't true then and I don't hold it to be true here. Especially because SC is promising a more complex game than SWOR did.

[Maven]

They're making more money off the hype and the hopes and dreams of its player base than the actual product will ever deliver. I wonder how many jaded gamers this will create.

Hopefully nobody else follows this pre-order strategy!

[kildorn]

It is kind of funny that with absolutely stupid levels of funding they still seem to be trailing Elite pretty hard in "usable product" measurements.

I have high hopes for Star Citizen, but I have no intention of giving them any money given the current pricing and monetization model. The ship pricing is simply absurd.

[Simond]

Why is it funny? Freelancer was just a dumbed-down version of Elite in the first place. 

[Lucas]

I haven't watched the Gamescom conference, but anyway, here's the new stuff they unveiled:

-Hangars getting a facelift (includes a more detailed look at the so called "asteroid hangar", which is yet to be released):
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14084-New-Hangar-Teaser

- Racing (its in-fiction implementation is called "Murray Cup) will be included in Arena Commander v. 0.9. Teaser video:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14083-Racing-Will-Be-Available-In-Version-09

- FPS module: very brief teaser. It will be fully unveiled at PAX Australia:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14085-FPS-Teaser

- Finally, here's the commercial for the Constellation, one of the most recognizable and mentioned SC ships, and its variants:
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/14080-The-2945-RSI-Constellation-Lineup

[Miasma]

Holy crap, this weekend's 'donations' are going to be insane.  Every single diehard supporter has a constellation and they will all buy upgrades, many will buy extra ships to apply different upgrades.  This is the expensive 'do everything' ship so a lot of people who don't own one will buy.  And they put out an ad for it.  Oh wow.

If this is a ponzi scheme we will know buy the end of the week because this would be the coup de grace.

[ajax34i]

If this is a ponzi scheme we will know by the end of the week because this would be the coup de grace.

Uh, we already know.

[Paelos]

If this is a ponzi scheme we will know by the end of the week because this would be the coup de grace.

Uh, we already know.

Yeah see page 21 back in November when we called it a Ponzi scheme.

[WayAbvPar]

If this is a ponzi scheme we will know by the end of the week because this would be the coup de grace.

Uh, we already know.

This.

[Miasma]

No no no, all lies.  There has been a constant argument over whether this is a ponzi scheme or a pyramid scheme.  It is important to set the record straight.  I am firmly in the ponzi camp.

[schild]

It's not a pyramid scheme. It's not structured as one. It's a ponzi scheme.

[satael]

I think it's a religious cult and will soon file for a tax exemption status (and as a religion noone will complain when their version of the day of rapture is mysteriously delayed due to some mistake in calculating the divine date).

[Jeff Kelly]

Wasn't the consensus that it is neither because for it to be a pyramid scheme or a Ponzi scheme at least a few early backers would need to profit not just Chris Roberts himself?

50 million dollars plus whatever he could get from interested publishers and his own money (jk, not likely), that's a AAA budget. This is either a 'let me sell you the possibility of you owning a virtual bridge in space in a few months' type of scam or the biggest clusterfuck since Outpost.

Yet he still gets press from all kinds of mainstream and gamer media as part of their gamescom coverage.

[KallDrexx]

They broke $50m raised, averaging ~$96 per donator so far.

[Miasma]

The weekend of the constellation begins.

[Samwise]

[tmp]

The weekend of the constellation begins.

I must be reading that graph wrong. Because it seems like over 400k collected in one day, but at this point that'd be the Old Gods level insane.

[Miasma]

That's one day, half of which news of the constellation hadn't been known yet.

[Comstar]

$400,000 in a DAY after a single crappy Promethus style trailer that shows nothing of the game and isn't even a good cut scene?!!

I want to the read the inside story of the company once it goes bust.

[schild]

It'll never go bust. It'll just be Chris Roberts in a room after he fires everybody masturbating onto a giant pile of plastic 3d printed spaceships in a pool of donor's tears.

[Rendakor]

It'll never go bust. It'll just be Chris Roberts in a room after he fires everybody masturbating onto a giant pile of plastic 3d printed spaceships in a pool of donor's tears money.

FIFY

[schild]

It'll never go bust. It'll just be Chris Roberts in a room after he fires everybody masturbating onto a giant pile of plastic 3d printed spaceships in a pool of donor's tears money.

FIFY

No you didn't! You know that shitbag has converted them into motherfucking bitcoins!

[Miasma]

Remember these are seperate 24 hour periods, not cumulative.



Honestly, not as much as I was expecting.

[Jeff Kelly]

The FBI should probably start investigating them for money laundering. That's bit coin like stuff now.

[Maven]

Something stinks.

[Paelos]

Something stinks.

What tipped you off?

[Pennilenko]

Earlier in the thread I posted about a guy who spent a lot of money on this. I had a beer with him and a friend today. He came clean. He has spent about $18,500 so far. We suggested that he seek professional help ASAP.

[Trippy]

Is that at or near the max you can spend so far or is there even more he can buy?