Classic Ultima Online: IPY2 Launch date: Feb 11th

[LC]

I heard AZ came after trammel. New lamest feature for IPY: blessed house keys

[Soulflame]

That sounds like a good feature to me.  I'm not a fan of MMO stealing in the first place.  In all likelihood, if I lost a house due to someone snagging a key from me, that'd probably be it in terms of my playing IPY2.

[Slayerik]

I heard AZ came after trammel. New lamest feature for IPY: blessed house keys

Even if someone got your house key, it wouldn't really matter. You can't steal locked down/secured shit.

Honestly, why do you play if you hate it so much?

[koro]

That sounds like a good feature to me.  I'm not a fan of MMO stealing in the first place.  In all likelihood, if I lost a house due to someone snagging a key from me, that'd probably be it in terms of my playing IPY2.

Same here, pretty much. The "standard" house-protection measure involves placing tables around the entrance so nobody (even you) can get in without unlocking, moving, replacing, and re-locking them down, which is oh so fun a ritual to do, especially if you have to sit there and detect for hidden people every time you open your door.

At any rate, according to Az, most house thieving he saw was done via exploits and bugs, so it's unlikely we'll ever see it in.

[Chinchilla]

I heard AZ came after trammel. New lamest feature for IPY: blessed house keys

I don't mind that feature too much to be honest.  Geez why do ppl always want the griefing options available.  I understand some griefing, but not so they can get every single thing to the point where you need a multi-box secure setup just to get inside your house.

[koro]

I just want to know where I can go to get money (and maybe some skills) as a dexer outside of Shame. I got a few blessed days in the place before it got too popular and now it's pretty much perma-camped at any time of day or night and absolutely stuffed with annoying inept notos. Even Wrong with its decent-but-not-that-great gold (if you're not farming the ogre lords as a bard) is pretty populated and frequented by PKs looking to slaughter bards and newbs killing orcs and trolls.

Despise is a shithole full of slimes and rats and snakes and other absolutely trivial bullshit, with few to no decent spawns anywhere (the old ogre lord spawn on the bottom-most level seems to be gone entirely). Covetous is also full of slimes, and level one is pretty much always packed. Destard is pretty much un-doable if you're not a bard or mage. Hythloth's loot is garbage for the amount of annoyance in the place, Deceit's probably not even doable without a group to deal with people like the Goons, and I can't even set foot into Wind due to my lack of magery.

[Sky]

It sure is awesome having LC post here.

[Rasix]

The griefer perspective is always amusing.

[LC]

The griefer perspective is always amusing.

Maybe I should change my online handle, quit hanging out with my derelict friends, and pretend to be someone else.  The respect of whiny douchebags from the internet is all that really matters in the end.

[Rasix]

The griefer perspective is always amusing.

Maybe I should change my online handle, quit hanging out with my derelict friends, and pretend to be someone else.  The respect of whiny douchebags from the internet is all that really matters in the end.

Our checkered past doesn't change the sentiment.   I miss you too, buttercup.

[Reg]

Is LC some famous griefer from the old UO days that I've forgotten about it?

[shiznitz]

Nope, just a guy with a Little Cock....

edit: I don't know the guy but the cheap shot was too easy not to take.

[Rasix]

Is LC some famous griefer from the old UO days that I've forgotten about it?

Shadowbane.  I don't remember LC from UO.

[LC]

Our checkered past doesn't change the sentiment.   I miss you too, buttercup.

But you are too cool for irc these days.

[Amaron]

Well that's because there are almost no reds so far. Murder counts decay very quickly since most people are still macroing overnight (1100 players at 3 AM EST certainly are not out and about in dungeons), so a lot of people are just being blue PKs.

Curious if this has changed much?   I quit on like the 3rd or 4th day when I saw this was going to happen and everyone thought I was crazy.    I liked IPY2 even though there were several things I didn't agree with.   I mean everyone has their own pet peeves but if we all had our own perfect server we'd all be playing alone.    A non functional red/blue PvP system on an old school UO server though is like  .

Which of course brings up the real problem with RoT.   Even if Az fixes it now I obviously won't come back and spend a whole month being behind people who are nearing GM.

[koro]

Well that's because there are almost no reds so far. Murder counts decay very quickly since most people are still macroing overnight (1100 players at 3 AM EST certainly are not out and about in dungeons), so a lot of people are just being blue PKs.

Curious if this has changed much?   I quit on like the 3rd or 4th day when I saw this was going to happen and everyone thought I was crazy.    I liked IPY2 even though there were several things I didn't agree with.   I mean everyone has their own pet peeves but if we all had our own perfect server we'd all be playing alone.    A non functional red/blue PvP system on an old school UO server though is like  .

Which of course brings up the real problem with RoT.   Even if Az fixes it now I obviously won't come back and spend a whole month being behind people who are nearing GM.

Blue PKs are a bit less of an issue now with short term counts at 8 hours and longs at 40, and the red situation's actually changed quite a bit very rapidly. More than a few of the people I saw macroing Magery at East Brit Bank only a couple days ago (who would be there day in and day out for literally weeks on end) are now red and pretty much running from lowbie dungeon to lowbie dungeon stomping anyone who can't stand up to them; considering most of them are running with probably 91 magery at the least, this will be most people.

For people like me who aren't really good at UO PvP (which is starting to make me question why I play the shard, since even if I'm not really there for PvP, the vast majority of people probably are), it's kind of irritating, since I basically have nothing to do now except macro skills of my own.

[LC]

A lot of the casual players are starting to complain as they hit the upper 70s and 80s. Az's fair play (or rested casual bonus) actually hurts casual players more than anyone else. Sure the daily gains are capped, but to reach those caps you have to play/macro for 8+ hours at a time. Over an hour of play just to gain .1 in a skill.  Casuals just can't put in that kind of time. Az's response has been to delete or lock all threads about the issue.

Here is how Az handles most criticism and complaints: http://i.imgur.com/Oj6q0.jpg

Still no reds on the server.

[Sheepherder]

There is a certain irony in you bitching about the way Az decides to run his server.

[WindupAtheist]

I don't know why you'd make a UO freeshard and have it take more than a couple weeks of casual play to hit GM. It's not like players are outleveling meticulously-crafted quests or instance content. You want it to be better to suck up your murder penalties than to delete and make a new character, but that's about it.

[LC]

I don't know why you'd make a UO freeshard and have it take more than a couple weeks of casual play to hit GM. It's not like players are outleveling meticulously-crafted quests or instance content. You want it to be better to suck up your murder penalties than to delete and make a new character, but that's about it.

On Az's server you are capped at:
60-70: 5 points per day
70-80: 2 points per day
80-90: 1 point per day
90-100: 0.5 points per day

Thats 37 days to reach GM in a skill if you can manage to reach the cap each day. By the 80s you can't do it through normal play anymore. Sometimes it's hours between gains.

I totally agree with you though.

[LC]

There is a certain irony in you bitching about the way Az decides to run his server.

It would only be ironic if I was somehow involved with running UO emu servers. I'm not. Are you looking to score some points with Az?

[Sheepherder]

It would only be ironic if I was somehow involved with running UO emu servers. I'm not. Are you looking to score some points with Az?

Or if you were a rabid member of an Eve corp that got caught in a massive developer scandal.

Note the past tense, which renders it only slightly ironic.

[LC]

It would only be ironic if I was somehow involved with running UO emu servers. I'm not. Are you looking to score some points with Az?

Or if you were a rabid member of an Eve corp that got caught in a massive developer scandal.

Note the past tense, which renders it only slightly ironic.

I joined RKK/BoB because my previous corporation merged into them. We left BoB and reformed a few months later because we didn't like being in BoB. This all happened long after the developer scandal. In no way did I benefit from it. In fact I was poorer when I left BoB than I was when I joined. I had to devote an hour or more of my play time every night to refueling POSes. Otherwise they would kick me out or charge me like 1 bil isk per week for membership. After that I had to spend 3 hours losing ships in laggy fleet fights.

I hate BoB. Fuck em. I read the shit they said about us when goons leaked their private forums.

[Slayerik]

I'm still having fun when I can play. I macro my ass off though to try to burn through any of my rested magery status. Tough gains, but I don't mind. Up to like 81 now.

Also, last time I paid attention there was 2100 clients logged on. That's pretty solid, even with probably being 1100-1200 uniques.

[LC]

I'm still having fun when I can play. I macro my ass off though to try to burn through any of my rested magery status. Tough gains, but I don't mind. Up to like 81 now.

Also, last time I paid attention there was 2100 clients logged on. That's pretty solid, even with probably being 1100-1200 uniques.

I'm still hanging in there. A lot of people that I know are frustrated and angry because of the skill gain. Some of them have stopped playing.

[Nija]

I'm still having fun when I can play. I macro my ass off though to try to burn through any of my rested magery status. Tough gains, but I don't mind. Up to like 81 now.

Also, last time I paid attention there was 2100 clients logged on. That's pretty solid, even with probably being 1100-1200 uniques.

I don't macro anymore. The skill gain is so fucking slow that, to me, it's not worth the energy costs of keeping on a PC overnight running the macro. More or less I've quit.

I've played about 2 hours in the past week.

[shiznitz]

Why not just go out and play with combat skills in the 80s?  I had plenty of fun in old UO without GM skills.  2100 people means there is plenty of room to play, I would think. 

[Slayerik]

I gained .6 magery at 79 real last night, after an hour in shame. I also made about 3k gold (PKed a guy that killed me macroing once....ahhh sweet revenge)

Earlier, my macroing for 3 hours of flamestrikes was +.3

Get out and play. I have twin 8 month old babies and I still pull it off.

[Nija]

Get out and play. I have twin 8 month old babies and I still pull it off.

I have a 5 year old, a 5 month old, a wife, and I work 70 hours a week Mon-Fri.

I have problems with finding the time to enable a hide macro, much less actually playing.

[shiznitz]

Your post implied you weren't playing more due to unhappiness with skill gain.  Sounds like life is the issue.

[Malakili]

Your post implied you weren't playing more due to unhappiness with skill gain.  Sounds like life is the issue.

Not mutually exclusive.

[LC]

I gained .6 magery at 79 real last night, after an hour in shame. I also made about 3k gold (PKed a guy that killed me macroing once....ahhh sweet revenge)

Earlier, my macroing for 3 hours of flamestrikes was +.3

Get out and play. I have twin 8 month old babies and I still pull it off.

So you haven't really hit the wall yet.

[Slayerik]

Yeah, but as long as I don't fizzle Exp/ corps then fuck it, let's PVP.

[LC]

I don't think REDs will ever thrive on this server. Some red killed my newbie dexxer at the entrance of shame. I exited to res just outside the entrance. When I got back in he was being swarmed by a dozen or more paladins. The murderer radar is a bit too much.

[Slayerik]

Yeah, I think my murdering will mainly be done on throwaway macers and shit. I can't mage scrap like I used to, and damn twins make me go afk all the damn time.