Ghosts from Gettysburg - Evidence Inside

[ghost]

What the fuck is that?  What is it from?   

This is how people out in the "sticks" get their milk.  It's all about redneckiness. 




Back on topic a little bit.  I'm not sure why the idea of ghosts has to be religiously based.  There is obviously something special about humans aside from the nuts and bolts that put us together.  The concept of mind and self is unexplainable by looking at our genome or other pieces and parts.  I guess it's possible for that portion to figure out a way to exist without the body somehow.  My personal thought is that when we die we turn into dirt and that part just turns off like a light switch, but I've also seen some weird shit that isn't always explainable.  

[WayAbvPar]

The concept of a soul and what happens to it after death is pretty much tied directly into religion. Hell, it is pretty much the reason for religion in the first place. Ghosts are a natural offshoot of that.

[ghost]

I understand that.  What I'm saying is that you just can't dismiss the potential existence of ghosts as purely religious claptrap.  The discussion doesn't have to start and end with religion.  I'm an atheist.  I doubt ghosts truly exist, but I'm not willing to just rule it out based on my bias against religion. 

[Sky]

Sounds like some city folks who weren't smart enough to live in the city, if you ask me.

[Typhon]

The concept of a soul and what happens to it after death is pretty much tied directly into religion. Hell, it is pretty much the reason for religion in the first place. Ghosts are a natural offshoot of that.

I'd say that you have it backwards.  In the absence of directed supernatural phenomenon (a Deity or Deities), religion seems like it's a consequence of people trying to explain unexplained "stuff".  

A lot of that stuff can be completely natural, but is just beyond the knowledge of the folks in question (what is lightening, why are their seasons, why does the sun rise and set, etc).

That, to ghost's point (above), still leaves room for undirected supernatural phenomenon (the whole trunk load of "weird stuff", including ghosts) without requiring that there actually are Gods, etc.  I'm not saying that I believe/don't believe, I'm just pointing out that your statement is not logically rigorous as it ignores a possibility.

That said, I believe in ghost because I see him posting!  It's uncanny!

Edit: fixed location of ghost's post and "noot" = "not"

[bhodi]

That said, I believe in ghost because I see him posting!  It's uncanny!

It's hard to dispute hard evidence like that.

There is plenty of weird, unexplained phenomenon in the world. What we understand is only a small sliver of what's out there. Trying to declare something elusive and unknown as supernatual presences of people who have died? That doesn't make much sense to me.

[Sweeper]

just... just watch this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI

[Sir T]

I think that story and those pics are marvelous. Thanks for sharing, and I'm glad you had a good time.

As for the rest, I'll quote Babylon 5...

    [As Catherine is talking, G'Kar carefully picks up the ant.]

    G'Kar: I have just picked it up on the tip of my glove. If I put it down again and it asks another ant, "What was that?", how would it explain? There are things in the universe billions of years older than either of our races. They are vast, timeless. And if they are aware of us at all, it is as little more than ants…and we have as much chance of communicating with them as an ant has with us. We know. We've tried. And we've learned we can either stay out from underfoot, or be stepped on.

    Catherine: That's it? That's all you know?

    G'Kar: Yes. They are a mystery. And I am both terrified and reassured to know that there are still wonders in the universe…that we have not yet explained everything. Whatever they are, Ms. Sakai, they walk near Sigma 957. They must walk there alone.

[Sheepherder]

Sounds like some city folks who weren't smart enough to live in the city, if you ask me.

If you ask me, it sounds like meth is a helluva drug.

[WindupAtheist]

Twenty years from now when cameras use a process that can result in odd little triangular glitches under the right circumstances, it'll turn out that ghosts were triangular all along. Not full apparitions like they were when cameras didn't have double exposure protection, or orbs like they are with digital cameras now. People who want to believe in ghosts will see absolutely no problem with this.

[Typhon]

I believe in our other-worldly triangu-spectres!  Why are you so close minded?!

[Sir T]

All hail the Great Race of Yith.

[Riggswolfe]

That sounded like fun Draegan. I am a person who has gradually become an atheist over the years but I do still believe ghosts, at least, exist. I don't know what they are but they are something. Souls? Leftover energy? Psychosis? I don't know. But I've known too many people, including relatives and myself, that have had "encounters". That said, I don't think they can be photographed. I think Ghost Hunters (and similiar shows) are B.S. that use tricks to play up things for ratings.

[Slyfeind]

just... just watch this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI

I love that guy. He makes the obvious more obvious for those who cannot understand the obvious.

Also it's fun to believe in ghosts. (But that's all I'll say about the topic at hand.)

[Slayerik]

Didn't (and still don't) care for gutting, but after that it's a cut of meat imo, not an animal. Worst part of prepping a turkey is de-feathering, ye gods I hated that.

Dude, I have the answer. (EDIT: Though turkey might be too big)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC051HphyvY

Now that's a smart redneck.

[Lantyssa]

Turkey would only be a problem if it's a domestic one.  A wild turkey would fit in there fine.