Chris Roberts Back in your wallet - STAR CITIZEN

[Malakili]

People just believe that Star Citizen is the sandbox to end all sandboxes that they've been waiting for the last decade or more.  People are willing to pay thousands for that apparently.

[Margalis]

Beginning to covet game development as a tightly-guarded process kept away from the unwashed masses.

Game development or monetization model development?

The game part of Star Citizen is basically an afterthought.

[Paelos]

I love this game. It's like PT Barnum, the MMO.

[Hoax]

This thread really should be in the MMO forum. This clusterfuck cult shit fits that place so much better than PC/console.

[jakonovski]

Massively Multipayer

[Falconeer]

Categories here on f13 are so completely random. Elite: Dangerous is a MMO by scope, features and nature, Braben said so in an interview a few days ago. Same for Star Citizen, and still they are here while World of Tanks is there.

[schild]

Categories here aren't random at all. Where things are placed is dictated by the person who made the thread.

Besies, "MMO by scope" literally means nothing.

[Typhon]

I think this is my favorite conversation on f13, and it's just been too damn long!   

[Margalis]

This thread really should be in the MMO forum. This clusterfuck cult shit fits that place so much better than PC/console.

Correct me if I'm wrong but AFAIK the multiplayer isn't working yet at all.

[schild]

If multiplayer did work, could anything short of a Cray render more than 8 ships on screen at once anyway?

[Miasma]

They are adding a few hundred people at a time to the multiplayer client.  I doubt it works well, but yes, you can now collide your imaginary space ships into theirs.

[Falconeer]

This girl is playing it multiplayer right now if you are curious.
Not sure about the player cap at the moment.


http://www.twitch.tv/nyaandere

[Nija]

They are adding a few hundred people at a time to the multiplayer client.  I doubt it works well, but yes, you can now collide your imaginary space ships into theirs.

I'd be really surprised if they had collision working correctly.

Let me restate that.

I'd be surprised if they had accurate collision working correctly.

[Miasma]

Tried to patch for the first time in months.  I don't like their patcher because it downloads multiple patches one after another and doesn't bother to tell you what the total download will be.  After I eventually download everything I get an error message about a metafile which stops me from playing.  I click the repair button and it does some things for a while then I notice it is downloading another twelve gigs for some reason...  I stop it.  Restart the patcher and now it thinks all is well and lets me press launch.  It opens a window, that isn't full screen, and just hangs with a black screen.  Happens a few times in a row.  I click the 'support' link in the launcher, this brings me to a web page complaining that I don't have the permissions to view it.  I go to their site myself to see if there is a way to fix this problem and see similar reports from about ten days ago with no resolution or acknowledgement.

Their website crashed firefox twice.

I click repair and it again wants to download twelve gigs, essentially the whole game at this point.  I just uninstall.  I'll try again in a few more months and may as well do a fresh install.

[Mrbloodworth]

Flight Model and Input Controls

What the hell, is this new?

Not new. Not at all. Its more or less a chronicle of the development process. Parts are released on the website over time too.

[Mrbloodworth]

I'm not sure if Mr B knows what 'invested' means. His return is clearly linked to a 3000% increase in the amount of 'everything is great' and arguing with other posters.

I Haven't Invested in anything. I Pledged to get a game I have always wanted in development.

[rk47]

This man is a shareholder too.

[Lucas]

If you want to know more about the how's and why's of the current flight model implementation in Arena Commander, you can watch the beginning of yesterday's weekly "10 for the Chairman" segment, from about the 3:10 mark 'til the 16:00 mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpHGEtOXFvE

In addition, here's the long post Chris Roberts mentions, "Flight Model and Input Controls":

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13951-Flight-Model-And-Input-Controls

EDIT: sorry, that's the post Bloodworth already linked.

[Maven]

This man is a shareholder too.

Timmy's First Game Design Feedback. Put that one on the fridge.

[calapine]

Kerbal Space Progam's Scott Manely explains the physics of Star Citzen's and Elite Dangerous's space fighter flight models by the way of Kerbal Space Progam

[Margalis]

This man is a shareholder too.

This is they issue with paying money for hopes and dreams. One guy dreams about a space sim where they have to manually control each thruster, another guy dreams a space shooter that's point and click, and they both pay large sums of money to see that dream realized.

When the game launches in 2021 a lot of people are going to feel betrayed.

[rk47]

on the other hand...

[PalmTrees]

That chair doesn't have enough back support. I could never get comfortable.

[lamaros]

I'm not sure if Mr B knows what 'invested' means. His return is clearly linked to a 3000% increase in the amount of 'everything is great' and arguing with other posters.

I Haven't Invested in anything. I Pledged to get the broad outline and unrealistic promises of a game I have always wanted in development.

No, you are invested, not you have invested. Which you have clearly illustrated.

[MisterNoisy]

So if they went to all this effort to 'accurately simulate spaceflight physics', why do their energy weapons seemingly have travel times to target more appropriate to a slingshot?

[Kitsune]

Babylon 5 got around it by saying the human ships were using plasma weaponry instead of lasers.

[Lucas]

New patch is out (12.3...682MB) :

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13955-Arena-Commander-Patch-123

First 20,000 backers are now invited in the multiplayer mode (for the record, I'm Citizen #20970; oh well :P)

[Stormwaltz]

Babylon 5 got around it by saying the human ships were using plasma weaponry instead of lasers.

Plasma weapons don't work at all. /nerd

[Thrawn]

New patch is out (12.3...682MB) :

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13955-Arena-Commander-Patch-123

First 20,000 backers are now invited in the multiplayer mode (for the record, I'm Citizen #20970; oh well :P)

Yay, I got an invite.  I'll be sure to...probably ignore it.

[Sir T]

Over/under on the beginning of the lawsuits for "not delivering promised content/your vision of perfection is not my vision that I forked over $10000 for/You lied to me/waaaa? " 

[MisterNoisy]

Over/under on the beginning of the lawsuits for "not delivering promised content/your vision of perfection is not my vision that I forked over $10000 for/You lied to me/waaaa? " 

That's going to be the only entertainment this product provides, so no way I'm taking that bet.

[Falconeer]

Let's be honest about things for a minute!

There are two things I consider surprising:

1) That at the moment the dogfighting module is boring as hell, and not just because you play against the AI. The flight model is overly simplihistic and maneuvering, aiming and killing ships is slightly more entertaining than playing a flash browser game.

2) That very few seem to care, twitch streams abound, and everyone can't wait to get into multiplayer to play this snoozefest version.


Personally, I can't wait for the snoozefest version to become a game, so I can find the fun too since I paid for it.

[Draegan]

I have access to this, but haven't bothered to download it yet. I'm waiting for Falc to say it's fun.

[Falconeer]

HAHAHA! When -and if- I'll ever say it's fun it'll probably be when everyone agrees it used to be fun but it isn't anymore. I have fucked up tastes.

[UnSub]

I really do appreciate that after years of MMO development disasters, the gaming industry learned nothing and has actually gone backwards by getting players to pay up first for a title that is due out sometime in the future (well, maybe due out, if the company doesn't collapse / implode first).

And yet it has happened, because indie - publisher + nostalgia.