Vegas baby! Vegas

[Shrike]

Weapon repair makes a lot of sense to me. Many of these weapons are going to be 200 years old, and those that aren't are going to have been manufactured without high-precision, mass manufacturing facilities.  Things are gonna break!

Hell, things break as it is nowadays. Look at the recent Bushmaster recall of ACR rifles. Or anything Bushmaster. I had a friend that had an M7 and the PoS couldn't finish a magazine without multiple malfunctions. Or the milsurp Hakim rifle that constantly broke parts. Or most low end 1911 copies. Some stuff is just junk to begin with and has to be dealt with.

As for gameplay, well, it is a little overdone, but not so bad as System Shock 2. I haven't felt it held me back much, and it gives you the opportunity to play around with weapons you might not otherwise have used (hello, Cowboy Rifle...damn that thing turned out to be fun--and hellishly effective).

[Koyasha]

It's not just the silliness of weapons degrading every hundred or so shots, but also the manner in which they do it.  They start doing less damage for some reason?  A better system to reflect the possibility of weapons breaking would be easy to come up with.  For example, whenever a weapon is generated, have a hidden stat that says how many times it can be fired before it breaks.  (I initially considered a percentage chance on each shot of breaking, but this would promote save before a fight, reload if weapon breaks tactics - having it determined when the weapon is obtained makes that impossible.)  This stat can have various modifiers depending on the specific weapon too.  For instance, a weapon purchased from the Gun Runners might be hiqh quality enough to fire off a thousand or more rounds before it breaks, while a weapon randomly found in a crate in the wastes might break pretty easily.

It could even be expanded on with multiple states of breakage, such as being unable to fire at all, having a chance each shot of exploding in your hand, and various other potential mishaps.  But it would be vastly less nonsensical than the weapon slowly doing less damage with each hit.

But hey, it's not a big deal and it can easily be modded so it doesn't really bother me.  Just the kind of thing I like to pick on.

[rk47]

Third run and realized the Ultra Luxe quest has a ton of options to expose the plot. Amazing really.

[rattran]

With the right perk, Ultra-luxe is simplicity itself, they love me there! Sadly, the cannibal perks don't seem to reduce food need in hardcore. Each playthrough I've done I've gotten sick of the constant food and water crap before level 14. Doesn't seem immersive, just an added annoyance.

[apocrypha]

It's not just the silliness of weapons degrading every hundred or so shots, but also the manner in which they do it.  They start doing less damage for some reason?  A better system to reflect the possibility of weapons breaking would be easy to come up with.  For example, whenever a weapon is generated, have a hidden stat that says how many times it can be fired before it breaks.  (I initially considered a percentage chance on each shot of breaking, but this would promote save before a fight, reload if weapon breaks tactics - having it determined when the weapon is obtained makes that impossible.)  This stat can have various modifiers depending on the specific weapon too.  For instance, a weapon purchased from the Gun Runners might be hiqh quality enough to fire off a thousand or more rounds before it breaks, while a weapon randomly found in a crate in the wastes might break pretty easily.

It could even be expanded on with multiple states of breakage, such as being unable to fire at all, having a chance each shot of exploding in your hand, and various other potential mishaps.  But it would be vastly less nonsensical than the weapon slowly doing less damage with each hit.

But hey, it's not a big deal and it can easily be modded so it doesn't really bother me.  Just the kind of thing I like to pick on.

Nice idea but would also just promote "save before every fight" and if your gun breaks reload and use a different weapon.

[Tebonas]

I like weapon degradation as it is right now. Your alternative would just be frustrating. Maybe this is less realistic, but also less annoying. Hidden mechanics tend to be a real PITA.

[rk47]

With the right perk, Ultra-luxe is simplicity itself, they love me there! Sadly, the cannibal perks don't seem to reduce food need in hardcore. Each playthrough I've done I've gotten sick of the constant food and water crap before level 14. Doesn't seem immersive, just an added annoyance.

It does solve hunger issue for me. I always eat people I killed with that perk and never got hungry in the wastelands. Hunger is no biggy till advanced stage anyway.

[Sheepherder]

It's not just the silliness of weapons degrading every hundred or so shots, but also the manner in which they do it.  They start doing less damage for some reason?

This isn't actually that unrealistic.  Any factor that decreases the acceleration of the bullet via direct impedance or lost propellant gas will result in a velocity drop, which may mean fouling, abrasion compromising the seal of the action, a firing pin that doesn't strike squarely or with barely sufficient force, a dysfunctional locking mechanism, and probably a bunch of other little shit that I barely could comprehend.

And lost velocity is lost kinetic energy.

[Shrike]

It's not just the silliness of weapons degrading every hundred or so shots, but also the manner in which they do it.  They start doing less damage for some reason?

This isn't actually that unrealistic.  Any factor that decreases the acceleration of the bullet via direct impedance or lost propellant gas will result in a velocity drop, which may mean fouling, abrasion compromising the seal of the action, a firing pin that doesn't strike squarely or with barely sufficient force, a dysfunctional locking mechanism, and probably a bunch of other little shit that I barely could comprehend.

And lost velocity is lost kinetic energy.

The most serious issues would be reliability and accuracy. Serious throat erosion or heavy pitting in the barrel can seriously effect accuracy. Bullets tumbling is bad juju. On the other hand, I've seen very badly damaged bores still give serviceable accuracy. I have a 1941 Johnson with a real sewer pipe barrel (only has a few scraps of rifling left), but it'll still hold minute of antifreeze jug at 100yds--and it doesn't keyhole, which is kind of amazing when you think about it.

Regardless, the weapon degradation is sort of contrived, but I don't find it an issue and it adds interest to the game. I find the same thing about hardcore mode. It makes you think about what you're doing and plan a bit more. Yeah, it adds time spent to everything you do, but that's part of Fallout. I've had some pretty amusing stories from friends who pushed too hard and wound up running around desperate for water until they found an incredibly irradiated toilet to drink out of--and damned glad they had that!

[Lantyssa]

I don't have a problem with degredation, only the rate at which they do so.

[CmdrSlack]

I don't mind the decay on weapons at all. It helps consolidate loot weight when I haven't bothered to hit a vendor to sell for a while.

What does bother me is that I only really get time to play on the weekend.

In the meantime, I'm forced to just read about the game and turn up stuff like this: http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-ways-fallout-new-vegas-made-me-worse-person/

[Miasma]

In the meantime, I'm forced to just read about the game and turn up stuff like this: http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-ways-fallout-new-vegas-made-me-worse-person/

The fool!

I also have no idea how he got into the situation from number 2.

[Ingmar]

Not to mention you can actually just pick up some glasses in the doctor's house when you wake up.

[CmdrSlack]

Also, any glasses work. My character has the four eyes trait and wears sunglasses. Works just fine.

[Rendakor]

Do glasses prevent you from wearing a helmet? I didn't take that trait because I didn't think +1 Per was worth not being able to use any helmet.

[FatuousTwat]

Some helmets you can use, some you cant. IIRC the motorcycle helmet and the metal helmet = no, combat helmet = yes.

[Slyfeind]

In the meantime, I'm forced to just read about the game and turn up stuff like this: http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-ways-fallout-new-vegas-made-me-worse-person/

Holy fucking shit, that was hilarious.

[Ingmar]

Do glasses prevent you from wearing a helmet? I didn't take that trait because I didn't think +1 Per was worth not being able to use any helmet.

Closed face helmets are a no, open face are yes, I think.

[apocrypha]

You can wear glasses with the 1st Recon Beret, which is the only hat I have any intention of ever wearing in this game, apart from occasional uses of a Roving Trader Hat ofc. 

Here's a thing. How come I can fashion explosive devices that will shred supermutants out of bottle caps, cherry bombs and lunchboxes, and how come I can repair Power Armour with Metal Armour, but I have no idea how to make a campfire myself? 

[FatuousTwat]

First New Vegas DLC to be 360 exclusive.

 

[Tebonas]

Well, its one official DLC Xbox exclusive vs zillion mods PC exclusive.

Still no reason to buy the Xbox version. Wrong thing for Microsoft to throw their money at (only reason Bethesda can possibly have to pull this Xbox exclusive stunt).

[Engels]

You know what? Screw DLC for Fallout. The game's meant to be a complete story. Imagine if a bunch of derivative spin-offs had been made of LoTR for exa..oh wait.

[Slyfeind]

Damn. Know what just gave me chills?

[veredus]

This one does have some of those little depressing touches that I never noticed Fallout 3 really having.

[Merusk]

F3 had those.  The one I remember is the drainage shelter with the crutches and the journal from the father talking about how much sicker the kid was getting.   There were a few others as well, but that was the only kid one I recall.

[rk47]

I'm not hating F3 much, but a lot of areas could use a lot of improvement in writing, New Vegas addressed that defeciency. But reading some F3 fans hating New Vegas for being too 'Speech check' intensive is depressing.This is why we can't have good things. They wanted more shooting and supermutants to kill in the wastelands, imagine that! Call of Duty: New Vegas,it ain't!

[Tebonas]

I want more shooting as well, sadly shooting those retards would be illegal.

[LK]

I do wish there was some more action-packed elements, but if that's not Fallout, that's not Fallout.

[MuffinMan]

They wanted more shooting and supermutants to kill in the wastelands, imagine that! Call of Duty: New Vegas,it ain't!

Maybe they'll add in some QTEs and a surfing mini-game in the expansion for them.

[shiznitz]

Just getting started. Took the mission to kill Ringo. Met him. Changed my mind. Killed Cobb (at level 1 mind you). Love how the characters change my mind sometimes in these games.  Guns, Science, Repair tagged with Good-Natured trait.

[jakonovski]

I started a new game with a dude that has STR9 CHA9 LCK9 INT1. He likes bartering, explosives and melee weapons and walking the wasteland. We shall see how it goes.

[MuffinMan]

I'm not sure if I'm ever going to finish this game. I'm about 30 hours in and maybe chipping in one night a week for a few hours but I'm not losing interest. That's really strange for me to do that with a game, usually once I stop hammering it () I completely stop.

[Threash]

You know, i was fairly impressed how much the geography of F3 matched DC, but This just blew my fucking mind.  I know what i'm doing if i ever go to Vegas, fuck the casinos.

[Lantyssa]

Until you look left and see it's flat.

[Miasma]

You know, i was fairly impressed how much the geography of F3 matched DC, but This just blew my fucking mind.  I know what i'm doing if i ever go to Vegas, fuck the casinos.

Holy holy shit.