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Lakov_Sanite
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on: June 22, 2012, 08:49:49 AM

Don't want this to be a bitchfest at blizzard just an honest "this is why I'm stopping" but I'm honestly curious what is causing other people to put it down
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Why are you still playing works too.

For me, I logged on last night and spent an hour trying to tweak my wizards items so he could survive in hell. When I was done, I realized I had to get some sleep so that was all the gaming I could do for the night. i was at that point I realized the game was just not for me.  My coworker just got bored after normal mode and stopped last week but he doesn't count, he's a dirty console player.

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Reply #1 on: June 22, 2012, 09:09:17 AM

Reasons I'm done:

Finding loot is finding vendor or auction house trash. It was extremely rare when I found something I could use as an upgrade for more than 5 minutes from even bosses. Instead, I found items to sell either on the vendor or auction house so that I could buy loot I could use from said auction house. Took the legs right out from under one of the major reasons to even play this type of game.

Random abilities on mobs. Instead of balancing encounters, they just said fuck it, we'll randomize everything, including what the mobs do! Let's go get beer to celebrate! WOOT WOOT! So, you end up with impossible combinations that are quite the opposite of fun. Or encounters so easy, you can't even remember them 30 seconds afterwards.

The real money auction house, which I don't really have a specific issue with in and of itself, has however lead to some ridiculous fucking decisions. The biggest one, of course, always being online. When I log into a single player RPG in the morning before work to beat up some monsters as a good start to the day and I see that I can't because the servers are down, I get a bit pissy. Now that great start to the day is just a reminder of stupid fucking decisions, something I already see at work all the time. Now they're limiting players who downloaded the game to a set level for 72 hours? All because of fraud dealing with that auction house again? Le sigh.

I think that sums up most of my issues.
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Reply #2 on: June 22, 2012, 09:22:39 AM

I will continue to play until I have each type to 60/inferno act I, which I find unfun. Getting there, I find fun. I have a monk and WD there already.

(I just started Act II in hell on my wizard - what seems key to me is having Life% on weapon and high damage, and kiting using this build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#ZXYlOR!WfX!ZZZYZb which probably isn't ideal and can be tweaked. I haven't spent more than 20k on any piece of armor except latest weapon, for which I spent 50k; most of my armor is lvl44 or so, with high int, some vit, crit when I can find it. I leveled looking for int and exp%, then int/vit and exp%, now int/vit and crit. I've always ignored MF as it doesn't seem terribly helpful to leveling up or finding stuff until NV kicks in at 60).

I like exploring, but I rushed my first character to 60 only to find it not fun for me. So I still have some exploring to do. Playing with other people is another way to have fun (for me; sometimes solo is fun for me).

I find useful items just often enough to keep playing (although 60 isn't too fun).
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Reply #3 on: June 22, 2012, 09:25:32 AM

My goal is to get my money back through the auction house, after that i might continue playing depending on whether i can reliably make a few bucks here and there.

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Reply #4 on: June 22, 2012, 09:32:10 AM

This just hasn't grabbed me yet.  But then again I'm not gaming as much as I used to.
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Reply #5 on: June 22, 2012, 09:49:08 AM

I like the game but here is my list:

1)  Cant upgrade without the AH so I have to slowly farm money to move up the ladder meanwhile they continue to nerf the cash flow.
2)  Havent gotten a single legendary yet with over 250hrs played.  The point here isnt just this lack of drop I never get but reflects item 1 where I am getting no upgrades
3)  Repairs - this was a big one for me because I was stalled at Act II Inferno due to gear so I waited for the latest patch to tweak the difficulty.  Now I die and get raped by repair cost and the rewards dont make up for it. 
4)  There is still a wall, although shorter wall once you hit Act II Inferno.
5)  BOTS farming retarded amounts of money, little is being done about it.

6)  Game is about 50% as much fun as when I started
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Reply #6 on: June 22, 2012, 09:58:33 AM

I've gotten along as a Wizard in Hell by bottom feeding on the gold AH in order to pump up my health and dps to acceptable levels.

My build includes 3 offensive and 3 defensive skills.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#UiRYdX!abX!aZbZab
Most stuff dies to Disintegrate (or Chain Lightning if I'm low on power).
Most elite packs can be held off pretty well by my defensive abilities, at least until I can find a good place to kite them down with Venom Hydra.
But some packs are just too hard, and are best avoided/reset. I don't think it's fun to death zerg an impossible mob, and it's even less fun now that repairs have gone up.

I haven't tried inferno yet. But I've been stocking up on All Resist gear. This weekend, I'm going to finish off Pink'd, and then take a shot at Inferno Act 1. If I find it too frustrating, I've got four other classes to play with, to say nothing of my HC adventurism.

So I'm not done yet. The one thing that Blizzard has done that annoyed me at all, was the repair cost thing. But that's not a reason to quit, in and of itself.

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Reply #7 on: June 22, 2012, 10:03:59 AM

I quit playing legitly weeks ago. Now I just farm gold, buy items with the gold, and sell the items on the RMAH. The only reason I care about this game any more is because it's filling up my payal account. Sad but awesome.
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Reply #8 on: June 22, 2012, 10:08:08 AM

I'm not done, because I can't vote with my wallet on this one. That cost is sunk. However, I am spending a good majority of my time talking to people at Blizzard about their 72 hour policy and registering my complaints with that.

I still believe the game can be good with more love, but the "business decisions" by Blizzard over the last 3 weeks can't go unpunished. Several governments have already been stepping in.

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Reply #9 on: June 22, 2012, 10:18:25 AM

I piddle around for an hour or two when I've got time on the weekends.  As I expected of the game when I bought it.  I've got WoT and later WoM along with WOW as my main time-wasters. 

I'm still having fun because I just don't care.   All these things I see everyone getting worked-up about?  Yeah, some of them suck, but I simply don't give a rat's ass.  I said my piece early on before the game was released about the RMAH and Online-only being bullshit decisions.  Nobody wanted to believe then.  As a result I got over caring and I'm on to playing instead now. 

I'm only just in to Hell and haven't hit the SK yet.  I've run in to a few 'son of a bitch' 4-title combos but a little reworking of skills and I was able to take them out.   Some days I'll have bullshit lag so I'll quit playing early but still, not a huge deal.  I knew it was online only and going to have these problems when I bought it.


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Reply #10 on: June 22, 2012, 10:59:45 AM

Since there's no subscription I don't think I'm completely done with D3, but my interest in playing took a nose dive one night and I haven't logged in since. The event that killed my interest was running into some nearly impossible pack of champions in Act III Hell. It took about 20 minutes to kill them and they dropped a single blue POS item. It didn't feel epic or challenging so much as it just tired me out. At that point I realized "this is what I'm going to be doing from here on out and it's only going to get harder and more time consuming" and decided doing something else sounded like more fun. Also it doesn't help that you have to run through the same places over and over. Yeah, the areas are randomly generated, but they're not so random that I don't groan at the idea of running through Act II again.
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Reply #11 on: June 22, 2012, 11:29:43 AM

This isn't the type of game I'll play to the exclusion of all others, or will play 5 hours a day, but it is EASY worth an hour or two a day.  I love dungeon crawling and killing lots of monsters with friends.  This game nails that for me.  Do I love absolutely everything about it, but I can't see myself being "done" with it for a very very long time.  I'm in Act 2 hell with my "main", farm act 1 solo or act 2 when my friend is on, play alts when I get bored of that.  Join public games when I want do randomly do a diablo run or something.   I'm not playing at 100% efficiency, I'm not optimizing every possible piece of gear from the AH (about 1/2 my gear has been purchased on the AH on my main, the other half from drops which came either from me or my friends), although I buy upgrades when drops fall behind.   

For the people who are getting sick, do you play with friends?  Dungeon crawling with my friends in this game is going to keep it afloat for me nearly indefinitely, but I could see myself being less enthused if it were just me trying to crash through inferno every night.  But toss in friends on vent/ts/skype and it is like the old days of D2 for us.
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Reply #12 on: June 22, 2012, 11:50:13 AM

It's just boring.

I didn't even get to hell before I got that, "the champ packs are just going to get more annoying and less fun to fight" feeling and punched out. The loot is most of the reason to play an ARPG and the loot in D3 is hideously boring and pretty much 100% of your drops after you start getting actual level appropriate loot in nightmare are vendor or AH fodder. I sell my junk for gold, then buy whatever the most optimal item is that I can afford. That's not terribly exciting.

I like the variety of skills and being able to respec/mix and match however I wish but it kinda feels like you're slowly being pigeonholed into specific samey builds because you'll die hideously otherwise.

And since the loot is the point of the game, and there's a RMAH for loot, Blizzard will be balancing the game around that rather than fun. Not because they suck or are evil or whatever, but because they have no real choice.

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Reply #13 on: June 22, 2012, 11:54:41 AM

I hit Inferno, still randomly log in to play other characters. I still find it quite fun, this is the same way I behaved with D2. I can only take so much ARPG in a week before I need a break.
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Reply #14 on: June 22, 2012, 12:11:01 PM

Been playing occasionally with a friend this week - very occasionally, I think we've played under 3 hours in total. That may happen sometimes, but there seems to be no way to progress now without either farming *huge* amounts of gold or spending real money.

We'll probably revisit it in a month or two and see if they manage to find a way for non-RMAH users to progress.

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Reply #15 on: June 22, 2012, 12:46:05 PM

I didn't even get to hell before I got that, "the champ packs are just going to get more annoying and less fun to fight" feeling and punched out.

Now that I think about it further, that was the tipping point: the moment I went from "Ooh! A champ pack! I wonder what they'll drop..." to "Ugh. A champ pack. This is going to take forever."
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Reply #16 on: June 22, 2012, 12:47:09 PM

It's just boring.

I didn't even get to hell before I got that, "the champ packs are just going to get more annoying and less fun to fight" feeling and punched out. The loot is most of the reason to play an ARPG and the loot in D3 is hideously boring and pretty much 100% of your drops after you start getting actual level appropriate loot in nightmare are vendor or AH fodder. I sell my junk for gold, then buy whatever the most optimal item is that I can afford. That's not terribly exciting.

I like the variety of skills and being able to respec/mix and match however I wish but it kinda feels like you're slowly being pigeonholed into specific samey builds because you'll die hideously otherwise.

And since the loot is the point of the game, and there's a RMAH for loot, Blizzard will be balancing the game around that rather than fun. Not because they suck or are evil or whatever, but because they have no real choice.

This says exactly what I wanted, but in a condensed form.  Thanks for doing the work for me.
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Reply #17 on: June 22, 2012, 12:58:19 PM

Arm hurt too bad to keep playing, sadly.

Plus, it's game, I've moved on to other games.  I didn't invest as much emotionally into this title as some have.  It was rather easy to just stop playing.

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Reply #18 on: June 22, 2012, 01:23:45 PM

This guy on the forums sez Blizzard is done:


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Reply #19 on: June 22, 2012, 01:30:10 PM

1) The lack of continued levels and the stat/skills they provided is a big loss in the carrot-on-a-stick dept.
2) Don't really want to deal with Inferno being such a gear check and providing such crappy loot.
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Reply #20 on: June 22, 2012, 01:41:09 PM

Yep, had somefun, moved on. Maybe it was that I was playing the Barb, which is such a "gear or else" class, but I felt like the Inferno gear check was just not one worth climbing.
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Reply #21 on: June 22, 2012, 01:46:48 PM

I'm done. I logged in to try the 1.0.3 changes and easily made progress in Act 2 (Killing Magdha when pre-patch I'd have problems in the first area), but I just wasn't having fun and haven't logged in since. I don't think the loot system begins working until Inferno (when you finally start having the chance to find loot that is at-level and better than what you are using), but by that point you're beating the campaign for the fourth time on that character.

Simply put, the loot system wasn't addictive enough to keep me playing through a mediocre campaign.
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Reply #22 on: June 22, 2012, 01:54:06 PM

It's just boring.

I didn't even get to hell before I got that, "the champ packs are just going to get more annoying and less fun to fight" feeling and punched out. The loot is most of the reason to play an ARPG and the loot in D3 is hideously boring and pretty much 100% of your drops after you start getting actual level appropriate loot in nightmare are vendor or AH fodder. I sell my junk for gold, then buy whatever the most optimal item is that I can afford. That's not terribly exciting.

I like the variety of skills and being able to respec/mix and match however I wish but it kinda feels like you're slowly being pigeonholed into specific samey builds because you'll die hideously otherwise.

And since the loot is the point of the game, and there's a RMAH for loot, Blizzard will be balancing the game around that rather than fun. Not because they suck or are evil or whatever, but because they have no real choice.

This is why I quit.  I never got a piece of loot that I either got excited about or could use.  Everything came from the AH.  Yawn.
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Reply #23 on: June 22, 2012, 01:57:47 PM

They should have put in way more story if they were just making an auction house and gold farming simulator.

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Reply #24 on: June 22, 2012, 02:42:38 PM

Still playing. WD hardcore bit it in Inferno, so now I am leveling up a wizard. I'm thinking I'll give every class a go and be done. And I'll say it once again, the HC auction house / economy is actually very good.

Still having a lot of fun.

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Reply #25 on: June 22, 2012, 02:45:37 PM

And I'm happy for you, truly, but even you have to admit you're the type of guy that finds punching himself in the dick fun.

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Reply #26 on: June 22, 2012, 02:47:16 PM


Simply put, the loot system wasn't addictive enough to keep me playing through a mediocre campaign.

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Reply #27 on: June 22, 2012, 02:50:51 PM

*sigh* Is no one enjoying themselves? I don't want to play all alone!  Heartbreak Heartbreak

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Reply #28 on: June 22, 2012, 02:53:59 PM

Ooh the cleverly disguised "what went wrong thread."

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Reply #29 on: June 22, 2012, 02:55:09 PM

*sigh* Is no one enjoying themselves? I don't want to play all alone!  Heartbreak Heartbreak

I am still enjoying shooting/thumping stuff. There are times when I dread slogging through the same zones 4 more times for every new toon, but that is just because I been playing way too much out of the gate.

And that is not to say I don't understand all the concern/vitriol being thrown its way. I am in complete agreement with a lot of it - but playing this beats the hell outta staring at my walls or *gasp* cleaning my kitchen.

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Reply #30 on: June 22, 2012, 03:06:30 PM

And I'm happy for you, truly, but even you have to admit you're the type of guy that finds punching himself in the dick fun.


Na, I like some challenge. And permadeath isn't that big a deal if you have played a lot of dungeon crawl games. When I beat Diablo Inferno Hardcore, all the dick punching will be worth it.

It was funny, my fiancee was watching me play the other night and I was dealing with some packs in Inferno and I got quite low...she was all "I can't take it! It's just too stressful!!!!" and went away. Women just aren't meant to play hardcore, I guess.

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Reply #31 on: June 22, 2012, 04:03:33 PM

My selection of movies downloaded from the internet would disagree.

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Reply #32 on: June 22, 2012, 04:18:07 PM

Ooh the cleverly disguised "what went wrong thread."

 Thumbs up!
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Reply #33 on: June 22, 2012, 04:19:03 PM

And I'm happy for you, truly, but even you have to admit you're the type of guy that finds punching himself in the dick fun.

It was funny, my fiancee was watching me play the other night and I was dealing with some packs in Inferno and I got quite low...she was all "I can't take it! It's just too stressful!!!!" and went away. Women just aren't meant to play hardcore, I guess.

Now now. My monk Eeek is now level 4.
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Reply #34 on: June 22, 2012, 05:01:20 PM

Ooh the cleverly disguised "what went wrong thread."

From Lakov too.  SURPRISE!

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