X-Men: Days of Future Past

[Khaldun]

Just out of curiosity, are either of you familiar with the original story in the comics?

I'm vaguely familiar with it. It's been awhile and I don't think I read it all anyway. I know enough to be annoyed that they are using Logan and not Kitty, but whatevs. It looks like I have to resign myself to the fact that Wolverine is always going to squeeze screen time away from the other characters.

I'm thinking that being involved somehow in the Cuban missile crisis is probably going to be enough to flip out both superpowers and make Bolivar Trask's Sentinels look like a great idea. The interesting question will be, "What's Trask's beef with mutants?"

[jgsugden]

I read it a long time ago and reviewed the wiki page when they announced the story - but I expect this movie to have as much in common with that DoFP as Avengers had to do with the Ultimates, as B vs. S will have to do with Dark Knight Returns, as IM III had to do with the Extremis comic books, as X-men 3 had to do with the Dark Pkoenix saga, etc... 

Inspired by, but massively reworked.  They'll hold the key elements: Time Travel, Sentinels, etc... but rework a lot to fit their continuity and to modernize it to play off the modern fears rather than the fears of the 80s.

[Hutch]

I never saw X3. Was Kitty Pryde ever established as a movie character, with screen time and lines?

[jgsugden]

Yes, she was - by Ellen Page.  However, if you're thinking that the Kitty role from the comics will be repeated on screen - nope.  We have confirmation (which you can see in that trailer) that something else goes down in the movie (although Page is back as Kitty in this movie).

[Hutch]

Right. I was asking because, in the original story, Kitty Pryde was a well-established character, and I didn't know if that was the case in the movie continuum.

That said, it's movie magic, luv. They could have probably written the tale so that Kitty is the time traveler. Ellen Page could carry it off. On the other hand, you have to write a movie that's going to mash together two already-established X teams, and give everyone enough to do so that they're not wasting their time. And, not need an intermission. More movie goers know who Logan/Wolverine is, so they put him in the central role. It probably simplified things.

[Raguel]

Just out of curiosity, are either of you familiar with the original story in the comics?

I'm vaguely familiar with it. It's been awhile and I don't think I read it all anyway. I know enough to be annoyed that they are using Logan and not Kitty, but whatevs. It looks like I have to resign myself to the fact that Wolverine is always going to squeeze screen time away from the other characters.

I'm thinking that being involved somehow in the Cuban missile crisis is probably going to be enough to flip out both superpowers and make Bolivar Trask's Sentinels look like a great idea. The interesting question will be, "What's Trask's beef with mutants?"

That's a good idea, but wouldn't the logical thing be to send Logan back in time to stop Shaw? Not that I think he has a chance of success. Storm and Iceman would be the logical choices, but they would be too young or in Bobby's case nonexistent. Going by the trailer, Xavier and Magneto are at least partially responsible for what happens, and they send Logan to talk to their younger selves after the events of First Class, not before.

[Nevermore]

It also depends on who is left in the future to send back.  In the original story (iirc), Kitty is sent back because most of the other X-Men had already been killed in the future.  It's too bad the movie is going to miss out on future Wolverine getting his flesh incinerated off his bones, leaving just his adamantium skeleton.

[Trippy]

Kitty was sent back cause it was felt her younger self would be most vulnerable to be taken over by her older self of the ones that were left.

[palmer_eldritch]

Yes, she was - by Ellen Page.  However, if you're thinking that the Kitty role from the comics will be repeated on screen - nope.  We have confirmation (which you can see in that trailer) that something else goes down in the movie (although Page is back as Kitty in this movie).

It's been a long time since I saw that film but as I recall, she was only on-screen for maybe a minute or so?

[jgsugden]

She was in it for longer than a minute or two, but she was not featured in X-3.  Also, I seem to recall she was the third Kitty, with two different girls having 'blink and you'll miss it' role moments in the first 2 movies.

[Venkman]

Wait, was she the chick who ran from Juggernaut, pulled him into the flow and then made him run into the wall? I didn't think she had mind/time-travel powers from that.

[Lakov_Sanite]

And I wouldn't think flying around the earth really, REALLY fast would make time go backwards but you know.....comics.

[Raguel]

I don't remember the details but I thought it was Rachel Summers that sent her back? Not that that is an improvement heh.

[palmer_eldritch]

Wait, was she the chick who ran from Juggernaut, pulled him into the flow and then made him run into the wall? I didn't think she had mind/time-travel powers from that.

That was her. Yeah, Kitty's never been able to travel in time or do anything similar on her own in any version, but in the comics someone else sent her mind back.

She was a major character in the comics at that time. This was after Jean Grey died  (Kitty was actually introduced shortly before Jean died but DoFP takes place later) and before Rogue joined the X-Men so she was one of the main female characters - arguably the main one as Storm didn't have much personality at that point.

[Trippy]

Wait, was she the chick who ran from Juggernaut, pulled him into the flow and then made him run into the wall? I didn't think she had mind/time-travel powers from that.

She doesn't. She was new to the X-Men at the time and didn't have any training to protect against "psychic attacks" like the other X-Men had. So the future Kitty was sent back by Rachel Summers as Raguel mentioned as they thought her present self would be most vulnerable to be taken over as I mentioned.

[Venkman]

Ah cool ok, good for context.

[01101010]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCY2UYLHG8

This is a pretty sweet piece of viral marketing.

[Cadaverine]

aaand AWISE!

So, Empire magazine is doing a series of 25 covers with past and future versions of the cast.

I'm not enthralled with any of them, but maybe they'll look better in the film.

[MuffinMan]

Interesting that Rogue is in a single scene, which Singer said was cut from the film, yet she still gets a cover.

[Raguel]

I didn't know Blink was going to be in this. Kinda disappointed in Sunspot but whatevs. He'll probably just be in one scene anyway.

Also, Quicksilver gets a cover but not Scarlet Witch? I thought they were both in?

[sickrubik]

I didn't know Blink was going to be in this. Kinda disappointed in Sunspot but whatevs. He'll probably just be in one scene anyway.

Also, Quicksilver gets a cover but not Scarlet Witch? I thought they were both in?

No. Scarlet Witch is only in Avengers. (Quicksilver is also in Avengers)

[RhyssaFireheart]

Wasn't Sunspot Japanese? They whitewash that actor or am I misremembering?

I kind of like how they're doing Quicksilver, because that silly bolt hairdo and silver longj ohns really don't translate well, do they?

[Raguel]

I didn't know Blink was going to be in this. Kinda disappointed in Sunspot but whatevs. He'll probably just be in one scene anyway.

Also, Quicksilver gets a cover but not Scarlet Witch? I thought they were both in?

No. Scarlet Witch is only in Avengers. (Quicksilver is also in Avengers)

That's too bad. I'd imagine they have the rights to Polaris and Cannonball as well. Here's to hoping they will be in Age of Apocalypse.

So I noticed that the covers sort of tell a story (or at least clue us in as to where the characters are going to be in the timeline). For some reason I thought there would only be 2 but the  Bishop, Iceman, and Colossus covers show futuristic buildings in the background. The Warpath/Blink covers are confusing. One would think that one of them is in the foreground and the other in the background but the buildings don't match, so I don't know what's up with that.

I have to agree with the "Spy-Kids", "Cory Feldman" complaints re: Quicksilver but we'll see how it works out.

Wasn't Sunspot Japanese? They whitewash that actor or am I misremembering?

I kind of like how they're doing Quicksilver, because that silly bolt hairdo and silver longj ohns really don't translate well, do they?

Sunspot is "Afro-Brazilian" (not sure if that's a word lol). Also far as I know he's as vulnerable as any human, which makes no sense really. Why hit something hard if it turns your hand to paste?

eta: had to look it up cuz it was bothering me too: Sunfire is the name of the Japanese mutant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunfire_(comics)

[Khaldun]

New trailer.

http://youtu.be/6acRHWnfZAE

[Raguel]

With Cap and GoTG coming this year I had just about forgotten about this. Good trailer.

[Ard]

Huh, was that Nimrod at the end there?

[Tannhauser]

Yeah, looks pretty good.  Cool to see Iceman creating his slide move thingy, very comic-booky.  Has Sony stumbled onto the Marvel formula for success? 

[Threash]

The X-men movies were successful before the whole avengers thing.

[Venkman]

That looks fantastic. And I've been glad Singer is back on it.

[DraconianOne]

Another new trailer (final? Yeah right!) Potentially gives more away than the others so caution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGZ1ds_5q-E&list=PLzzoy4zJvvICCBiM9XnjYsDtt2sfgjJmC

[01101010]

Another new trailer (final? Yeah right!) Potentially gives more away than the others so caution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGZ1ds_5q-E&list=PLzzoy4zJvvICCBiM9XnjYsDtt2sfgjJmC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsjtg7m1MMM - for those in the States...

[Thrawn]

Another new trailer (final? Yeah right!) Potentially gives more away than the others so caution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGZ1ds_5q-E&list=PLzzoy4zJvvICCBiM9XnjYsDtt2sfgjJmC

Yeah, I almost wish I hadn't watched it.  I feel like I know the entire movie plot beginning to end now.

[RhyssaFireheart]

Another new trailer (final? Yeah right!) Potentially gives more away than the others so caution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGZ1ds_5q-E&list=PLzzoy4zJvvICCBiM9XnjYsDtt2sfgjJmC

Yeah, I almost wish I hadn't watched it.  I feel like I know the entire movie plot beginning to end now.

Eh, having read the comics though (years ago, but still), nothing in there surprised me.  I mean, the whole travel back in time plot was given away in the first trailer, and of course it's not going to be easy and smooth sailing, so nothing there seemed unusual in the second trailer.

Now I'm tempted to dig my comic boxes out and reread the original storyline.

[Khaldun]

Yeah, don't watch the trailer. I stopped halfway through--it's way way way too plot-centric.

[Ironwood]

Um, ok.  I guess if you don't know the whole thing off by heart from the comics, sure.

However, I will agree that it looks like it does what too many trailers do :  Nicks most of the good stuff from the film so that you're BORED by the time you see it on the screen.