The Dark Knight Rises

[Ragnoros]

Saw this myself last week. Thought it a bit of a mess. But an enjoyable enough one.

Tannhauser:

[rk47]

he came to Blake's orphanage 'as a billionaire orphan' public appearance.
then blake, who spent time 'hiding behind a mask of happy kid while being angry inside' realize that wayne has that same look about him. And to channel that anger, Wayne becomes Batman.

lmao. it sounds stupid but that's how i remembered blake's explanation in the movie.

[SurfD]

he came to Blake's orphanage 'as a billionaire orphan' public appearance.
then blake, who spent time 'hiding behind a mask of happy kid while being angry inside' realize that wayne has that same look about him. And to channel that anger, Wayne becomes Batman.

lmao. it sounds stupid but that's how i remembered blake's explanation in the movie.

I imagine there was more to it then just that.  That appearance may have been the seed that eventually allowed him to put two and two together after a much longer time.  It is quite easy to picture him putting the pieces together after, say, Batman AND Wayne both dissapear from society at the same time after Dent's death if he is already operating on the assumption that Wayne is a little off to begin with.

[K9]

I assumed he knew because he would have known that Bruce Wayne had been part of the League of Shadows

[SurfD]

I assumed he knew because he would have known that Bruce Wayne had been part of the League of Shadows

Wrong character?  We are discussing the Blake (robin) character and his ability to pin Wayne down as Batman.  I think you are thinking of Bane.

[Lantyssa]

[NowhereMan]

[Riggswolfe]

You know, I was as disappointed with this movie as I was pleasantly surprised by the Avengers. DKR is not a bad movie but it is not up to the level of the first two films. Too rushed. Too packed. Not enough Batman. Plot 'twists' that were telegraphed way too much. Seriously, every twist in this movie was explicitly set up and you were practically led to it by a glowing arrow on your mini-map.

[Furiously]

When Alfred was talking to Bruce about his yearly vacations, about a 1/4 of the way into the movie, while Bruce was away training, my wife turns to me and says, "Well... there's the end of the movie."

[Riggswolfe]

When Alfred was talking to Bruce about his yearly vacations, about a 1/4 of the way into the movie, while Bruce was away training, my wife turns to me and says, "Well... there's the end of the movie."

Exactly the kind of heavy handed foreshadowing I referred to.

[Ironwood]

Just saw this with the wife and enjoyed it.

But.

It wasn't very good, was it ?

[murdoc]

I quite liked it until I rewatched 'Batman Begins' and 'The Dark Knight'.

It really wasn't that good.

[Miasma]

It was the third best batman movie ever.  This still puts in the top five all time action movies.

[Ironwood]

Been bugging me all night.


Wait, What ?   

And there was a LOT of stuff like that in there.  It was a fucking Car Crash of Dark Knight Returns and Knightfall and it really, really, really hadn't been thought through.  Even the chronology was off.

[SurfD]

Eh, I am still trying to figure out how he somehow managed to

[Ironwood]

Because he's Batman.

[UnSub]

The problem is that pretty much all of Nolan's Batman films suffer from, "because the script says so". How does Gotham destroying itself achieve anything for the League of Shadows? How does the Joker pull off even half of what he manages?

Doesn't matter, because the script says that's what happens. Also, action scenes and chronology aren't his strong suit either.

Been bugging me all night.


Wait, What ?   

[Ironwood]

Nah, that's wank.

Also, how the fuck did Bane eat?

[MuffinMan]

His mask was also a GoGurt delivery system.

[Ironwood]

That builds some real fucking muscle.

(In all seriousness, Christ, but did that boy bulk up for that part.  Fucking Hell.)

[sickrubik]

That builds some real fucking muscle.

(In all seriousness, Christ, but did that boy bulk up for that part.  Fucking Hell.)

Dude is pretty Daniel Day-Lewish when he takes on roles. He's quickly becoming a "must see his next thing" kinda person for me.

[KallDrexx]

His mask was also a GoGurt delivery system.

LOL my wife is wondering wtf I just randomly burst out laughing at

[UnSub]

I was watching Tom Hardy in "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" a week or two ago - he really is a chameleon for his roles.

Actually, looking at who Nolan casts - Oldman, Bale, Hardy - it seems to be a type of actor he favours.

[Ghambit]

Supporting actor nomination for Hardy?  I think so.  Him and Fassbender have my votes this year.  Really, I've loved Hardy since Nemesis (as shittastic as that movie was, his Shinzon was the best part of the film).   Those two right now are on every casting director's short list evidently.

edit: Oh and I just now saw this and tbh I thought the new Spiderman was slightly better.

[SurfD]

Nah, that's wank.

Also, how the fuck did Bane eat?

[Ironwood]

I've figured it out.  Bane was actually Auric Goldfinger.  I'd been thinking the entire movie how the hell he did that cheery and happy 'I'm going to pull out your guts with a spoon' over the top scariness and I realised that he wouldn't have been out of place AT ALL if he'd said 'No, Mr Wayne, I expect you to die!'

Hmmm.

[shiznitz]

I saw the movie this weekend.  While I cannot disagree with all the plot criticisms laid out above this post, I have to say that I thought the movie delivered powerfully.  I think the high quality acting and excellent pacing pulled it together for me.  I loved the Miranda twist.  I guess I was too absorbed to see it coming.

[Ironwood]

Excellent Pacing ?

Did you see a different version than I did ?

[MuffinMan]

I quite liked it until I rewatched 'Batman Begins' and 'The Dark Knight'.

It really wasn't that good.

This is what happened to me but in the reverse since I watched the marathon at the theater. After Batman Begins I was like , after Dark Knight I was like  , then after Dark Knight Rises I was like... oh.

[Lantyssa]

Excellent Pacing ?

I'm not sure I'd call it excellent pacing, however the movie did keep flowing.  It never felt like it had moments of down-time.

I think that might have hurt it considering the length.

[Ironwood]

It flowed badly once you applied any thought to it whatsoever.  Time was treated with contempt.


Though I do like the idea of the Wayne Foundation Spine Repair Unit which is basically a large warehouse with about 200 ropes suspended from the roof.

[01101010]

It flowed badly once you applied any thought to it whatsoever.  Time was treated with contempt.


Though I do like the idea of the Wayne Foundation Spine Repair Unit which is basically a large warehouse with about 200 ropes suspended from the roof.

See... you sir are coming at it all wrong. American movies, especially actions and romantic comedies, should never be thought about. Just get in the car, buckle up, keep you god damn arms and legs inside, and hang on. That's all.

[Ironwood]

I'd accept that fine (as I said, I enjoyed the movie) if it wasn't for the fact that the first two had been exceptional in that regard.  It gave me a fairly realistic and believable Batman.

This one was all kinds of mental.


Though Dear God, Anne looked good in that outfit on the bike.

[sickrubik]

There was a bike?

[Ironwood]

You may know it as the Anne Hathaway Bender Over Device.