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Sjofn
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The worst "whoops, overlooked that" to me is a lot of companions actually come with moddable weapons and whatnot, but they're still colored green. You have to mouse over them to see that oh hey, you can slot shit into these!
WHAT? I think I may have already vendored Corso's original weapon after "upgrading" it with something new. I think all the first companions come with non-moddy weapons but I honestly am not completely sure because I only noticed the coloring error recently, and I still forget sometimes, because I am dumb.
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Ingmar
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Pretty sure at least some of T7's starter gear is moddable - not just weapon, either.
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Sjofn
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Yeah M1-4X's shit was all moddable if I remember right, which is good since droids are a bigger pain in the ass to gear up, if you ask me.
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Thrawn
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... "The Streets of Cademimu" last boss, watch out for the fire pits. Even if you resist most of the dmg, it can kill you over time.....
Only ran Cademimu once, but I remember me and one other person getting set on fire well after the boss was dead and we were rolling for loot.
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The worst "whoops, overlooked that" to me is a lot of companions actually come with moddable weapons and whatnot, but they're still colored green. You have to mouse over them to see that oh hey, you can slot shit into these! Qyzen's sword, of course, is not moddable. Because why would it be. My favorite example of this right now is Blizz. He comes with an "orange" gun that is green, and I've had 2 or 3 quest rewards -explicitly marked as "Must be Blizz" - that were also greens but with mods.
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Threash
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So i found a dupe bug last night, reported it and the patch this morning fixed it. Also i did not get banned for using it a bunch. Win/win if you ask me!
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Miasma
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So i found a dupe bug last night, reported it and the patch this morning fixed it. Also i did not get banned for using it a bunch. Win/win if you ask me!
What good is having a swtor subforum if you don't bother telling the rest of us before such things are fixed?
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01101010
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No you don't need lvl 50. Any dungeon with grey mobs will do it for you. The can't hurt you or do only min. dmg over time.
2 exceptions, in "The Streets of Cademimu" last boss, watch out for the fire pits. Even if you resist most of the dmg, it can kill you over time..... In "The Colicoid War Game" you need more "human" players.
Funny point, in OPs like "The Esseles" you can use your vehicle inside. On top of that you will always get light/dark points so you can even "farm" them there, for e.g. "The Esseles" 250points each run.....
I was running esseles at 17 without much effort and at 22 harmlessly, ripping through for the orange shit for Qyzen. Also got some shit for that tart, Tharan. After +15 levels on it, you can run straight through and only hit the mobs that drop orange stuff. And yes, you can do esseles in 18 minutes if you use your vehicle and speed past the trash, for orange gear and points. And oddly, in Cademimu... if you send your pet in on the final fight - they can stand in the rocket flame and not take dmg. You however are fucked. So I tend to throw a HoT on Zenith when I can and a DoT or Direct Damage spell on the boss when I can then spend the rest of the time dodging the rain of fire. No idea what he dropped though... AIM pants maybe?
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Fabricated
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Did they actually fix the Cademimu bug where you burst into flames and die when you enter the boss room because the 4 engines are always flagged as being on?
I noticed they fixed pulling the boss into the hallway, but they said nothing of fixing that you know...instant death bug.
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kildorn
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Never saw the instant death one. But a lot of positioning type area damage abilities don't hit Companions. So having your companion tank the Cad boss makes the fight pretty funny if you overlevel it a bit.
I've been meaning to try the red whatever level 44ish one with my Scoundrel.
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tmp
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Orange is lumped in with blue in the galactic market system as well.
It's far worse than that -- at least some of the orange gear is treated as white/grey (and some also as level 1 items to boot). If you narrow search results to green+ or higher, and/or for certain level range you won't even see some of it. edit: on the upside, thanks to these glitches you can find bulk (but not all) of orange gear on sale just running the default search and setting order to "quality, ascending" or "level, ascending" -- most of the orange items will show up on the first few pages this way. edit 2: mind you, because AH window is stupid stupid stupid it won't actually sort these fetched items itself, on fetch. Noooo, you have to re-click the column after you hit search, to remind it that it should do the fucking sorting.
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« Last Edit: January 06, 2012, 10:54:47 AM by tmp »
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Mrbloodworth
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My solution is to just ignore the GAH, unless I'm selling.
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Sky
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STR/DEF Medium armor exists.
And End/Shield heavy armor isn't craftable Can only get End/Def which screws shieldtech PTs. How will BC ever be competitive in the raid scene? Warning - while you were reading 28 new replies have been posted. You may wish to review your post. Ye gods people And yes, you can do esseles in 18 minutes if you use your vehicle and speed past the trash, for orange gear and points.
Imo the best reason to farm BT is social points, not dark/light or the paltry couple of oranges.
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Lantyssa
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That didn't stop you from ninja looting every one of them!
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Hahahaha! I'm really good at this!
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01101010
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Imo the best reason to farm BT is social points, not dark/light or the paltry couple of oranges.
SOCIAL POINTS?!?! Wait, what are those? edit: I would also like to add another small pet peeve. They butchered the dark side/light side titles you can get. They don't even have a title per level any more. I am stuck with this dumb ass Loathsome title. I wanted Malevolent like it should have been... but yippee... they took that out too.
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« Last Edit: January 06, 2012, 11:58:37 AM by 01101010 »
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Xuri
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Also, pretty sure there's no such thing as Black Talon Juggernaut's armor for some reason. It's just not dropping at all, as far as I know. You can get it (chest-piece) in the chest behind the boss you fight when republic soldiers board the BT after you refrain from killing the Captain. I did, at least.
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apocrypha
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refrain from killing the Captain.
What? I didn't get to be Tenacious the Loathsome at level 35 by refraining!
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Koyasha
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Also, pretty sure there's no such thing as Black Talon Juggernaut's armor for some reason. It's just not dropping at all, as far as I know. You can get it (chest-piece) in the chest behind the boss you fight when republic soldiers board the BT after you refrain from killing the Captain. I did, at least. In release? Interesting. I tried black talon about dozen times or so on my juggernaut trying to get the chest, and it never dropped. Tried both killing and not killing the captain (I alternated so as to even out my point gain) and no dice either path.
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Modern Angel
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The performance issues on lower end machines like mine are just mindblowing. This is especially true given the state of a high profile I got into. The thing is that there's zero rhyme or reason to it. Balmorra and Alderaan are borderline unplayable for me. It's like those two zones are made by other companies. Everything else? Mostly okay.
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Lightstalker
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They are modelling/tracking too much in the environment, that's why some areas have performance issues. Space combat can drag on my really quite overpowered rig when a crewskill mission completes; then the rest of the space combat has my companion falling out of my ship as I fly through space. Really, there is no need to track the contents of the ship during the normal run of a mission, much less lag the trip through in an asteroid field because you are trying to find a legal path for a wookie in space.
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Modern Angel
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I had a crash last night, just walking through the Fleet, that may end up being the beginning of the end for me. I just didn't bother to log on after and I haven't been on since. I've been having fun with it, more consistently than I expected, but it's the least stable MMO release on my rig that I've played since... well, I think it may be the most unstable. I crash. I freeze. I've bluescreened. I'm fairly certain that the game did something fucked up with my sound hardware which I cannot fix.
I think that's a real shame. I'm absolutely, 100% not excusing my end of this. My machine is four years old and I refuse to put incremental upgrades in a machine that old. I don't expect the moon here. But the number of problems I've had with low settings and everything turned off is pretty over the top. MMO alphas pushing more polys on their own engines (rather than the supposedly vetted Hero engine) should not be rock solid in comparison.
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Thrawn
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The performance issues on lower end machines like mine are just mindblowing. This is especially true given the state of a high profile I got into. The thing is that there's zero rhyme or reason to it. Balmorra and Alderaan are borderline unplayable for me. It's like those two zones are made by other companies. Everything else? Mostly okay. I noticed recently when I was playing League of Legends, ripping a DVD and converting a video with handbrake at the same time that all of that uses about the came CPU/Ram on my system as standing around in SWTOR.
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Trippy
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HeroEngine is fucking awful.
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Viin
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HeroEngine is fucking awful.
Agreed, at least the version they are using is. I wonder how much re-engineering it would take to use a newer release.
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The worst "whoops, overlooked that" to me is a lot of companions actually come with moddable weapons and whatnot, but they're still colored green. You have to mouse over them to see that oh hey, you can slot shit into these!
WHAT? I think I may have already vendored Corso's original weapon after "upgrading" it with something new. I think all the first companions come with non-moddy weapons but I honestly am not completely sure because I only noticed the coloring error recently, and I still forget sometimes, because I am dumb. I looked closer and found every single weapon my companions came with is in fact moddable. I can't check Khem because I long since threw his sword away. Balmorra and Alderaan They are the earliest planets that don't use obvious design tricks to reduce draw distance, how was Tatooine and Hoth?
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Miasma
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One of the crashes I had today also decided to reset a bunch of preferences for some odd reason. It's like the crash deleted/corrupted some file, it started playing the opening movies again, all my nameplates were screwed, sound settings wrong. Thankfully it didn't effect my bars and keybindings or I'd have ragequit.
The game even crashes in an odd way. First my ui stops responding, clicks don't do anything. If the second ctrl-U doesn't bring back the ui I know I'm crashing hard. It's like all input is sucked away, can't get into task manager, alt f4 pretends to kill the game but not really, then I can't click on anything in windows either. I have to do a hard power off. The whole time I still have control of my character in that I can wasd move without problems...
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I have a crappy(ish) machine, and I have two kinds of crashes:
1. My video drivers crash (switch to 640x480 and freeze) - this apparently disables the fans on the damn card cause I have to shut down asap or I smell burned dirt. Power down, power back up, is fine for another 3-4 hours.
2. Whenever the game tries to exit normally, when I alt-tab, or when I load new zones, it spends 30 seconds creating page faults. I guess 2 GB RAM is not enough (but I run WinXP so can't do more, for now). Ctrl-Alt-Delete and killing the two swtor.exe processes magically restores my desktop and functionality immediately, rather than after 30 seconds of page faults.
Otherwise I just get the odd sound stutter as it tries to find the sound files for stuff. Tatooine was low FPS but playable, Alderaan is nice and smooth, love it.
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Modern Angel
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Tatooine was just fine. Haven't gotten to Hoth yet (level 35). I'll still have freezes and some crashes but not enough to really aggravate me. Well, it is, but only when looked at in total. I had to get off Alderaan as fast as possible, which annoyed me.
I have a wacky solution to the draw distance issue though: let me adjust my fucking draw distance. This game is so weird with what it will and won't let you do. I have a bad feeling that they don't actually have a lot of control over it, either, or at least don't automatically have the expertise to redo deep technical things on the fly.
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tmp
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I looked closer and found every single weapon my companions came with is in fact moddable. I can't check Khem because I long since threw his sword away. Qyzen's swords aren't, i think -- that comes from vague memory of his weapon tooltips always being pretty short i.e. no room there to list fitted mods, and from the fact i have yet to see a single orange techblade in the game. Even on the vendors with full range of other weapons covered. Checked up to Balmorra so far. Also, Corso's starting weapon may be regular trash gear, fitting with his story and motives to join you, i suppose. Not like i expect any modable weapon of Corso to come with anything but extra harpoon mods.
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One of the crashes I had today also decided to reset a bunch of preferences for some odd reason. It's like the crash deleted/corrupted some file, it started playing the opening movies again, all my nameplates were screwed, sound settings wrong. Thankfully it didn't effect my bars and keybindings or I'd have ragequit.
The game even crashes in an odd way. First my ui stops responding, clicks don't do anything. If the second ctrl-U doesn't bring back the ui I know I'm crashing hard. It's like all input is sucked away, can't get into task manager, alt f4 pretends to kill the game but not really, then I can't click on anything in windows either. I have to do a hard power off. The whole time I still have control of my character in that I can wasd move without problems...
I had the exact same problem, down to the preferences getting screwed up. In fact, my character was in a position that caused my PC to hard-lock the first 2 times I tried to log in... then the 3rd time was fine. Yeah, I got nothin'. I looked closer and found every single weapon my companions came with is in fact moddable. I can't check Khem because I long since threw his sword away. Qyzen's swords aren't, i think -- that comes from vague memory of his weapon tooltips always being pretty short i.e. no room there to list fitted mods, and from the fact i have yet to see a single orange techblade in the game. Checked up to Balmorra so far. Also, Corso's starting weapon may be regular trash gear, fitting with his story and motives to join you, i suppose. Not like i expect any modable weapon of Corso to come with anything but extra harpoon mods. Qyzen is an abomination since he uses Aim as his main stat - so he can't use hilt mods. Blaster barrel mods could work, but I suppose someone at BW thought it'd be immersion-breaking or something. So no orange for you!
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Sjofn
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I really don't get why they didn't just have Qyzen use fucking vibroswords in addition to his stupid damn techblade. Add some stupid aim ones and go with it! We get scattergun drops with +aim on them because of the dumb trooper medic, would the world end with +aim vibroswords? Graah!
Or shit, have the dude use str/end. It makes more sense. ><
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tmp
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Qyzen should have claws and teeth slots. What sort of self-respecting dinosaur uses sticks to hunt with, anyway.
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caladein
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Put me down as also not understanding why they split off Techblades/Techstaves as their own weapon classes apart from Vibroswords/Electrostaves and/or didn't bother itemizing them fully.
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Or shit, have the dude use str/end. It makes more sense. ><
This. It's how they do it for Khem and it makes Synthweaving useful, at least in the early levels, since you can make gear for both of you.
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Sjofn
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On the upside, Captain Kalah is making her fortune selling techblades on the godawful GTN!
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