Are you done? Why?

[Malakili]

They need to modify how the skills of dex, int, and str operate across the classes, I agree.

For example, int and dex need to have higher modifiers for Barbs. I would be more likely to look at gear with some INT on it, if I knew that my All Resist modifier was higher. Also, I'd do the same with dex if it increased attack speed. There would be tradeoffs with higher damage from your main stat with other stats.

I actually prefer the way D1 did this, pump up str on your wizzy and you get to wear better armor!

They did this in Diablo 2 also, but Diablo 2s stat system was pretty horribly broken as well.  Basically, you stacked only vitality.  Maybe a bit of strength if you couldn't find an item build that could provide the necessary str, or replace strength with dex in that sentence if you were an amazon. 

There was also one build based on energy shield for sorceress which stacked energy.  But that is basically all the depth the Diablo 2 stat system had in 3 sentences.  I'm not saying Diablo 3s is perfect, but at worst they've traded one shallow stat system for another.

[Mosesandstick]

One of the bad things about D2's system is that if you played "seriously" you planned your character from level 1 based on the items you had. Pretty ass-backwards to play imo. If you didn't "care" about optimisation it probably wouldn't make such a big difference.

[waffel]

Jay Wilson to Diablo 1/2 Project Lead David Brevik: "Fuck that loser"


This was in response to some critical words David Brevik had of Diablo 3 in an interview with incgamers (website is down so here's the transcript):


 

[Ironwood]

Can you explain the credits to me ?  Why are some struck out and whatnot ?

Also, I find nothing really offensive in that article linked, to be honest and I find it odd that these public facing and professional chaps are allowing that shit on a public Facebook page.

Not really the brightest idea.

[waffel]

The arrows point to who said what, letting you know that most of them worked on Diablo 3. It also shows Brevik being thanked in the credits.

Additionally, there is a bigass shitstorm brewing in /r/diablo on reddit. Mods keep deleting posts regarding Jay Wilson's comments and people are pretty damn upset. I love me some drama in the morning.

[Ironwood]

Ah, right, and the big yellow crayon denotes people not involved in the shitstorm yet.

Cool.

I stand by what I said though :  Don't take these type of professional annoyances to Facebook.  You're just asking for trouble.

And he was right by what he said.  I think what annoys those guys on FB is that they still don't understand that what he's saying, most of the FANS are saying too.  They really need to wake up to what they made.  A big old stinking PoS.

[tazelbain]

Fuck Jay Wilson, he made a Diablo game with an Auction House the negates the point of Diablo.  Diablo 1/2 credit sold millions of boxes.  WoW sold millions more.  Very little of the success has anything with it being a good game or Jay Wilson.

[Salamok]

Yeah the AH ruins the spirit of the game, I didn't play d2 online but I played over 1000 hours of d1 online and can recall dumping massive amounts of wealth on the ground for random players just because it was meaningless and the fun was the acquisition not the retention.  And although I do remember a fair bit of greifing, that was even in good fun as well, there was virtually no epeen waving of gear back and forth because survivability and face melting goodness was equally and easily attainable by all classes.  Diablo 2 I felt was a bit grindy in comparison and Diablo 3 is obviously even worse.  I still miss the almost instant access to massive quantities of mobs I had in D1, the only empty space (other than short walks through town for supplies) was the space you had already laid waste to.

[Soulflame]

I remember Diablo I a bit differently, in that a wizard with sword and board was by far the best character, rogue was second, and warrior was a far distant third.

[schild]

I was going to write an article (yes, an article) about this comparing Activision/Blizzard to Zynga without them understanding WHY they're in the position they're in - but you all had already posted that image.

Needless to say, Blizzard deserves a slow death and at this point they don't know how to make anything other than a shitty skinner box with RMT attached.

[Ironwood]

I'd still be interested in that article.

Go to it and good luck.

[amiable]

What's so comical and sad about this is that Blizzard really had a money press here, all they had to do was upgrade graphics and keep the core gameplay (polished to a mirrored sheen which they are supposedly known for).  Somehow they fucked this up and killed all that was fun in D1 and D2 in an attempt to even make more money.  It's really unbelievable hubris.

[Merusk]

(polished to a mirrored sheen which they are supposedly known for). 

Those people either aren't with the company anymore or weren't on this project.  What you're witnessing is a bunch of also-rans who got hired on to the rockstar-status developer and are buying in to the accolades thrown at them for it. They're standing on the backs of giants and thinking they got there themselves.  What credits does Wilson have to his name?  Oh right, just this one as a Lead.  He was hired on at Blizzard - in his own words - because he knew people, not because of his exceptional talent or proven record.

 Hubris, as always, leads to a big fall.

[Xanthippe]

I'd still be interested in that article.

Go to it and good luck.

Yes, me too, please.

[Xanthippe]

What's so comical and sad about this is that Blizzard really had a money press here, all they had to do was upgrade graphics and keep the core gameplay (polished to a mirrored sheen which they are supposedly known for).  Somehow they fucked this up and killed all that was fun in D1 and D2 in an attempt to even make more money.  It's really unbelievable hubris.

Just like Mythic and Warhammer/DAOC, and Cryptic and CO/CoH. 

Why don't people ever learn?

[waffel]

I was going to (somehow) compare Jay Wilson to Mark Jacobs, but then I realized that Mark Jacobs actually made something that didn't suck.

[Outlawedprod]

I'd still be interested in that article.

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/interview-diablo-creator-david-brevik-discusses-his-feelings-on-diablo-3

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-developers-react-angrily-to-dave-brevik-interview

[Outlawedprod]

Internet meme factory is in full swing now.

Jay Wilson Instructs Bashiok to Hide His...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqXltcnOMCY

[Xanthippe]

I'd still be interested in that article.

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/interview-diablo-creator-david-brevik-discusses-his-feelings-on-diablo-3

http://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-developers-react-angrily-to-dave-brevik-interview

Yes, but that's not quite the same article Schild was going to write.

[Ironwood]

Yes.  I actually really, really want to hear Schild take on this.  He's been quite quiet about it and, frankly, the Zynga stuff I really wanna hear.

[LK]

I would be very happy if someone at Blizzard got fired over that gross break of professionalism. The example it sets is unthinkable. Members of their QA department have more sense.

[Ingmar]

It isn't a "public" Facebook page, as far as I can tell; more likely someone on someone's friends list screenshotted it. And Haga hasn't worked at Blizzard since 2011.

[LK]

Actually, his Facebook page is public. I'm looking at it right now.

Edit: Wilson's comments and others were also taken down. Too late.

[Ingmar]

Yeah I apparently just fail at Facebook searches.

[LK]

[schild]

I don't know who Jill Harrington is, but I want to find out - can you click her name. She can lick all the taints if she thinks she can toss the word "objective" around when it comes to gaming journalism. I invented that fight, motherfucker.

[Pennilenko]

I don't know who Jill Harrington is, but I want to find out - can you click her name. She can lick all the taints if she thinks she can toss the word "objective" around when it comes to gaming journalism. I invented that fight, motherfucker.

The fire is strong within you....Just lay fingers to keyboard and release your hate for all to see.

[waffel]

[LK]

Jill's profile is private, as it should be. Also, I'd watch it. It was pretty scary inside Blizzard when the real names on the forum thing popped up and fans started getting intrusive into the developer's personal lives. I don't consider it justified.

Oh, by the way, fuck it. 7 year veteran of the company, left in October due to personal problems and professional concerns with the state of Blizzard and Diablo III, which I worked on as a member of QA. Anyone paying attention should immediately know who I am. Considering I've already given up on a career in the games industry as of this week, I'm really tired keeping so much of myself hidden out of professional courtesy.

[schild]

I just want to know who she works for - is it Blizzard - and what her title is. I don't actually care about her personal life. If she is a private citizen, then I won't bag on her. Everyone else in that entire screenshot - the definition of fair game.

[Ingmar]

So... you want to excoriate someone for agreeing with you that gaming journalism isn't objective? 

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jill-harrington/1/295/b04

She's a technical artist or animator of some kind it appears.

[Tannhauser]

Lore, thanks for the good work while you were there.   As for Blizzard, well Facebook's a hell of a drug.  

[Ingmar]

Yeah I try not to ever talk about work there, and I'm not really even in any kind of position to get screwed by it, unless I trash my CEO or something - our products certainly wouldn't be impacted by me. You'd have to be really pissed off or really careless to step in it like that.

[LK]

Facebook's a hell of a drug.  

Truth.

[schild]

So... you want to excoriate someone for agreeing with you that gaming journalism isn't objective? 

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/jill-harrington/1/295/b04

She's a technical artist or animator of some kind it appears.

That is not what she said, she implied that gaming journalism SHOULD be objective and that Inc Gamers wasn't.

Which is WRONG.