Battlefield 3

[Threash]

The only problem with the unlocks is that i can't tell if i'm getting better or if it's the better weapon/scope/accessories that are making me play better.

[WayAbvPar]

For assault (medic) leveling before defibs, just drop med packs and cap points. 3 Capped points should be more than enough to unlock defibs (which is at like 700 points or something). Alternatively hide in a dark corner and shoot some people in the back 

[rk47]

Or just join operation metro and drop heal packs. lol. I finished Operation Metro for the first time during releaase...gawd that map was awful...all the teammate bodies sliding down the escalator.  Tasty revives is all I care about.

[caladein]

Metro Conquest is both awful and completely hilarious.  I love it when that map comes up as long as it's not very often.

[Mrbloodworth]

[Azazel]

What happened?

[Mrbloodworth]

Same shit that always happens. I have to deal with customer service. Apparently I have more than one account each with games on it, they won't merge them, they changed the e-mail to the wrong things, and this bot of a rep keeps telling me BF3 is not on steam. As if I asked.

[Sky]

BF3 is not on steam.

Despite my protestations, if it was I'd probably own it now. So quick and easy to pillage my wallet on steam.

Thanks, Origin!

[rk47]

Future EA Titles will have Origin-only content in them...Fuuuuuuuuu-

[Azazel]

Meh, with a few exceptions, my gaming has been moving more and more console-ward due to the endless stream of bullshit on the PC side.

[tgr]

I'm just playing less FPS games, myself. The FPS genre is more or less a dying genre to me. Thanks, EA, Activision, Ubisoft etc, for saving me money.

[caladein]

Finally got to put some more time in tonight after a week and I really didn't notice people's higher ranks (~15-20 to ~30-40) with regards to my performance.  Still using stuff I unlocked the first or second night I played and did well.

Also, since they updated the server browser (yay!) a suggestion if you find most Conquest servers too hectic: try a 32 player server running Conquest Large.  You still get the scale that I love but people are a bit more sparse.

[Outlawedprod]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV4LDCgWMdI

[disKret]

Never played BF before.
Oh my... this game is a mess. Is there any posibility that I will finaly see enemy before they kill me? It looks like all of them are running with some kind of enemy-tracker (except me). They see me from everywhere.

[kildorn]

Never played BF before.
Oh my... this game is a mess. Is there any posibility that I will finaly see enemy before they kill me? It looks like all of them are running with some kind of enemy-tracker (except me). They see me from everywhere.

The other team is spotting. It's a thing in BF. If someone sees you, they press Q (or back), and you get a little orange triangle on your head and show on the minimap until you break LOS from the spotter for a bit.

If you're not seeing the hostiles like this, your team is not spotting well.

(also, TUGS and MAVS, both recon toys, have motion sensors in them)

[Valmorian]

The other team is spotting. It's a thing in BF.

One of the dumbest mechanics I have ever seen in a FPS.  Why oh WHY would they make you press a button for this?  If anything should be automatic, it should be this.

[ashrik]

I'd guess to separate the people who can press a single button while looking at an enemy from those who can't?

Spotting is so useful, I feel as if it's a shame to have it be done automatically on mouseover. I wouldn't want my gun to fire when it detects a possible hit either.

[kildorn]

The other team is spotting. It's a thing in BF.

One of the dumbest mechanics I have ever seen in a FPS.  Why oh WHY would they make you press a button for this?  If anything should be automatic, it should be this.

Because it has a hidden cooldown to prevent sweeping an area and revealing everyone hidden. It's a button press to make sure YOU spotted them.

[pants]

Never played BF before.
Oh my... this game is a mess. Is there any posibility that I will finaly see enemy before they kill me? It looks like all of them are running with some kind of enemy-tracker (except me). They see me from everywhere.

Coming from team fortress 2 (I played 1942 and BF2 a few years ago) - this is the biggest learning curve for BF3.  Seeing an enemy is hard.  They're small and they tend to hide behind the cover which is all over the map.  Learning where good cover is, where the bad guys will probably be coming from, and then flanking the bad guys so they don't see where you are coming from, is a major skill to learn with BF3.  My first few days I was getting hammered since I couldn't see anyone - but once you start to get a feel for the maps and what the bad guys look like, things improve.  Then you start doing some flanking and the like, and you start to rack up some kills.  And thats before you start including spotting.

[kildorn]

You also quickly learn that unless you outnumber the hostiles, you're probably not going to take the point. There are occasions when you simply out class them, but a lone random bullet to the head from an automatic will put down any delusions of rambo.

[Threash]

Yeah, not even if you are in a tank.

[sinij]

Now that novelty worn off, I am getting progressively more annoyed at BF3. 90% of the game is getting shot/shooting at somone from some dark corner or bushes. Game rewards camping so much, its not funny.

[waffel]

Just an FYI about co-op, there are 7 unlocks you get while doing it that work in multiplayer. However, if you ever ran through co-op you'll realize that after doing each mission once, they aren't very exciting or fun. The idea of grinding them out for hours to get the unlocks isn't appealing.

Thankfully, they're so poorly done that its possible to game the system and get all the unlocks in less than an hour.

The trick is to do all the missions to unlock the final mission. Set final mission on easy and just sprint past all the enemies all the way to the first bomb. Fail the bomb disarm and the blast from the bomb will kill everyone on the map (about 45-50 enemies and yourself)  these count as kills on the end game progression screen giving you roughly ~5000 points per run. Sprinting to the bomb takes about 30 seconds.

Rinse and repeat until you get all the unlocks, then never look back.

[Ingmar]

Meh, with a few exceptions, my gaming has been moving more and more console-ward due to the endless stream of bullshit on the PC side.

That's really just trading one brand of exclusivity bullshit for another though.

[Azazel]

It's more the DRM bullshit that's turning me off. Along with every other publisher deciding that they want to be mini-steam now.

[tgr]

It's more the DRM bullshit that's turning me off. Along with every other publisher deciding that they want to be mini-steam now.

What are you going to do when they require you authenticate your game on your console, too?

First they came for the PC games, and I didn't cry out because I wasn't a PC gamer, etc etc etc.

[Margalis]

What are you going to do when they require you authenticate your game on your console, too?

That's basically already happening with some console downloadable games as well as with this online pass / dlc code crap.

On PC this stuff seems pretty cyclical. I remember the days of having to have the CD in the drive, and the days of needing information from the instruction manual, but interspersed with days of being able to easily copy PC games with zero protection. Maybe it's a a grass is always greener sort of thing and the pendulum is doomed to swing back and forth forever.

[Valmorian]

Because it has a hidden cooldown to prevent sweeping an area and revealing everyone hidden. It's a button press to make sure YOU spotted them.

Wonderful, so if you spot a few people at once, now you can't even highlight all of them because of the cooldown.

[bhodi]

BC2 had the same cooldown. The spot is probably identical: a cone, and I think you get 3-5 spots that 'regenerate' at the rate of 1 spot per 2 seconds or something.

[AcidCat]

I'm really loving the Engineer. I'm a mine planting fool and pubbies line up to drive over them all round long.

[Jimbo]

Can we buy Samprimary the game so he can give us another great chapter?  http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=3827.msg95594#msg95594

I felt like he did, I totally sucked at flying in BF2 but loved the tanks and apc's, plus favorite kit was a mix of engineer, special forces, support, and medic.

Is Wake Island in the game yet?

[rk47]

See a wall? Blow it up. If Friendly Fire is off, all bets are off. :O I had instances where I blew a wall without knowing what's behind it and killing people behind it. XD

Funniest moment was when I planted 6 C4 charges on a building, set it off and it didn't collapse, confused I went inside to blow it up from within. It collapsed as I vaulted over the crumbling wall. Suicide. 

[Threash]

Heh, yeah i love how on the rush missions you can literally destroy the base to a pile of rubble but it will not harm the objective at all.

[Malakili]

Heh, yeah i love how on the rush missions you can literally destroy the base to a pile of rubble but it will not harm the objective at all.

Is this a deliberate change from how it worked in BC2, or am I not understanding what you are talking about?

[Threash]

You have to go tag the objective with an infantry guy and then keep the bomb from being defused for a set amount of time, even though you can reduce the entire base the objective is in to rubble from long range.