Ghosts from Gettysburg - Evidence Inside

[Arthur_Parker]

Yeah I think it's a city, Armagh people are very proud of it being a city, two cathedrals too, as anyone will tell you within 30 seconds of meeting you.  Think that's why it annoys her.

Edit maybe I'm not being clear, it really is a city http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armagh  (I add apparently because there were always arguments about that when I was growing up)

[Nerf]

My house was built on an Indian burial ground.


"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." - Carl Sagan

Holy shit.
I had no idea that drywall was made of ghosts, this explains the Lowes settlement..sneaky bastards.

[Ingmar]

Yeah I think it's a city, Armagh people are very proud of it being a city, two cathedrals too, as anyone will tell you within 30 seconds of meeting you.  Think that's why it annoys her.

Edit maybe I'm not being clear, it really is a city http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armagh  (I add apparently because there were always arguments about that when I was growing up)

<15,000 means it would only get the "town" icon on old D&D maps. 

[ghost]

Yeah I think it's a city, Armagh people are very proud of it being a city, two cathedrals too, as anyone will tell you within 30 seconds of meeting you.  Think that's why it annoys her.

Edit maybe I'm not being clear, it really is a city http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armagh  (I add apparently because there were always arguments about that when I was growing up)

Isn't Armagh close enough to Belfast to be reasonably "citified"?

[Arthur_Parker]

Isn't Armagh close enough to Belfast to be reasonably "citified"?

Ignore me, US & British English meanings for city are apparently different, over here it generally means a really big settlement, funny fail, my bad.  I'm not touching "citified", Belfast is about 35 miles away.

Replying to "Ghost" in the ghost thread.

[Sky]

Ghost are so spooky. I do not respond well to spooky behavior!

[Sjofn]

City folk can be highly amusing at night in the country.  Taking them to a cemetery would be hilarious.

I have to be careful about the term 'city folk'. My fiancee, despite growing up in the city and thinking hiking is done on a paved path, and has utter disdain for even the thought of the word 'outhouse'....she gets real upset when I call her a city girl.

If you haven't even wiped with leaves, if you haven't bathed in a stream, if you can't properly use a blanket at night when sleeping under the stars, if you have not dealt the killing blow on the creature you eat for dinner, gutted and cooked it, you're probably a city folk. And that's ok. But expect a little rib-poking, especially with the shit country folk have to take from dipshit city folk who would die in two days in the woods.

Perhaps you can explain this to Ingmar for me, as he keeps insisting I had a rural upbringing while I consider it much more suburby. I grew up in New Jersey, for God's sake, we have like three feet of "rural" left there.

[Engels]

I'd argue that if you were raised on the Jersey Shore, that counts as a rural upbringing ;)

[Sjofn]

I lived about a half hour away from Seaside Heights (if I remember right, I hardly ever went there because it was tourists-from-New-York ridden, JUST LIKE THE FUCKING SHOW). I did live right on the edge of the Pine Barrens but to hear Ingmar talk I lived in the WILD.

[ghost]

Rural is a state of mind.  Or Kansas. 

[Lantyssa]

Perhaps you can explain this to Ingmar for me, as he keeps insisting I had a rural upbringing while I consider it much more suburby. I grew up in New Jersey, for God's sake, we have like three feet of "rural" left there.

I can't say you or your sister strike me as rural.  Maybe compared to him, but certainly not what I'd consider as such.

Though somewhat tongue-in-cheek, Sky's list wasn't that far off if most of that seems the normal way of things.

[Sjofn]

The main thing is in my part of NJ, there is a lot of "turn several times in seemingly random directions in a heavily wooded area, then magically appear at your destination" that weirds Ingmar right the hell out. There are also a lot of horse farms. 

[NiX]

Do you really need to kill an animal to not be considered 'city folk'? Seems a bit extreme to me.

Are you a vegan?

I'm not a Vegan, grew up on a farm in the middle of no where and never once had to kill an animal.

One day you'll not be crazy, probably when you forget who you are.

[Sky]

You grew up on a farm and didn't need to kill any animals? That's a new one for me.

And what's crazy about killing animals? Unless you're a vegan, you eat dead animals. You should know what that means. Also, a lot of my family was abjectly poor, so they raised animals to eat and lots of hunters, and we all fished. My grandpa was so proud when I chopped the head off my first turkey for thanksgiving, because it was skills he had taught me splitting wood when I was younger, I was probably 6 or 7 when I did the turkey.

Didn't (and still don't) care for gutting, but after that it's a cut of meat imo, not an animal. Worst part of prepping a turkey is de-feathering, ye gods I hated that.

Anyway. Ghosts. They're spooky.

[WindupAtheist]

Anyway. Ghosts. They're spooky.

And they always manage to look like whatever sort of technical snafu is most common to cameras of their era. Clever, those ghosts.

[Sheepherder]

Or double exposures.

[Teleku]

Yeah Sky, your definition of rural seems to be "crazy broke ass redneck" lifestyle, not rural.  I grew up in a very small town in the country.  I never needed to wipe my ass with leaves.  Thats just bad planning on your part.  Think ahead!  Plan! 

And bathe in a stream?  I swam in local creeks alllllll summer long, but we usually took showers to wash the creek gunk off afterwards when we got home.   

[WindupAtheist]

Or double exposures.

Yes, but less so after cameras all started being manufactured with double exposure protection. Like I said, clever!

[NiX]

Yeah Sky, your definition of rural seems to be "crazy broke ass redneck" lifestyle, not rural.  I grew up in a very small town in the country.  I never needed to wipe my ass with leaves.  Thats just bad planning on your part.  Think ahead!  Plan! 

And bathe in a stream?  I swam in local creeks alllllll summer long, but we usually took showers to wash the creek gunk off afterwards when we got home.   

Yes, this is the point I was trying to make. Rural does not mean you're homeless.

[Tarami]

Why would you use leaves even if you had no paper? Moss, snow or a stream or lake to wash yourself in. It's not like doing number 2 becomes so critical very often that you have to use whatever is available on the spot you're standing. If it is, chances are you won't be needing much wiping.

Rural to me is more things like owning a wood stove that isn't just decorative. Having to drive a mile or more to reach paved roads. Living in a house that at some point was part of a farm. Keeping free-roaming animals like chickens as pets. Owning more than one pair of wellingtons and zero pairs of pumps. Knowing the full name of all your closest neighbours, including their children and grandchildren. Getting a moped on your fifteenth birthday to help you get around.

Well, atleast in Sweden.

[Teleku]

Yeah, rural America does not do mopeds, trust me.   

At least where I grew up, everybody gets car/pickup when they turn 15 to help them get around.

[Tarami]

Yeah, it's 18 to get a driver's license in Sweden. Thus mopeds (which are license-less at age 15.)

Edit:
Oh, one more thing: Owning a freezer that's larger than a two-seat sofa.

[ghost]

A buddy of mine from Utah used to pool money with his brothers so they could buy cheap junky cars that would still run.  They would then cut the roof off of the car and then jump it into a huge pond on their property. That's rural. 

[Tarami]

No, that's redneck.

Added: 

[Paelos]

Just the good ol' boys. Never meanin' no harm...

[ghost]

Of course he's now a radiologist pulling in about $400k, so I guess that worked out pretty well for him, lol. 

[Lantyssa]

Rural only cares about driver's license if going into town.  I was driving by age 10.

[Paelos]

Rural only cares about driver's license if going into town.  I was driving by age 10.

This was my experience in rural Texas as well. Driving as soon as you reach the pedals and see over the wheel.

[CmdrSlack]

Yeah, rural America does not do mopeds, trust me.   

At least where I grew up, everybody gets car/pickup when they turn 15 to help them get around.

Perhaps there's something lost in translation? Maybe moped = gas-powered dirt bike?

[NowhereMan]

The American definition of rural is going to be different simply because requiring being a hundred miles from the nearest city is pretty difficult in Europe. I always though of rural as being someone who doesn't get freaked out when they see animals that aren't on leads and suffers from a total lack of public transportation. Also having to drive to the nearest pub.

[ghost]

[Muffled]

What the fuck is that?  What is it from?   

[Teleku]

I'm going to assume Vegans.

[Furiously]

I'm going to assume Vegans.

Or Vegas.

[DraconianOne]

The American definition of rural is going to be different simply because requiring being a hundred miles from the nearest city is pretty difficult in Europe. I always though of rural as being someone who doesn't get freaked out when they see animals that aren't on leads and suffers from a total lack of public transportation. Also having to drive to the nearest pub.

This. Except we lived in the nearest pub. 

This is where I grew up:


I always thought of it as pretty rural. We lived near two villages (combined population ~800 today!) in a row of four houses and across the road from a dairy farm. I've never killed an animal that I've eaten. Nor have I ever seen a ghost, despite there being stories about hauntings on the site of the nearby Norman motte and bailey setttlement (in the picture), the neighbouring town and the various castles in the area (which date back to the 10th century).