Superman Returns (Again)

[HaemishM]

The flying part was good. The rest... what the fuck did I just watch? That's not what I want to see in a Superman movie. I hope that's a 1-minute montage and not actually much of the story.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Watching batman the trailer popped up and my girlfriend goes "Oh god is this aqua man?" then after it finished "It would have been better if it were aqua man"

[DraconianOne]

Saw it on big screen. Still shit - but the flying scene was much better on the big screen.

[Ratman_tf]

Return (again!)

Is it a bird? Is it a Vimeo camera test? Is it a fishing documentary? No, it's the Man of Steel teaser trailer

[Khaldun]

Come on, what part of "Superman has your crabs" are you not liking?

[UnSub]

Watching batman the trailer popped up and my girlfriend goes "Oh god is this aqua man?" then after it finished "It would have been better if it were aqua man"

I wondered if there was an "Aquaman" film I was unaware of until I saw that Zack Snyder was involved.

It's a weak trailer, but obviously Superman goes on a journey along side the common people for some reason.

[DraconianOne]

Bootleg version of longer trailer currently online (but probably not for long)

EDIT: Still has touches of Vimeo camera tests at the start but the brief glimpses of action show hints of Snyder's usual visual flare.

[sickrubik]

That looks like it's the Con package that the were showing. The current teases are already available online.

And I really hope Nolan's tutelage over the project helps center Snyder. He... is quickly becoming M. Knight Shyamalan Part 2 for me.

[sickrubik]

New Man of Steel trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVu3gS7iJu4&feature=youtu.be

[MrHat]

New Man of Steel trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVu3gS7iJu4&feature=youtu.be

Oh shit.

Great trailer.

[sickrubik]

Yeah... I'm intrigued now....

Plus, Michael Shannon is a bad ass.

[Ratman_tf]

"Should I have let them die?"

"Maybe. Maybe rape a nun while you're at it Clark."

BEST PARENTING EVAR!

[Ragnoros]

Yeah, seems like a movie rendition of what Superman would be like if he had realistically bigoted farmer hick shitty parents.

Which is interesting, because Superman as a character really can't be challenged by external forces; legitimate conflict must come from within. So the struggle to overcome being raised by asshole parents could be interesting as a plot device. I still hate it and want him to punch things though. Much prefer the JLA approach: Hey look a thing! Go throw a statue/car/building/small continent at it!

[sickrubik]

I think we are reading far too much from a single line in that trailer. We don't know what the threat coming from the incident is that would cause Jonathan to react that way.

I read more of a "Well, shit, we got an alien kid and don't want him taken away" vibe from the comments more than a "YES YOU SHOULD LET THEM ALL DIE, FUCK KIDS, CLARK" kinda thing.

[Ragnoros]

I think we are reading far too much from a single line in that trailer. We don't know what the threat coming from the incident is that would cause Jonathan to react that way.

I read more of a "Well, shit, we got an alien kid and don't want him taken away" vibe from the comments more than a "YES YOU SHOULD LET THEM ALL DIE, FUCK KIDS, CLARK" kinda thing.

I was actually more referring to the line at 2:04: "My father believed that if the world found out who I really was it'd reject me. He was convinced."

Obviously, my avatar shows the direction I lean in the debate succinctly.

BTW: What the hell is with it'd? I get that it is "it would" as a contraction, but it's such an ugly thing to write. Damn you English language and your fluidity!

[Lakov_Sanite]

The trailer is obviously showing that the bad guy in this movie is us, it's how the "real world" would deal with superman if he just showed up.  No super villains, no space monsters, just an near-all powerful being showing up on our doorstep and how we'd react to that...generally not well I'd assume.

[HaemishM]

The villain in the piece is Zod. The conflict with the real world is just setting up some internal character conflict. Expect lots of SMASHY SMASH.

[Nevermore]

That trailer made me wonder how Clark Kent can shave.  What earthly material has the power to scrap off Superman's chin whiskers? 

[Lakov_Sanite]

That trailer made me wonder how Clark Kent can shave.  What earthly material has the power to scrap off Superman's chin whiskers? 

Pretty sure I've seen him shave with eye lasers and a mirror before.

[Ironwood]

Well, that trailer was annoying as fuck.

Louder Choral Singing Please.  Really, really blast my eardrums and make the whole thing a cacophony of fucking epic pointlessness, you utter cunts.

[Ratman_tf]

The villain in the piece is Zod. The conflict with the real world is just setting up some internal character conflict. Expect lots of SMASHY SMASH.

Bleargh. Zod is a lazy villain. Toyman all the way! 

[Mrbloodworth]

The villain in the piece is Zod. The conflict with the real world is just setting up some internal character conflict. Expect lots of SMASHY SMASH.

Michael Shannon would also make a great joker.

[Merusk]

That trailer made me wonder how Clark Kent can shave.  What earthly material has the power to scrap off Superman's chin whiskers? 

Pretty sure I've seen him shave with eye lasers and a mirror before.

Which always raises even more questions.  If eye-lasers can trim his beard, why can't Lexcorp lasers destroy his hair so he's as bald as Luthor after being fried? Why will eye lasers melt his hair but not his skin?   If his eye lasers are tough enough to melt his hair that metal razors can't touch, can't he just eyeblast every known material to oblivion?

Superman gets really dumb really quick when you ask questions.   Part of the reason I always preferred Batman.  Still illogical but a little less so than Supes.

[Samwise]

That trailer made me wonder how Clark Kent can shave.  What earthly material has the power to scrap off Superman's chin whiskers?  

Pretty sure I've seen him shave with eye lasers and a mirror before.

Which always raises even more questions.  If eye-lasers can trim his beard, why can't Lexcorp lasers destroy his hair so he's as bald as Luthor after being fried? Why will eye lasers melt his hair but not his skin?   If his eye lasers are tough enough to melt his hair that metal razors can't touch, can't he just eyeblast every known material to oblivion?

I remember the comic explaining at one point that he used a piece of metal from his original spaceship to deflect his heat vision and shave, yeah.  The illustration made it look like a very careful operation, so I'd assume he'd be capable of giving himself an owie if he just blasted his own face indiscriminately, but he's super-precise so as to just scorch off the stubble without giving himself a razor burn.

I don't know why you'd assume that Lexcorp lasers are the same as Superman's heat vision (unless it was established somewhere that they're the same)?  Can easily say that Superman's heat vision is way stronger, or at a special wavelength, or something.

Yes, he can eyeblast every known material to oblivion, he's goddamn Superman.

No, Superman doesn't make any sense.

The conversation about us being the bad guy makes me think that a Dark Knight Returns (the Frank Miller comic) prequel movie could be really cool.  Show the events that led up to all the heroes going into exile.  I'd watch that.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I hadn't looked it up so I didn't know zod was in it but I like to hope they are actually going to make zod less a mustache twirling villain and more of a facist peace through power type villain.  That way it can still be a very human story of what you do with unchecked power and less a good vs evil black and white type movie. 

[Samwise]

I hadn't looked it up so I didn't know zod was in it but I like to hope they are actually going to make zod less a mustache twirling villain and more of a facist peace through power type villain.  That way it can still be a very human story of what you do with unchecked power and less a good vs evil black and white type movie. 

With the setup of people being scared of Superman, I can easily see them setting up a Xavier vs Magneto dynamic.

[Ironwood]

It's like you don't know Zod at all.

[HaemishM]

If there isn't at least one "Kneel Before Zod" this movie will blow. 

[Samwise]

I should add, I don't think it'd be good for them to rewrite Zod as Magneto.  We already have a Magneto.  His name is Magneto.  

[Ironwood]

Or Snookums.

To be serious, the character of Zod has pretty much been written and remains fairly easy to do and not fuck up.  He's a pretty standard evil archetype. 

The Superman in that trailer confuses me though.  I'm not sure I'm going to like the film much, but I never liked Superman very much anyway, so I'm not the target audience.  I want to watch Batman punch him in the face with Kryptonite Knuckles every time.

I'm not really sure how Mental Case in Boardwalk Empire is going to work though.

[sickrubik]

I'm not really sure how Mental Case in Boardwalk Empire is going to work though.

Michael Shannon is a really really good actor.

[Ironwood]

I didn't mean to come abusive or dismissive :  I literally haven't seen him in ANYTHING else.

So, I'm curious.

[Lakov_Sanite]

I should say if this movie portrays Zod "Right" I do not believe the old movie did that and that he was more evil for its own sake in the Reeves movie.

[Ironwood]

No.  No.  No.

[Venkman]

Loved the trailer. Not surprised you're not sure about Zod. 

Sure the Gladiator-esque choral was a bit loud. But I appreciate it just for being different. I'm not sure about the spaceships though. A first for a Superman movie, which is why I'm not sure about it. Maybe it's all related to Zod in some way?