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Reply #1295 on: May 31, 2017, 08:51:46 AM

The main problem with ESPN is their ratings don't match up with the costs they paid to keep FOX and the like out of their nest in the live sports broadcast business.

The secondary problem is the internet exists, and highlight shows are pointless because I can get every highlight I want on demand now instead of waiting to watch some talking head spit it out. The sportscenter model was fine, but now they have no idea what they want to do with it. They have been tied to it forever, so they are trying to "rebrand" them (see the 6PM version with Jemele and Michael) so they can keep one toe in the past while trying to shift to the future.

The reason you see all these human interest stories is because you've already seen the highlights, and you can get the scores on your phone. ESPN is trying to figure out a way to get content into Sportscenter you haven't seen yet, and they simply don't know how to do that without losing their base and turning into the social news network as it mildly relates to sports or TMZ for Sports.

Back to this topic... John Clayton got canned.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/05/31/john-clayton-out-at-espn/

Seriously wtf is going on over there. Someone is going to stockpile these guys on a new channel.

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Reply #1296 on: May 31, 2017, 09:24:09 AM

He was one of the few writers over there on the NFL beat that I thought was worth a shit.

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Reply #1297 on: May 31, 2017, 10:43:52 AM

Unfortunately, relegation will NEVER happen in the US. Can you imagine telling a US billionaire owner that his team has to play in the scrub league next season because he didn't invest enough to build a winner (or even mid-table team)?

That's what I think takes so much away from US sports. Not having the constant up and down and changing appearance of the European Soccer leagues. It's just infinitely more drama and excitement.

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Reply #1298 on: May 31, 2017, 11:55:55 AM

Yes, with relegation, losing has CONSEQUENCES, and those are swift and economic in nature. The owners rightly fear their team sucking ass.

Whereas in the NFL, teams can blow goats for decades at a time and continue to make stupid profits. See Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, or the Cleveland Browns forever.

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Reply #1299 on: May 31, 2017, 12:47:51 PM

Yes, with relegation, losing has CONSEQUENCES, and those are swift and economic in nature. The owners rightly fear their team sucking ass.

Whereas in the NFL, teams can blow goats for decades at a time and continue to make stupid profits. See Jerry Jones and the Dallas Cowboys, or the Cleveland Browns forever.

HEY! we might win 5-6 games this year. Or maybe next year, but definitely 2019.


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Reply #1300 on: May 31, 2017, 01:35:58 PM

Ironic how American sports are quite socialist in their nature.

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Reply #1301 on: May 31, 2017, 02:09:06 PM

Ironic how American sports are quite socialist in their nature.

With powerful unions even and evenly shared profits.

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Reply #1302 on: June 01, 2017, 12:41:29 PM

Ironic how American sports are quite socialist in their nature.

With powerful unions even and evenly shared profits.

Absolutely, the game is completely rigged and relegation is as likely as the US getting rid of the electoral college.

That's why the Cleveland Browns are allowed to exist. In Europe the Browns would have long ago been relegated to that team that plays on the village square between the school field day and the pensioners parade.

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Reply #1303 on: June 01, 2017, 12:49:15 PM

That's why the Cleveland Browns are allowed to exist. In Europe the Browns would have long ago been relegated to that team that plays on the village square between the school field day and the pensioners parade.

I don't know, I think the Browns would actually benefit from a divisional system with relegation as they - just like the Raiders during their drought period - have some very loyal fans who are in it more for all the other reasons than the record. There's one of those "has-beens" with a rabid fan base that actually grew after relegation in every 2nd league in Soccer. They are often seen as more 'pure' than the big juggernauts and sell just as much merch domestically.

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Reply #1304 on: June 01, 2017, 02:55:54 PM

No no, the Browns would find a way to fuck up any goodwill they'd have by the time they hit relegation #2.

They should be playing in a south Texas field somewhere, not the NFL. Actually South Texas might be too tough.

Western Iowa.

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Reply #1305 on: September 26, 2017, 07:25:55 PM

Louisville is completely fucked.  And Kansas better hope their shit is in order, because I have a feeling the feds will be coming for them too.  And all the Nike schools better hope that they run a better hustle than Adidas.   Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #1306 on: September 26, 2017, 07:48:27 PM

Seems like a number of schools are fucked.
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Reply #1307 on: September 27, 2017, 09:01:06 AM

Good. College basketball has been absolute trash for the last decade under the one and done draft rules. I'd say blow the whole damn thing up and start over.

These players coming out of one and done haven't even been good. Here's a list of those coming out of their Freshman year:

Tyrus Thomas
Shawne Williams
Greg Oden
Kevin Durant
Al Horford

Mike Conley
Brandon Wright
Spencer Hawes
Thaddius Young
Javaris Crittenton
Daequan Cook
Derrick Rose
Michael Beasley
OJ Mayo
Kevin Love
Eric Gordan
Jerryd Bayless
Anthony Randolph
JJ Hickson
Kosta Koufos
Donte Green
Deandre Jordan
Bill Walker
Tyreke Evans
DeMar DeRozen
Jrue Holiday

Byron Mullens
John Wall
Derek Favors
DeMarcus Cousins
Xavier Henry
Eric Bledsoe
Avery Bradley
Daniel Orton
Hassan Whiteside
Lance Stephenson
Tiny Gallon

And that's just from 2006 to 2010. It gets even worse beyond that. I bolded the All-Stars in the group.


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Reply #1308 on: September 27, 2017, 10:17:24 AM

TIL: there is a guy in the NBA named Tiny Gallon.  awesome, for real

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Reply #1309 on: September 27, 2017, 07:32:07 PM

Man, the local paper in Champaign (which gets most of its subscriptions and page views by baiting the racists around town with stories that paint the University of Illinois in a bad light) is going nuts about the fact that one of Underwood's former assistants from when he was at Oklahoma State surrendered to the FBI yesterday.

Underwood hasn't even coached a game yet at Illinois  why so serious?

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Reply #1310 on: September 27, 2017, 08:26:14 PM

Rumor is that Arizona will lose its entire 2018 recruiting class.   Sad Panda

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Reply #1311 on: October 09, 2017, 08:27:28 PM

Cavaliers have actually assembled a pretty bad ass starting five.  Maybe they can make a serious run at the Warriors this year.
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