Classic Ultima Online: IPY2 Launch date: Feb 11th

[LC]

Yeah, I think my murdering will mainly be done on throwaway macers and shit. I can't mage scrap like I used to, and damn twins make me go afk all the damn time.

I think it will be that way for a lot of people. Taking stat/skill loss at GM on this server would mean about 25 days of macroing in perfect conditions to get your skills back. Reds can only macro in houses at 50% skill gain rate so it might be faster to delete the character.

I've also heard a rumor that Az's friends get teleported to T2A for their own private use. It's funny how he hasn't made the GM logs available as he promised to do.

[Reg]

What's really funny is that you keep playing and commenting about this free game if it makes you so unhappy.

[Sheepherder]

I've also heard a rumor that Az's friends get teleported to T2A for their own private use.

So, you don't actually know and you're just sort of talking out your ass, like the last two or three times you heard a rumor?

[Slayerik]

Fuck T2A anyway ;)

[Xuri]

I heard a rumor that Az worships demons on his spare time and also that he bathes in goat-blood, and also that his mother got a buffed character on his server. Also, free houses for all the official UO-developers who play there.

[LC]

I've also heard a rumor that Az's friends get teleported to T2A for their own private use.

So, you don't actually know and you're just sort of talking out your ass, like the last two or three times you heard a rumor?

That's why it's a rumor. Isn't it strange that no logs (which were promised) have been posted? I remember the original IPY being pretty corrupt.

[UnSub]

he bathes in goat-blood,

Goat blood? With all the money he's making off this, he's upgraded to dolphin blood. I know a guy who knows a guy who sells Az his dolphin-killing knives.

[shiznitz]

I've also heard a rumor that Az's friends get teleported to T2A for their own private use.

So, you don't actually know and you're just sort of talking out your ass, like the last two or three times you heard a rumor?

That's why it's a rumor. Isn't it strange that no logs (which were promised) have been posted? I remember the original IPY being pretty corrupt.

Corruption hurts you how?

[CharlieMopps]

I've also heard a rumor that Az's friends get teleported to T2A for their own private use.

So, you don't actually know and you're just sort of talking out your ass, like the last two or three times you heard a rumor?

That's why it's a rumor. Isn't it strange that no logs (which were promised) have been posted? I remember the original IPY being pretty corrupt.

I don't even know where to start...

Like logs would mean anything...
HES PAYING FOR THE SERVER
Why do you even care?
There's nothing in T2A worth your time other than that spot all the cows spawn
Start your own server and shup up. It's easy enough.

[Slayerik]

Gained .5 last night at 85 just dungeoning. That's without a skill scroll drop. Things seem right to me at this level. Macroing isnt worth it anymore, it seems though.

[LC]

Gained .5 last night at 85 just dungeoning. That's without a skill scroll drop. Things seem right to me at this level. Macroing isnt worth it anymore, it seems though.

I can cap my fencing in a couple hours if I go in with a dagger and do nothing but stab skeletal knights. It takes several more hours to cap out supporting skills like tactics, anat, healing. I'm not saying its impossible, but it's not the casual friendly system it pretends to be.

It would be a lot better if your unused points during the weekdays were saved until the weekend. Allowing you to catch up on sat/sun. Then let them reset Sunday at midnight.

[Slayerik]

Yes, that would be more weekend warrior friendly for sure.

Overall I'm having fun, and starting to see some reds come out.

[Slayerik]

Been having fun as my red, you definitely have to play smart and not linger around after kills. About skill gain, I am now at almost 87 resist and 93 magery. I personally have no problem with the skill gain, I feel like I am earning a good character.

And Az, maces suck. HELP :)

also, just hit GM tailor!

[CharlieMopps]

Yes, I've been playing on this server a lot lately. I'm trying to GM taming atm so I can make some money and get a house. The full PVP is nice... finding people off, by themselves macroing is great fun. Lure a lich over if you dont want the murder count etc... What's funny is the macroers dont seem to realize the easiest way to train something is to lock all your other skills and then go kill lots of skeletons. the scroll drops are faster than a macro any day.

[Slayerik]

Yeah, was just going to give you that hint if you were taming the hard way :)

[LC]

Skill gain is pretty shitty, and a lot of people have quit. I think Az is finally realizing that I was right. Of course he will never come here and admit it.

What's even funnier is that he posted reds were responsible for the first IPY shutting down. I guess he he thinks everyone else forgot the real reasons like GM corruption, misappropriated donations, and his giant hissy fit that resulted in the server being taken down.

[Slayerik]

Still playin?

[LC]

Still playin?

Log in to start macro. Is that considered playing?

[Reg]

I don't remember the big roughy tough PKs being so whiny back in the old days.

[LC]

I don't remember the big roughy tough PKs being so whiny back in the old days.

Who's being whiny? Do you even know what the penalties for being red are on IPY?

[Reg]

You're being whiny. You do absolutely nothing but whine and moan and bitch about a free game that someone put up purely as a hobby. Just stop playing it for god's sake.

[Nija]

Red or not red the game isn't remotely fun. For the reasons mentioned over a month ago. Which Az is in the process of changing, finally.

Whine or not, LC is correct and has been correct.

Shit is stupid - too little too late anyhow. That is probably the last time I'll have a UO client installed on any machine.

[LC]

Lets say you were invited to a pool party. The invitation promised free drinks, steaks, and ribs would be served. When you arrive you have to wait in line for 2 hours just to get inside. After you finally get inside, the pool is dry, they only have hot dogs, and the only drink being served is water from a garden hose. Would you just leave without a word to the host?

[Slayerik]

I'm having fun PKing on my 80's mage.

I know where you guys are coming from , I don't have much playtime so I don't mind slow skill gain. I macro a LOT. It works for me.

Nija, the invite is still open. Just come be red with us if you are going to quit anyway. Plenty of action.

[Dark_MadMax]

I know where you guys are coming from , I don't have much playtime so I don't mind slow skill gain. I macro a LOT. It works for me.

Gah and people dont realize why this is a problem lol. In Darkfall they thought macroing for a year was ok too .

[Slayerik]

Well, I would rather slow gain and some macroing than have 7x characters everywhere. Now, when you die you can't just bring in your other 7x.

My changes to server would be 100% gain in houses. I miss houses being hangouts and macroing spots. I haven't once truly hung out, cause we're better off at the fuckin' bank of all places.

400% gain in dungeons. 150% out of town limits. 200% at deep sea. 3x current skill scroll drop rate. Skill scrolls max out at the below points per skill, per day.

2.0 points at 60
1.0 points at 70
.8 points at 80
.4 points at 90



Adjust max gains per day to

5.0 points at 60
3.0 points at 70
1.5 points at 80
0.8 points at 90-99
0.4 from 99.0 - 100



500g per short term.

Two OCB nights per week (one weekend, one mid week evening)

Basically, reward the fuck out of people in dungeons and playing your game. Give bonus for those that want to risk macroing in a boat at deep sea. This gives pirates a target as well.

Make doubloons sellable to a vendor for a lot of gold. Create interest there. If it is high enough, people might actually fight for control of this. Make it capturable at certain times:

01:00 ---- 9:00 ---- 14:00 ----19:00

Whatever guild controls it at that time is given x doubloons to the GM's bank, they can use it to buy boats, items, or sell for cash. Simply have a stone that you click that makes it say "X GUILD currently controls" - whatever guild clicked last gets the loot. This should make for some action. Make the stone somewhere that boats can cannon people trying to click it. This makes boats and cannon valuable.

Just spitballing here, but I think some of these things could drastically improve server activity. The downside........faster GM characters, but not THAT fast.

[Slyfeind]

I don't remember the big roughy tough PKs being so whiny back in the old days.

Heh. Actually they were. Can I be a counselor on IPY? This is sounding more and more like classic UO!  

hahahahalolololol. But seriously folks. :) I would understand slow skill gain, if there was something to do at the lower levels. Slayerik has found some action at skill level 80, so there's that. But also I'm reminded on how, back in the day, I insisted there must be a way to encourage players to stay at lower levels. Everybody I told this to insisted it was impossible. Players are always going to want to progress, no matter what you do. Then DAOC introduced its battlegrounds that you couldn't play in after level 20. Players begged for a way to stop advancing. They didn't want XP anymore. WoW has done this too. Players don't want to max out their players anymore.

Oh, and that pool analogy. Yeah I'd bitch and complain, but then I'd leave. LC, it sounds like you're bitching and complaining, then staying around for months and months, sitting in the dry pool while you keep drinking the rusty hose water. Just sayin'.

[LC]

Nija, the invite is still open. Just come be red with us if you are going to quit anyway. Plenty of action.

Nija made a bard. He quit before making a pvp char.

[LC]

Oh, and that pool analogy. Yeah I'd bitch and complain, but then I'd leave. LC, it sounds like you're bitching and complaining, then staying around for months and months, sitting in the dry pool while you keep drinking the rusty hose water. Just sayin'.

Waiting for a refund.

Seriously though, it hasn't bothered me as much as it has people like Nija. I just complain because most of the people I play with can't enjoy the game in it's current state. I play solo now because everyone I started with quit. Every night there seems to be less and less activity. There was one dude in shame last night when I went.

[Soulflame]

I don't remember the big roughy tough PKs being so whiny back in the old days.

That's kind of funny, because LC is pretty representative of pks, at least in my opinion.  Wants to run around ruining the fun of everyone else without consequence or effort on his part.

[LC]

I don't remember the big roughy tough PKs being so whiny back in the old days.

That's kind of funny, because LC is pretty representative of pks, at least in my opinion.  Wants to run around ruining the fun of everyone else without consequence or effort on his part.

I guess you'd be surprised to hear that all my characters are blue, and I have both a detective and a paladin. I only had one red character in my uo history. For the most part I was anti. I also had a thief character that I really enjoyed.

The problem is that without reds on the server its boring as hell. My detective and paladin are worthless without active reds. The dungeons feel entirely too safe on ipy.

[Slayerik]

Been doing my part making them more dangerous ;) Was busy this Easter weekend, but I'm nearing 0 short terms on my PK! Must kill shit!

[WindupAtheist]

So is anybody still doing this or did it go how it always goes? Anyway I looked over at Azaroth's last blog entry and read this:

I genuinely felt people would have more patience and pride in the last major hurrah for one of the greatest games of all time. When UO was launched, grandmasters were nearly unheard of bla bla bla etcetera

Please tell me that he's just using REALLY REALLY clumsy English to say that hitting GM in a skill is the last hurrah. He couldn't POSSIBLY have meant to say that "UO PVP freeshard #58372 with some original ideas nobody will like" is the "last major hurrah" for Ultima Online, could he? Because I'm pretty sure there will be people banksitting on a UO freeshard the day they unplug the last commercial WoW server.

[Slayerik]

It is for me. And a lot of other people I have talked to. It may sound a bit pompous, but I think it's not far off. No other freeshard launch will have the numbers IPY had. Those have dropped, and we'll see how he does at keeping interest / apeasing the masses that are left.

[LC]

So is anybody still doing this or did it go how it always goes? Anyway I looked over at Azaroth's last blog entry and read this:

I genuinely felt people would have more patience and pride in the last major hurrah for one of the greatest games of all time. When UO was launched, grandmasters were nearly unheard of bla bla bla etcetera

Please tell me that he's just using REALLY REALLY clumsy English to say that hitting GM in a skill is the last hurrah. He couldn't POSSIBLY have meant to say that "UO PVP freeshard #58372 with some original ideas nobody will like" is the "last major hurrah" for Ultima Online, could he? Because I'm pretty sure there will be people banksitting on a UO freeshard the day they unplug the last commercial WoW server.

I've been logging in to refresh my houses. Thats about it. Everyone else I know quit because of the ridiculous skill grind. After the server population dropped by 25%-30% he finally gave in and agreed to reduce the grind. But not before he introduces some bullshit changes that don't belong on a classic uo server. I'm talking about battlegrounds and raid dungeons.

Perhaps In Por Ylem is best described as a "Classic" version of Ultima Online, stepping back to before a time when the game was changed, in the opinion of many for the worse.

This is what brought people to the server. Nobody came to play UOWoW.

Of course Az's standard response to any criticism is this:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3378168&pagenumber=27#post391395870

Saw another entry into the IPY banner contest: