NFL 2011

[HaemishM]

I might have believed Newton was overrated after doing so well against the Cardinals. But this was the Packers, whose defense is no easy thing to overcome. 400+ yards both games? I'm thinking he may be the real deal. Especially considering the Panthers had NO rushing game whatsoever in either game. That means he was making throws. Yeah, he probably missed a lot he'll make as he gets more experienced, but damn. 4 INT's in two games is to be expected with a rookie. It's too early to anoint him a HOFamer, but he's certainly going to be better than I expected on a really shitty team.

The Lions are for real. Their defense gave up some runs early but then just shut shit down. Cassel got nothing but INT's. Jahvid Best looks like the real deal, and Stafford picked this defense apart. I think they really are going to miss Eric Berry more than anyone could have imagined. Also, the Chiefs need to learn what unnecessary roughness is. The first Detroit TD came on the play after two straight 15 yard penalties for STUPID shit.

The Saints showed the Bears what a lights out passing offense is. Oh and what a sack to the face is, as well. Cutler looked very ordinary and if not for a totally ticky-tack roughing the passer call against the Saints, the Bears might not have scored a TD at all.

The Bills looks legit as well. CJ Spiller is a beast mode runner, and Fitzpatrick may be the best QB they've had since Jim Kelly - which isn't saying much but he won them the game.

I can't even process the Chargers/Patriots game. I only watched bits and pieces of it and what I do know is 1) Tom Brady is money, 2) TE's should not catch the ball that well and 3) the Chargers have some tall get up and get it receivers.

The Eagles/Falcons game was every bit as exciting as advertised. The Falcons have some serious issues against a good pass rushing team and the Eagles defense doesn't seem to be suffering too much from a lack of experienced, quality LB. They are very susceptible to the run because of it, but their pass rush and coverage is just crazy good. Matt Ryan can get it done at home, just not in the playoffs yet. Also, Kafka isn't a bad QB for your 3rd string guy. QB CONTROVERSY!!!!

[Rasix]

Matt Leinart had 400 yards in a game his rookie year.  Just sayin'... 

Newton does look good.  Better and more accurate than I thought he'd be.  Plus, the guy just looks like a monster out there.  Like a fit verison of Daunte Culpepper. Still, he'll come back to earth at some point and despite the gaudy yardage numbers, I'd bet money he finishes the year with more picks than passing TDs. 

Kolb doesn't look that bad right now.  No Kurt Warner, but completely serviceable.

The Chiefs are just something to behold right now.  I'd say, Cassel or not, they're in the lead for Andrew Luck right now. 

[Paelos]

I think Cutler just got sacked again.

[HaemishM]

Yeah, Newton will probably have more picks than TD's. What I'm surprised at is that he doesn't have more TE receptions than he does. He's actually spreading the ball around a good bit, though most of them are to Steve Smith. But to hang around with Green Bay, that's a pretty big statement.

Of course, it might be due to the lockout. Defenses seem to be getting torched early this year, and it's probably because the defenses are a few weeks behind the offenses even though they started in training camp at the same time. Kind of how special teams are just fuckawful since none of the scrubs that make up the special teams got anywhere near the workout they should have.

Also, yes, it has been confirmed again. Mike Martz is rubbish at protecting a QB, even on days they aren't playing. Cutler probably gets sacked in line at the grocery store.

[Nevermore]

Actually, he breezes through the checkout there because he has no line. 

[Paelos]

 

[HaemishM]

Actually, he breezes through the checkout there because he has no line. 

Win. 

[Ingmar]

Cutler is also fairly terrible at protecting himself, to be fair.

[ghost]

Matt Leinart had 400 yards in a game his rookie year.  Just sayin'... 

And that's really the whole point-  Leinart is really, really talented he just likes to party.  I can't say I blame him that much.  One of the best jobs in the world is holding a clipboard on the NFL sideline.  Leinart would be starting if he would work.  It remains to be seen if Newton has the work ethic and the smarts to make it work long term in the league.

[Ingmar]

Oh hey, another black quarterback has his work ethic and smarts questioned immediately on hitting the league, what are the odds?

[Rasix]

Any first round QB with that much athleticism and questionable accuracy is going to be scrutinized.  Nothing despite some of his comments (overblown) has led us to believe that Cam doesn't put in the work or is just in this for the pay day.  Shit, just look at his build.  At least with guys like JaMarcus you could say that he looked like a 300lb wad of chewed bubblegum and didn't seem to take the conditioning requirements of his position seriously.

[ghost]

Oh hey, another black quarterback has his work ethic and smarts questioned immediately on hitting the league, what are the odds?

Oh, don't pull that shit.  I have that view of Leinart, who is white, and of Carson Palmer, who is white.  

Look, Newton has it all.  He can obviously get things done and is highly talented.  The point is that the only thing that will hold him back is himself. 

[Paelos]

Oh hey, another black quarterback has his work ethic and smarts questioned immediately on hitting the league, what are the odds?

Dude was arrested for stealing a laptop. He allegedly left Florida under 3 counts of academic cheating violations. His dad was accused of pay for play negotiations. One of the most awkward scandals in the NCAA surrounded the kid.

I think he's the going to be fine, but the questions are valid based on his conduct and high-profile SEC quarterbacks generally sucking at the next level. JaMarcus Russell, Brodie Croyle, Jason Campbell, Jake Cutler, Tim Tebow, Matt Stafford, Eric Ainge, Matt Flynn, DJ Shockley, and I can go on and on and on.

Unless your name happens to be Manning.

[K9]

I know Matt Flynn doesn't get a lot of play, but then he's under Aaron Rodgers. The one time he did start he had a pretty decent game I thought.

[Ingmar]

Meh, I'm not trying to single any of you out, the media drives this stuff as much as anything. But it happens every. Single. Time.

[Paelos]

Meh, I'm not trying to single any of you out, the media drives this stuff as much as anything. But it happens every. Single. Time.

And until a black QB wins the Super Bowl in the new era of the NFL, it will continue to happen. Just like people questioning whether a QB can be red-headed. Yes, people actually wonder about it. It doesn't just happen with QBs either. There's always the constant questions of recreational marijuana use and laziness that surround young black players coming into the NFL.

I mean it's been 23 years since Doug Williams won in 1988, and these are old ass white guys running a multibillion dollar league. Of course it's racist, but the QB these days is literally the most important total thing on any NFL team.

[ghost]

Meh, I'm not trying to single any of you out, the media drives this stuff as much as anything. But it happens every. Single. Time.

I actually haven't read anything in the media about him other than good stuff.  I was just going off the past experience of basically every other fucktard quarterback getting to the league and either being too dumb (Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch) or too lazy (Jamarcus Russel, Matt Leinart) to make it happen.  It's hard to find people that want to continue to work hard once they've gotten that 5 million dollar contract.

[HaemishM]

So, the Giants are a really bad team that manages to win on talent and dumb luck. The Rams are an up and coming team with a stud QB that needs... something. I'm sold on Bradford, but not so much on Josh McDaniels' offense. Bradford seemed to get very little in the way of protection, and I'm reminded of Mike Martz. Lots of gaudy numbers and lots of QB's in the dirt. He also needs a RB (Cadillac Williams did not look starting quality anymore) and some receivers with breakaway speed. Their LB corp looks solid, their front 4 on defense are decent, their corners... not so much.

[Nevermore]

Rams top RB and WR were both out with injuries and that game was still a lot closer than the score would indicate.  On the other hand, their schedule is brutal outside of their division.

[Sjofn]

So, the Giants are a really bad team that manages to win on talent and dumb luck.

I'll take it! 

[Draegan]

Hey, I'll take the defense making the Rams settle for FGs a few times from inside the 20.

[Segoris]

Hey, I'll take the defense making the clock stop by being soccer pussies with fake injuries

 

[Nebu]

Best part of the Monday night game was watching Laurinitis play.  The guy is a beast. 

[HaemishM]

Best part of the Monday night game was watching Laurinitis play.  The guy is a beast. 

That's what stood out to me about the Rams defense, how well ALL their linebackers tackled. There were a few times where he in particular just grabbed a motherfucker with both arms and pulled the runner down on strength alone. It was awesome.

[ghost]

You should be a beast with a name like Laurinitis.  That's pretty much badass. 

[Paelos]

That was a terrible MNF game. I lost all interest by halftime.

[naum]

That was a terrible MNF game. I lost all interest by halftime.

This was my favorite part of the game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ_uvxsfGpY&feature=player_embedded

[Paelos]

Haha, what a dick.

Giants. Lulz. 

[MuffinMan]

Ha, I remember that but I didn't think it actually hit him at the time. Any gifs yet of the two Giants dropping at the same time for an injury timeout?

[ghost]

That seems like it could instigate a lawsuit in the future. 

[Ruvaldt]

Ha, I remember that but I didn't think it actually hit him at the time. Any gifs yet of the two Giants dropping at the same time for an injury timeout?

Yep!

[Fordel]

Haha what the shit, how is that not a penalty?

[Sjofn]

 

Oh, Giants!  


PS: Grant is clearly the better actor.

[Paelos]

SNIPER!

<flop>

[Cyrrex]

Really, what a half ass attempt on both their parts...better to spectacularly over-do it than that lame shit.  They could learn a great deal by watching Italian soccer.