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luckton
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on: January 12, 2012, 10:58:06 AM

http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/01/12/rakghouls-and-raging-hutts-with-swtors-gabe-amatangelo/

Or I guess they're calling them Rakghouls.  In any case, a nice preview of the upcoming flashpoint.  Would be interesting to see if they pull this off before February.  I mean, I know they're aiming for Jan 17th, but 'cmon... why so serious?

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Reply #1 on: January 12, 2012, 10:59:42 AM

"Zombies have been done to death."




On a more serious note I wonder if all the content packs will be level fifty only, better hurry up the leveling.

Edit: You run into the rakghouls on Taris, it is some sort of disease created when the Empire destroyed the planet that can infect people.  Some are force sensitive.

Fake edit on edit:  I don't like all these barely sapient races having force sensitivity, seems like something that only advanced races should have.  Perhaps I'm racist.
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Reply #2 on: January 12, 2012, 11:03:59 AM


 Was taking a break from the monotony play style, but I think I'm ready to charge through to 50 now.  Already more than halfway there.

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Reply #3 on: January 12, 2012, 11:27:53 AM

On a more serious note I wonder if all the content packs will be level fifty only, better hurry up the leveling.

Fake edit on edit:  I don't like all these barely sapient races having force sensitivity, seems like something that only advanced races should have.  Perhaps I'm racist.
Hurry through the content so you can get to the content for those who hurried through the content?

Fake edit: "It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us and penetrates us. It binds the galaxy together.” I guess Ben left off the racism part. The JC (and maybe JK) plots touch on savage races with Force sensitivity. My guess is untutored it would generally lead to the dark side.
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Reply #4 on: January 12, 2012, 11:58:26 AM

There is no dark side to the force, it's all marketing.
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Reply #5 on: January 12, 2012, 11:59:44 AM

I'm sure at least the early content releases will focus on level 50, that's where they're currently thinner on content.

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Reply #6 on: January 12, 2012, 12:53:14 PM

First bit of stuff seems to be coming about about the next update.

Rise of the Rakghouls


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Reply #7 on: January 12, 2012, 12:55:17 PM


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Reply #8 on: January 12, 2012, 12:56:37 PM

Woops.  awesome, for real

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Reply #9 on: January 12, 2012, 12:57:35 PM


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Reply #10 on: January 12, 2012, 01:24:24 PM

Edit: You run into the rakghouls on Taris, it is some sort of disease created when the Empire destroyed the planet that can infect people.  Some are force sensitive.

Fake edit on edit:  I don't like all these barely sapient races having force sensitivity, seems like something that only advanced races should have.  Perhaps I'm racist.

The Rakghoul plague was present before Darth Malak's bombardment of Taris. See: KOTOR 1.  Further EU meddling has led to the Rakghoul plague being a result of Sith Magic (??).

EDIT: It's worse than we thought; they're everywhere!
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Reply #11 on: January 12, 2012, 02:07:57 PM

March, eh? That "One planet a month!" thing didn't last very long.  awesome, for real

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Reply #12 on: January 12, 2012, 02:26:21 PM

Go away, troll.

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Reply #13 on: January 12, 2012, 02:30:21 PM

I'm not sure anyone beyond sky really expected them to live up to their promises of content creation. Even now they are making promises no one actually believes they'll keep but if people are having fun then who cares. What this does tell me though is that if the new content is already going to be centered around max level, then max level content is all you'll be getting from now on.

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Reply #14 on: January 12, 2012, 02:59:00 PM

Well, at least that answers the question of how are they going to make their bosses more interesting than droids and humanoids. On the down side it doesn't look at all like Star Wars in any shape or form.

(also there's quite a t of zombies in this game - Empire Tatooine has zombies as well, although not Rakhghouls).
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Reply #15 on: January 12, 2012, 03:39:34 PM

Republic Tatooine has zombies too, Maledict. Probably the same kind!

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Reply #16 on: January 12, 2012, 06:06:07 PM

I'm not sure anyone beyond sky really expected them to live up to their promises of content creation. Even now they are making promises no one actually believes they'll keep but if people are having fun then who cares.

Yes, it is great when devs oversell and underdeliver on their titles. We love being shown one thing and then getting another.  Ohhhhh, I see.

The "if people are having fun" part that is a huge qualifier. Things can turn very quickly when expectations aren't well managed.

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Reply #17 on: January 13, 2012, 01:14:15 AM

New content about to be added less than a month after the official release and there are grumbles that the next content patch (potentially with new BG, dungeon and raid) is going to be added 6-8 weeks later?

Don't ever change guys.

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Reply #18 on: January 13, 2012, 03:13:21 AM

Interview with James Ohlen at Rock Paper Shotgun (complete with frothing anti-SWTOR/MMO in general comments) hints at what else is expected in March update:

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We then have a second update coming in March, and that’s going to be a much bigger update, another flashpoint – part two of Rise of the Rakghouls – and we’re going to have a whole new planet, with a brand new operation and warzone. We’re going to have the second part of the Legacy system, which is the real meat of it. We’re going to have guild banks, PVP ranking systems, and a lot of smaller additions and bug fixes. And we’re already working on the third update. The story’s already written out and being recorded for the fourth, fifth… and I can’t say how many updates we have, but we have a lot. Just to give you an idea of how far we’re planning ahead, we’ve already got voiceover being recorded for content you won’t see for a year or more.

Personally, if they do actually manage to get all that into the update and release it in March, I really don't care that February is a bit of a dry month for new content. (I don't care anyway but that's for other reasons).

Ohlen also hints at the possibility of something akin to WARs public quests being included at some point.

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Reply #19 on: January 13, 2012, 03:21:28 AM

Yeah, I have no big issue with the first month being dry - but that sounds much more like the amount of content they need in updates to maintain a content centred mmo.

However, adding a necessary snark, who wants to bet against the guild bank being no larger than a player cargo hold?

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Reply #20 on: January 13, 2012, 04:44:00 AM

I'm still not even cap. I got story stuff to do, companion storylines to do since only Jorgan is over 1000 affection, heroics to probably run and hate, and god willing some raids to try out provided more than 2 groups of goons can organize 8-16 people in a guild of like 400ish active players.

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Reply #21 on: January 13, 2012, 04:49:52 AM

Honestly, the quality of the content in this game is so vastly superior than any other MMO I have every played (Tortage in AoC comes closest, but still a distant second) that I couldn't give two shits if they don't release anything for the first 6 months.  I have sooooo much to do still, and all of it is awesome.  I might level slower than average, I have no idea, but there is no dearth of content in this game.  Anyone complaining about a lack of new content in February or even March needs their brains punched.

Fake Edit:  Also, yeah, Rakghouls and zombified things are not exactly new to the canon.  A lot of what I see in this game fits quite well with other canon (Bioware created and otherwise), and an uber nerd like me really appreciates it. 
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Reply #22 on: January 13, 2012, 05:06:33 AM

Hell, I'd settle for a dry spell in content if they literally dedicated an entire major patch to unfucking the engine, backend, and UI.

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Reply #23 on: January 13, 2012, 06:14:01 AM

Fake Edit:  Also, yeah, Rakghouls and zombified things are not exactly new to the canon.  A lot of what I see in this game fits quite well with other canon (Bioware created and otherwise), and an uber nerd like me really appreciates it. 

Likewise. Although a lot of the KOTOR stuff needs to be spelled out to me as I've forgotten lots of it. I didn't even connect House Ulgo with Trask Ulgo and Darth Bandon totally slipped my mind.

I was surprised to see the Endar Spire on Taris though - thought it had been entirely vaporized at the beginning of KOTOR.

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Reply #24 on: January 13, 2012, 06:53:38 AM

I'm still not even cap. I got story stuff to do, companion storylines to do since only Jorgan is over 1000 affection, heroics to probably run and hate, and god willing some raids to try out provided more than 2 groups of goons can organize 8-16 people in a guild of like 400ish active players.

Well I'm the same, but if they couldn't currently generate content at the rate I would need them to once I am cap, then I'd have serious doubts that they'd be able to do it later.

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Reply #25 on: January 13, 2012, 07:15:33 AM

Interview with James Ohlen at Rock Paper Shotgun (complete with frothing anti-SWTOR/MMO in general comments) hints at what else is expected in March update:

Quote
We then have a second update coming in March, and that’s going to be a much bigger update, another flashpoint – part two of Rise of the Rakghouls – and we’re going to have a whole new planet, with a brand new operation and warzone. We’re going to have the second part of the Legacy system, which is the real meat of it. We’re going to have guild banks, PVP ranking systems, and a lot of smaller additions and bug fixes. And we’re already working on the third update. The story’s already written out and being recorded for the fourth, fifth… and I can’t say how many updates we have, but we have a lot. Just to give you an idea of how far we’re planning ahead, we’ve already got voiceover being recorded for content you won’t see for a year or more.


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Reply #26 on: January 13, 2012, 07:30:41 AM

Fuck content, i need macros and basic ui fixes.

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Reply #27 on: January 13, 2012, 07:32:47 AM

The largest selling point for Hero engine is its collaborative tools. You can have 3 ( Random number ) world builders, and 3 quest designers working in the same level file remotely at the same time. Its a wonderious piece of software. Its also, other than audio, why i think you'll see them able to turn out content at a fast pace.

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Reply #28 on: January 13, 2012, 07:44:27 AM

The largest selling point for Hero engine is its collaborative tools. You can have 3 ( Random number ) world builders, and 3 quest designers working in the same level file remotely at the same time. Its a wonderious piece of software. Its also, other than audio, why i think you'll see them able to turn out content at a fast pace.
Is access to the latest and shiniest code part of the licensing agreement for it is or are you locked to your current version without dropping a bunch of cash?

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Reply #29 on: January 13, 2012, 07:47:51 AM

AFAIK its part of the core suite ( The tools ). Its one of the ground level features. I don't know if source updates are part of the license. I do know BW has source files.
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Reply #30 on: January 13, 2012, 07:55:58 AM

I was curious if SWTOR was suffering sort of the same problems that games like Vampire: The Masquerade suffered where they were using version 0.shit of the engine (VT:M was literally built on a beta version of source if I recall).

Semi-sorta offtopic, but I'm actually kinda "wow" at their HeroCloud thing.

http://www.heroengine.com/herocloud/

Basically; the engine, tools, and hosting are all free. You get their tech for free, they host your servers for nothing, but when you start selling subs (which they apparently have transaction support for) they take a 30% cut.

Is anyone else in the industry doing this re: middleware?

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Reply #31 on: January 13, 2012, 08:06:12 AM

Hell, I'd settle for a dry spell in content if they literally dedicated an entire major patch to unfucking the engine, backend, and UI.

SWTOR: Rise of the Playable Client

Yep, this is me. Again, low end system, etc, etc but it's not fun to play right now for me with the performance issues.
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Reply #32 on: January 13, 2012, 08:07:39 AM

I don't see that changing suddenly in the near future. 

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Reply #33 on: January 13, 2012, 08:46:21 AM

I'm not sure anyone beyond sky
Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #34 on: January 13, 2012, 09:21:48 AM

Yeah... I'm no fanboi (half my posts are 'what went wrong' after all  awesome, for real) but I still enjoy this game a lot. Their biggest strength is content, so more of it is a Good Thing.

I also agree with Threash/Fabricated/MA that UI and responsiveness fixes need to be happening ASAP, but those aren't issues you can solve in less than 1-2 months even if you have an army of coders working 24/7, so I'm willing to wait until 1.2 (or maybe even 1.3 if there's a really good reason).

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