The Dark Knight Rises

[Ingmar]

There's a non-zero chance I'm completely confusing the two movies in my head. I remember they both have guys in overcoats.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I've seen both and dick tracy is only somewhat watchable. Still, both were made before comic movies were taken even remotely serious. I think some kind of alternate setting/timline batman is really the only way to go with an inevitable reboot since fans have seen all the possible "modern day batmans" Plus, more toys to make! it's win-win.

[sickrubik]

There really isn't going to be a reboot, per say... and Christopher Nolan is kind of moving into a structure to guide the creative path via producing.

What we will probably see is more of a traditional Batman, free from the baggage of post-Miller somewhat.

[MuffinMan]

There really isn't going to be a reboot, per say... and Christopher Nolan is kind of moving into a structure to guide the creative path via producing.

Well, he's producing Man of Steel but he said recently about Batman

“Batman will outlive us all, and our interpretation was ours. Obviously, we consider it definitive and kind of finished. The great thing about Batman is he lives on for future generations to reinterpret, and obviously, Warners will have to decide in the future what they’re going to do with him,” Nolan said. “We’ve had our say on the character. I’ve got no plans to do anything more, and certainly, no involvement with any Justice League project.”

That sounds to me like he won't have any hand in Batman after this, things may change of course if he changes his mind is given a Scrooge McDuck money vault.

[El Gallo]

I hope the next iteration is more like the dark, morally ambiguous Burton batman and less like the current idealized-cop-in-a-costume/Superman-with-gadgets version.  It'll still get my $11, of course.

[sickrubik]

Ah, I see he's shot that down. Too bad. :( I was quite into the idea of him taking on the creative director role for that stuff. If DC is smart, they will throw Scrooge McDuck money at him. Especially after fumbling the Joss Whedon/Wonder Woman stuff.

[Fordel]

Why don't they just let the guys who write out all the JLU cartoons do it?

[HaemishM]

Why don't they just let the guys who write out all the JLU cartoons do it?

That's a good fucking question. Paul Dini could do some fucking awesome stuff with a Justice League script.

[sickrubik]

Write? Sure. Direct? No.

[MuffinMan]

They really need to sow the Justice League seed somewhere and I think it all hinges on Man of Steel. Certainly why they got Nolan on it to try and ensure success. Reboot Batman in 2016, I'm okay with 4 years after DKR as long as it's for a Justice League movie. Get Flash and Wonder Woman done in the same time frame. I'm not sure that they really need a Green Lantern reboot or have time for another solo movie, stick John Stewart in there. Justice League in 2017.

DC, get your shit together. You're not going to get better timing than what you have right now.

[sickrubik]

Give Nolan all the money he wants. Just do it.

[tazelbain]

Nolan shouldn't be doing JL. Round peg, square hole.

Brad Bird is my vote.

[sickrubik]

I should clarify. I meant in a "let's get this shit done" manner.

Brad Bird is a fantastic choice for something like a JLA movie.

[UnSub]

George Miller (Mad Max, Happy Feet) was attached to the JLA project that didn't take off.

[eldaec]

I honestly can't think of a more terrible idea for the DC IP than a JLA movie.

Except for batman the last good DC film was superman 2; you can't write superman or batman into a team; and every hero other than the big 2 is just too fucking fruity for film.

A JLA movie is a stupid idea and Nolan wouldn't go near it because he is not stupid. DC, if they have any sense, will just ride Marvel's wave, and appreciate the money hats they can make from any half decent superhero movie without having to compromise tone by fitting them into the same world as each other.

In other news, Batman sounds p cool.

[Evildrider]

Unless they do what Marvel did with their properties they aren't ever going to have a JL movie.  I mean Nolan's Batman wouldn't fit into a JL movie, so that means rebooting that franchise.  I have no clue how Man of Steel is going to end up, but with the last Superfail movie.. I don't have much hope.  Green Lantern pretty much blew.  The Flash and Wonder Woman I think could make decent movies but WW has been in a development hell for years.  Then you have Aquaman... who I guess you could just toss into the movie like they did Hawkeye in Avengers.  Last Martian Manhunter, who tends to be more interesting in the DC cartoons then in any written comic I've ever seen.

[Furiously]

I'd much rather see a legion of doom movie.

[Raguel]

I'd die laughing if there's a Supreme Power movie before a JL movie 

[Wasted]

Just got back from seeing this.  Its good.

Its only.... good.

I need a new word, something that means that something is good, you still enjoyed it, yet it didn't live up to expectations.  Something that isn't negative but shows that the level of awesome assumed was not quite reached.

[shiznitz]

Bad handjob?

[Riggswolfe]

Just got back from seeing this.  Its good.

Its only.... good.

I need a new word, something that means that something is good, you still enjoyed it, yet it didn't live up to expectations.  Something that isn't negative but shows that the level of awesome assumed was not quite reached.

In my circle of friends we call this the Titanic effect. Basically one of my friends heard for weeks how awesome that movie was from co-workers, family and friends and when he went to see it his general comment was "It was good but not as good as everyone made it out to be." I think if I was a Hollywood director I'd fear my movie getting hyped for exactly this reason.

[Rendakor]

Just finished seeing this as well; it was alright but not great. The Dark Knight was better. I'll post my full thoughts tomorrow, I've got work in 3 hours and need some sleep.

Also, there's nothing after the credits so save your time.

[Ironwood]

I'm really not sure how good it's going to be, but I know for a fact walking in that it won't be as good for me as I found The Dark Knight.

So my expectations are well managed.

[DraconianOne]

I think if I was a Hollywood director I'd fear my movie getting hyped for exactly this reason.

I think they'd mostly fear a) getting overhyped when the movie was awful and b) not making a return on the money. cf: "John Carter". I think the chances of this film tanking are very low and, let's face it, as word of mouth goes "It's good and I enjoyed it" isn't exactly a terrible review, even if it's not as good a review as "It's the best film ever!".

[Furiously]

You could try, "I was content with the film."

[MuffinMan]

I was content with the film.

[HaemishM]

I'm really not sure how good it's going to be, but I know for a fact walking in that it won't be as good for me as I found The Dark Knight.

So my expectations are well managed.

Yeah this. I don't expect anything in it to reach the heights of Dark Knight. As long as it isn't Batman & Robin bad, I'll probably be satisfied.

[Rasix]

I think you would have to actively try and make the movie bad to get that low.  Troll the shit out of your audience.  Cast Nic Cage as the Joker or Orlando Bloom as the Riddler and have the screenplay done by Len Wiseman and the Farrelly brothers. 

[Thrawn]

Cast Nic Cage as the Joker or Orlando Bloom as the Riddler... 

Or Anne Hathaway as Catwoman! 

(Ok, maybe she does a good job, haven't seen it yet.  Don't have very high hopes for that though.)

[Ingmar]

The reviews I've read say she's the best thing in it, actually. (Haven't seen it yet.)

[Wasted]

She was fine, there wasn't enough of her actually.  She does well enough to make her feel like a characater that got more screen time than she did.

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[Evildrider]

And, since I didn't throw the kitchen sink into this post yet:  I wonder why this kid in CO chose this movie.  Maybe because that would be a guaranteed full house.

Alfred Pennyworth: Because he thought it was good sport. Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.

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Indeed

[Khaldun]

I thought it was pretty great, actually. Interesting pastiche of three major comics stories, two of them expected, one less so. But a lot of original, smart elements as well.