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						| Threash 
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 I skipped all the betas and haven't actually read much about the classes so i am completely blank as to what to play.  I'm going darkside, but i'd like to hear about all classes if possible. |  
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						| kildorn 
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						| Evildrider 
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 Do you want to shoot people, or lightsaber it up?
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						| luckton 
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 Shamelessly ripped from Reddit.  A WoW class comparison.  
 
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						| Fordel 
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 Do you want to shoot people, or lightsaber it up?
 Oh, i guess i prefer melee to ranged or magic but i am keeping an open mind.Using a gun or lightsaber has no bearing if you are melee or ranged.  -edit-  Shield Specialist / Shield Tech (tank) - Pally tank w/o HoPo but more dot focused - mid ranged tank <--- that's wrong, we have one fucking DoT.  |  
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						| Threash 
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 Thanks, some of those charts are quite helpful. |  
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						| Maledict 
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 Yeah - that list isnt that accurate really. For example, the IA plays more like a rogue than a Sith assassin in dps mode - it has backstabbing, ambush, enhanced stealth capabilities and an energy bar. As a healer it's a cross between a Druid and a paladin - it doesn't have anywhere near as many hots as a resto Druid, but does have a holy power mechanic that it can burn to drop large single target heals on a person. 
 The chart is very useful though - they are aiming for all classes to do their roles equally, so it explains fairly well what each class can get up to. The only caveat is that the operative / scoundrel healer class is not ranged as that chart indicates. It has one reliable ranged attack with a 10 metre range, and it's dps talents all push it into melee range really. It's a rogue with healing,and you certainly wouldn't want one as a ranged dps.
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						| Lantyssa 
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						| Viin 
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 Me too. I may play IA just because I like playing rarer combos... |  
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 Fuck, I am totally playing a bounty hunter just for the jawa. Eventually.
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						| Draegan 
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						| Evildrider 
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 I'm at this point:
 Before my first beta weekend:
 Imperial Agent - Sniper. This was my original first choice.  It will probably be one of the least played classes and I liked the idea of the cover mechanic.
 
 Then I played the Trooper in my first beta weekend which led me to:
 Bounty Hunter - Mercenary - DPS.  I really liked playing as a trooper and then I also found out about Blizz.
 
 Then in my last beta weekend:
 Sith Warrior - Juggernaut - DPS.  I played as a Jedi Knight and really had a good time, plus Vette is awesome.
 
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						| Nevermore 
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 Jedi Shadow/Assassin is not really a stealth class at all.
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 It's not ... I don't know how to really explain it. But you can essentially forget you even HAVE stealth and not lose anything by it, especially if you're the tank specced sort. |  
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						| Fordel 
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 It's like saying my Balance Druid is a stealth 'class'. Just having access to the ability doesn't mean your spec revolves around it... or even acknowledges it.  Also:   |  
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						| Nevermore 
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 That makes them not a Roguish type class, sure.  Even then I'm pretty sure there's one or two strikes that you use out of stealth and the Infiltration tree has a couple of skills that modify stealth, including one that helps to regen Force.
 But in all the years I played my Minstrel in DAoC, no one ever told me I wasn't playing a 'stealth class' just because I didn't need the stealth to do all my other Minstrelly things.  As a matter of fact, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth about how Albion had more stealth classes than the other two realms.
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						| Fordel 
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 Because the Minstrel was built around that stealth. All of those abilities are working on the assumption you have access to stealth. 
 Conversely nothing my Balance Druid does assumes I actually even know stealth exists for my class.
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 As a matter of fact, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth about how Albion had more stealth classes than the other two realms.
 99% of that was from other stealthers who didn't like how a CCing stealth class unbalanced the weird little stealther vs. stealther minigame. |  
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 Because the Minstrel was built around that stealth. All of those abilities are working on the assumption you have access to stealth. 
 Conversely nothing my Balance Druid does assumes I actually even know stealth exists for my class.
 
 Seriously?  Please to explain to the person who played a Minstrel for years which of 'all of those abilities' you're referring to?  Because you could easily play a Minstrel without ever knowing the class even had stealth, and I knew people who played just like that. I'm frankly almost incredulous that taking the position of 'stealth class = class with stealth' is considered some kind of radical idea. |  
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						| Sjofn 
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 Yeah from what I recall, there were pretty much no cares available in Midgard from the non-stealth-mini-game people about minstrels having stealth. |  
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						| sinij 
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 I am in the same boat as Threash.
 What class has decent level of survivability (control or cooldowns), is ranged and strong in PvP?
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						| Evildrider 
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 I am in the same boat as Threash.
 What class has decent level of survivability (control or cooldowns), is ranged and strong in PvP?
 
 Imperial Agent - Sniper.  However the cover system kinda makes them kind of different to play.  People tend to either love it or hate it. |  
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						| sinij 
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 Would 'cover' make it non-viable in PvP? That is, your opponents would force you to fight in the open/areas without cover? |  
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 You can put up your cover anywhere you want.  It used to be there were certain spots but it made the system clunky.  At early levels you can drop into cover as long as you have an object between you and them (also I think even if there is no object you get a bonus).  Then when you get your portable force field you can drop it wherever. 
 Cover also stops stuff like the Jedi/Sith charge ability from being able to target you if they are in your forward arc.
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						| sinij 
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						| Fordel 
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 I am in the same boat as Threash.
 What class has decent level of survivability (control or cooldowns), is ranged and strong in PvP?
 
 Commando/Mercenary you get all of the above.  |  
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						| Draegan 
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 If youre not attached to anything in particular....
 First play a ranged class.
 Second make sure you can spec healing.
 
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						| Sjofn 
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