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Reply #35 on: May 17, 2012, 02:31:43 PM

We need a tip thread that gets updated periodically.  It is VERY easy to overlook the importance of gear in the game- as a WD I would never noticed the correlation of my spell damage, pet effectiveness, etc and what weapons/armor I had on.

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Reply #36 on: May 17, 2012, 04:06:27 PM

Is the AH buggy as hell, or am I just using it wrong?

It seems that very small changes in settings shift the results from loads of results to no results. e.g. changing the maximum buyout price from 8000 to 9000 seemed to kill the list, and there are apparently no hats with intel on them.

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Reply #37 on: May 17, 2012, 04:09:18 PM

Fallen Teeth are going for as low as 20 per right now- which is great considering last night they were running for 60/per!

Grabbed me 100.  You have to be patient and click fast when someone posts it!

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Reply #38 on: May 17, 2012, 04:28:44 PM

Nevermind, I'm seeing things
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Reply #39 on: May 17, 2012, 04:29:25 PM

That seems remarkably counterintuitive  Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #40 on: May 17, 2012, 04:32:03 PM

I must agree, the AH totally feels like cheating and it's subtly changing the whole Diablo experience to me. It is taking away from the looting game since no matter what I loot, stuff in AH is better. Meh.

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Reply #41 on: May 17, 2012, 04:33:26 PM

So don't use it. Pretend it isn't there!

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Reply #42 on: May 17, 2012, 04:34:27 PM

Half the time the server is too wonky to use it, so it actually isn't there!

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Reply #43 on: May 17, 2012, 04:36:06 PM

Perfect!

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Reply #44 on: May 17, 2012, 05:35:46 PM

Is the AH buggy as hell, or am I just using it wrong?

It seems that very small changes in settings shift the results from loads of results to no results. e.g. changing the maximum buyout price from 8000 to 9000 seemed to kill the list, and there are apparently no hats with intel on them.
It's buggy.
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Reply #45 on: May 17, 2012, 05:59:42 PM

As a Monk I just stack Dex and Gold Find on items. In normal its ridiculously easy and I have serious gold rolling in from monster kills + selling blues and AHing rares.
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Reply #46 on: May 17, 2012, 06:23:38 PM


Yeah, I was going to do it then I saw stuff like "Level two demon hunters to 60."  WHY TWO?


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Reply #47 on: May 17, 2012, 06:29:56 PM

As a Monk I just stack Dex and Gold Find on items. In normal its ridiculously easy and I have serious gold rolling in from monster kills + selling blues and AHing rares.
I was thinking about stacking gold find since it's a much easier value to calculate. Perhaps it may be the way to go given the auction house and the wack pricing. Will investigate tonight.
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Reply #48 on: May 17, 2012, 06:34:48 PM

As a Monk I just stack Dex and Gold Find on items. In normal its ridiculously easy and I have serious gold rolling in from monster kills + selling blues and AHing rares.
I was thinking about stacking gold find since it's a much easier value to calculate. Perhaps it may be the way to go given the auction house and the wack pricing. Will investigate tonight.

Possibly.  May want some distance gold father items also.

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Reply #49 on: May 17, 2012, 06:50:37 PM

I'm honestly not that worried about optimizing my gold and magic find stuff until the end game.  Sure, you can play the AH all day right now, but in a month no one is going to care about 100,000 gold of profit, or any of the items anyone has found so far.
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Reply #50 on: May 17, 2012, 09:38:40 PM

Anyone else having problems with AH searches saying No Items Found when you *know* there's things there?    I keep trying to do searches for magic find / int items and bupkis.  I think it's timing out on me.

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Reply #51 on: May 17, 2012, 10:20:53 PM

Yep, the AH is melting. It's going up and down. If your search takes more than 5-10 seconds, the AH is broken or they are discarding your query because it took too long. Try limiting your search, queries that return a smaller list run faster, common already cached queries run faster (use a primary stat and 5000 or 10000 buyout, for example)
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Reply #52 on: May 18, 2012, 12:38:11 AM

Anyone else having problems with AH searches saying No Items Found when you *know* there's things there?    I keep trying to do searches for magic find / int items and bupkis.  I think it's timing out on me.

Actually the most common No Items Found is because you left the search too open ended. I think that the AH either can't display over a certain amount of pages because of the server load or because its shit. Every time I get that msg if I restrict the search (add a 2nd or 3rd stat I'm looking for, create a floor for a stat, add a level range etc.) I'll get results.

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Reply #53 on: May 18, 2012, 12:51:54 AM

I find that if I just put a 1 in the "Min Value" of any field it often makes results appear.

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Reply #54 on: May 18, 2012, 01:02:41 AM

They also might have slowed it down so people dont keep spamming looking for a cheap corner on the market.

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Reply #55 on: May 18, 2012, 02:01:20 AM

In light of Followers contributing to Magic Find and me finding out at level 18 amulets can have 12% Magic Find, I am now well over 100%. I would imagine this is probably a conversion to like 10+% chance to get a Magic item.

If it's like D2, iirc it was a percent of the base chance to find magic items. so if the base chance is 1% then 100% mf is 2%
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Reply #56 on: May 18, 2012, 04:16:18 AM

I was doing all the suggested bits and it was returning nothing.  If I *DIDN'T* try and filter I got results, but any filter would fuck up the search.

 Working fine this morning, I think it was just getting hammered last night.

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Reply #57 on: May 18, 2012, 06:23:09 AM

Just discovered that if the AH is being slow and often returning no results then wait when you hit search, then as soon as "no results" appears hit search again. 9 times out of 10 results appear instantly, like the search had actually run but just timed out.

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Reply #58 on: May 18, 2012, 06:38:25 AM

I was doing all the suggested bits and it was returning nothing.  If I *DIDN'T* try and filter I got results, but any filter would fuck up the search.

 Working fine this morning, I think it was just getting hammered last night.

Was wondering wtf was going on... I would search 1h weapons and it would just hang and every button was greyed out. I figured it was either lagging or I was doing it wrong.

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Reply #59 on: May 18, 2012, 10:38:20 AM

Just took another browse of the AH, I feel like my entire game right now is just progressing so I can farm more gold so I can buy even more insane stuff for cheap. (and enjoying it)

I'm only level 34 and I just bought a 80dps one handed sword for 10k.

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Reply #60 on: May 18, 2012, 11:13:48 AM

The AH is broken on the EU side too. I was only able to find one handed rare swords, all other searches timed out.
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Reply #61 on: May 18, 2012, 11:51:13 AM

Just took another browse of the AH, I feel like my entire game right now is just progressing so I can farm more gold so I can buy even more insane stuff for cheap. (and enjoying it)

I'm only level 34 and I just bought a 80dps one handed sword for 10k.

Makes me miss D2. Instead of trading with friends or other players online (which means actually interacting with people), I can instead be as antisocial as I want and still get amazing items for little to no effort.

"Oh man, I just found a Windforce on my way to kill Baal! I wonder what I can trade this for and how much its worth!"
Now its:
"Oh man, I just found a Windforce on the auction house for 200k, just need to farm for a few hours and its mine!"

Meh...
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Reply #62 on: May 18, 2012, 12:22:54 PM

I doubt I'm ever going to sit around farming gold to buy stuff off the AH -- that just doesn't strike me as fun.  But if I have gold on hand and am looking for a specific something to fill the gaps (wish this sword were +dex instead of +int!) it's nice to be able to see if there's anything useful out there.

So far I've bought one or two gems and a 1h weapon and spent less than 3k all told.

Still trying to get the hang of pricing yellows so they move (if they're really good I tend to keep 'em).

Mostly I just don't have the patience to deal with the AH when I could be fighting monsters and getting loot!
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Reply #63 on: May 18, 2012, 01:00:03 PM

Makes me miss D2. Instead of trading with friends or other players online (which means actually interacting with people), I can instead be as antisocial as I want and still get amazing items for little to no effort.

"Oh man, I just found a Windforce on my way to kill Baal! I wonder what I can trade this for and how much its worth!"
Now its:
"Oh man, I just found a Windforce on the auction house for 200k, just need to farm for a few hours and its mine!"

Meh...

Yeah, this is feeling like kind of a huge flaw right now for me. It hasn't turned me off to the game yet, but it has just sort of totally removed the loot candy aspect. On the other hand, figuring out what to DE and what to sell was getting kind of tedious. Now just right click everything.

"Don't use the AH" feels like an insufficient answer. If I was playing this solo: sure. But if you're grouping with people? It's not super fun to be 30-40% DPS behind everybody else.

My guess is that this all changes at 60/Inferno and a few months down the road. But for now, it's a bit of a drag, even as it's fun melting the hell out of stuff, if that makes any sense.
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Reply #64 on: May 18, 2012, 01:03:16 PM

Yeah, I'm slightly unsure myself. A couple of my friends are playing the min/ max game whilst levelling and their stats are just *ridiculous*. 1500 more health and almost triple the dps makes an entirely different game!
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Reply #65 on: May 18, 2012, 01:04:51 PM

It's not super fun to be 30-40% DPS behind everybody else.

Can you even tell? Shit is so chaotic and explosion-y that I don't know that I'd be able to.

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Reply #66 on: May 18, 2012, 01:07:27 PM

You can when someones disintegrate destroys entire packs of mobs before your blizzard / meteor has even appeared on screen. It will balance it at 60 and most people won't even notice it I guess so it's not a major issue but right now it's slightly vexing.

On the plus side, my spells are a damn sight cooler looking!
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Reply #67 on: May 18, 2012, 02:23:14 PM

You can when someones disintegrate destroys entire packs of mobs before your blizzard / meteor has even appeared on screen. It will balance it at 60 and most people won't even notice it I guess so it's not a major issue but right now it's slightly vexing.

On the plus side, my spells are a damn sight cooler looking!

Decided for myself to to just have fun and enjoy myself for the moment, and start the obsessing and min/max-ing when I reach levelcap or the difficulty ramps up noticeably. Whichever happens first.
Also think about how much damage you could have done while wasting 15 minutes browsing the AH.*

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Reply #68 on: May 18, 2012, 04:20:04 PM

Just took another browse of the AH, I feel like my entire game right now is just progressing so I can farm more gold so I can buy even more insane stuff for cheap. (and enjoying it)

I'm only level 34 and I just bought a 80dps one handed sword for 10k.

Makes me miss D2. Instead of trading with friends or other players online (which means actually interacting with people), I can instead be as antisocial as I want and still get amazing items for little to no effort.

"Oh man, I just found a Windforce on my way to kill Baal! I wonder what I can trade this for and how much its worth!"
Now its:
"Oh man, I just found a Windforce on the auction house for 200k, just need to farm for a few hours and its mine!"

Meh...

Yeah I missed Everquest, it had a real community where people had to work and earn their levels.

Edit:

Buy a few items on the AH.
Go to click send to stash.
AH goes down.
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Don't profit.
« Last Edit: May 18, 2012, 04:21:49 PM by Draegan »
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Reply #69 on: May 18, 2012, 04:36:56 PM

Maybe I'm old but going from normal to nightmare is an insane difficulty ramp up, I can't even imagine inferno.

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