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jakonovski
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on: May 22, 2012, 01:40:46 AM

So Diablo 3 got hacked. The news is just breaking so there's not much to tell atm, except to change your passwords. Kinda awesome and terrible at the same time.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/05/21/shout-at-the-devil-blizzard-acknowledges-diablo-iii-hacks/
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Reply #1 on: May 22, 2012, 01:53:42 AM

Well, its not like there are real money transactions involved. So whats the harm  why so serious?
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Reply #2 on: May 22, 2012, 02:19:00 AM

My old WoW account seems to be in "Account Banned" status because of this kind of shit (happened at a time I wasn't even subscribed to WoW).  I imagine it won't be long before I get locked out of this game as well for no reason whatsoever.


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Reply #3 on: May 22, 2012, 02:20:33 AM

RMAH has already been delayed from launch to tomorrow, then to the 29th.  I wonder how long this will push it back?
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Reply #4 on: May 22, 2012, 02:48:12 AM

What? Are people still not using authenticators?  ACK!

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Reply #5 on: May 22, 2012, 02:54:53 AM

What? Are people still not using authenticators?  ACK!

The current rumor is that the hackers are targeting session IDs, which bypasses all authentication. Someone more knowledgeable might want to chime in here because that's all I know.
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Reply #6 on: May 22, 2012, 03:03:43 AM

Session IDs is what I'm hearing as well. Their account database didn't get hacked or anything it sounds like.

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Reply #7 on: May 22, 2012, 03:05:16 AM

Authenticators are an annoyance, even if you don't travel.

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Reply #8 on: May 22, 2012, 03:05:51 AM

You know what else is annoying? Having your account stolen.  why so serious?

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Reply #9 on: May 22, 2012, 03:06:16 AM

It only prompts you like once a week if you always log in from the same machine.

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Reply #10 on: May 22, 2012, 03:14:13 AM

Yeah, I put an authenticator on my account when I installed D3 and I've only had to use it once on my work PC and twice at home so far. I used the mobile app which seems fine.

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Reply #11 on: May 22, 2012, 03:17:30 AM

It only prompts you like once a week if you always log in from the same machine.

As this came up in a WoW thread when they made that change, you can change it to the old "prompt every login" set-up as well.  Not sure when they added that, but it was a while ago.

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Reply #12 on: May 22, 2012, 03:29:10 AM

Looks like the remedy to this particular kind of hack is to not join public games, because that's where the session IDs get sent to a bad place.
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Reply #13 on: May 22, 2012, 03:31:27 AM

So this is like RIFT Login Token-Spoofing 2: The Roflcoptering? 'Cos if so, then  why so serious?

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Reply #14 on: May 22, 2012, 03:34:54 AM

Early indications are that it only happens to people in public games (getting the session ID stolen), so at the least I would avoid those for now.

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Reply #15 on: May 22, 2012, 03:48:33 AM

Yeesh, that's nasty if they're bypassing the authenticator like that.

Still, when they patch this they can put in the goddamn ring drop sound at the same time eh.

Edit: Bashiok has posted nay-saying these claims:

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We've been taking the situation extremely seriously from the start, and have done everything possible to verify how and in what circumstances these compromises are occurring. Despite the claims and theories being made, we have yet to find any situations in which a person's account was not compromised through traditional means of someone else logging into their account through the use of their password. While the authenticator isn't a 100% guarantee of account security, we have yet to investigate a compromise report in which an authenticator was attached beforehand.

If your account has been hacked, please view the previous post for information on contacting our support department.

« Last Edit: May 22, 2012, 03:57:37 AM by apocrypha »

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Reply #16 on: May 22, 2012, 04:00:43 AM

so... if I haven't joined any public games should I be safe (for now?)

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Reply #17 on: May 22, 2012, 04:02:40 AM

Sounds like the session thing may also be bullshit, so yeah.

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Reply #18 on: May 22, 2012, 04:04:34 AM

Hahahah.

Awesome.

 why so serious?

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Reply #19 on: May 22, 2012, 04:13:23 AM

Obviously it's the public game joiners at fault. What were they thinking? They could've saved themselves a lot of pain if they had friends to play with.

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Reply #20 on: May 22, 2012, 04:13:35 AM

Still laughing, up until the point my Single Player game won't be playable anymore because my account was hacked. Has every competent person at Blizzard died from a stroke recently or have they fled after the merger? That whole lauch fiasco is so unblizzardlike.
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Reply #21 on: May 22, 2012, 04:19:39 AM

I don't think it's been on a significantly different scale from a WoW expansion launch, so I'm not sure how "Blizzard-like" or not it's been.  And from a "playing the game" level, D3 has been a lot better for my friends and I then trying to do a new raid on night one.

That said, I'm not sure where my experience of "no problems outside of the first 90 minutes past midnight and occasional AH lag" over ~50 hours this week fits in the continuum.

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Reply #22 on: May 22, 2012, 04:22:18 AM

Obviously it's the public game joiners at fault. What were they thinking? They could've saved themselves a lot of pain if they had friends to play with.

Unless we assume Blizzard is lying (or possibly incompetent), then there's nothing to the public game theory people had either.
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Reply #23 on: May 22, 2012, 04:24:30 AM

Obviously it has been worse for Europeans, caladein.
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Reply #24 on: May 22, 2012, 04:26:38 AM

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Reply #25 on: May 22, 2012, 04:28:45 AM

in my head, sequence of events play out like this:

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1. Blizzard delays Diablo III. Again. And again.
This isn't Blizzard's fault for trying to be perfectionist. Would you play a buggy, unpolished game?

2. Blizzard demands online play only, creating instant death from lags and make offline, lagless play impossible and not an option.
Diablo is meant to be played online, rofl.

3. Blizzard can't keep a good login system to deal with the day 1 owners.
Blizzard is the victim of their own success. No one could've predicted the magnitude of the pre-order and day 1 enthusiasm. This is a good problem to have for a company of their caliber. If anything those login hoggers should blame themselves for not having patience and jamming the login servers.

4. Blizzard lets a loophole go live and enabled some hackers to steal customer's account through session ID
Blizzard can't be blamed here, online security is a big issue that is hard to cover all every loophole.

If 1 is true. Then why do we still get 3 and 4?

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Reply #26 on: May 22, 2012, 04:47:02 AM

You know what ?  I'm just not prepared to accept the 'we didn't know it would be popular' line.

It's bullshit.

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Reply #27 on: May 22, 2012, 05:07:33 AM

You know what ?  I'm just not prepared to accept the 'we didn't know it would be popular' line.

It's bullshit.


It's humongous bullshit.  It is far more likely that they knew exactly what kind of day 1 issues they were going to run into, and chose to accept the risk.  Because in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't change their bottom line one bit.

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Reply #28 on: May 22, 2012, 05:23:49 AM

It only prompts you like once a week if you always log in from the same machine.

As this came up in a WoW thread when they made that change, you can change it to the old "prompt every login" set-up as well.  Not sure when they added that, but it was a while I have this set up permanently. For the extra 10 seconds that it takes me to log in, I don't mind a little more security on my home machine.

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Reply #29 on: May 22, 2012, 05:39:09 AM

Day 1 issues are one thing, killing the login servers during primetime afterwards (sunday afternoon) are something completely different.
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Reply #30 on: May 22, 2012, 05:56:54 AM

Still laughing, up until the point my Single Player game won't be playable anymore because my account was hacked. Has every competent person at Blizzard died from a stroke recently or have they fled after the merger? That whole lauch fiasco is so unblizzardlike.

Combined with the problems they've had in the MOP beta and that large chunks of it STILL aren't turned-on or working right the snark in me says it's either the latter or they've spread themselves way too thin. Try and do everything and you please no one and all that.

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Reply #31 on: May 22, 2012, 06:12:03 AM

so... if I haven't joined any public games should I be safe (for now?)

Nope, I havent joined any public games and got hit this weekend
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Reply #32 on: May 22, 2012, 06:33:41 AM

so... if I haven't joined any public games should I be safe (for now?)

Nope, I havent joined any public games and got hit this weekend

egads. Condolences.  ACK!

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Reply #33 on: May 22, 2012, 07:25:44 AM

Just as an after-thought;  what's going to be the impact on WoW ?  Surely the accounts being connected is a problem ?

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Reply #34 on: May 22, 2012, 07:36:43 AM

Just as an after-thought;  what's going to be the impact on WoW ?  Surely the accounts being connected is a problem ?
Considering that a battle.net account encompasses all of these games, yep.

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