Your very first post

[Slayerik]

My first is an April 2004 medium-size bit of pontificating about something that had WoW players all in a fucking uproar. I can't even remember clearly what the issue was.

In one small, puny way, MMOG designers have themselves to blame for this. Oh, not all the stuff about how they handle Beta, nor even necessarily the massive clustering of stupidity that somehow infests Blizzard's most devoted fanbase, but simply this: because they continue, again and again, to design persistent-world games where the first and fastest levellers/looters/what have you have permanent advantages, where being ahead of the curve matters to those powergamers that care about such things, they have created a near-unstoppable demand among powergamers for early admission to Betas. Reason: because it confers an overwhelming advantage in terms of being the fastest leveller/looter. At the least, because you gain a huge advantage in terms of knowledge of the gameworld and game mechanics. More often, because you and your guildies learn about a bug or exploit and you keep it to yourselves.

The answer to that is to rethink the entire design of MMOGs and the way they deal with persistence. Ain't gonna happen soon, from what we're seeing. So expect every inbred catass to immolate himself on the lawn of an MMOG designer when he doesn't get into Beta, because the sad thing is that for the players for whom catassing matters, Beta matters.

[Ironwood]

 

[Teleku]

You got a pitcher who has almost no cartaledge left in his knee, is old, and spent most of last season injured.

Hey, I'll trade you Kevin Brown as well if your interested.

Heh.

[Samwise]

My first post wasn't very exciting, just a halfhearted defense of I, Robot.

No.  Either the movie is an utter farce of Asimiov's robot stories or someone in Hollywood purposefully decided that make trailers that totally missrepresent the actual movie.

Option 2 is much closer to the mark.  I would go so far as to say that the basic plot (if not the dialogue) would not have been out of place as one of the short stories in the original book.  I admit it's been a while since I read the book, but I'm usually very critical of movies-based-on-books deviating from the source material, and in my judgement this movie passed muster.

The trailer very much sells the movie short.  I'm guessing that they were aiming to pull in the larger "dumb action movie" demographic right off the bat, hoping that the smarter "decent sci-fi flick" demographic would either see it out of curiosity or hear good things about it on the Web after its release.

I would prefer to be remembered instead for the rabid Doom 3 fanboying on display in my second post.

The flashlight is for wusses anyway.  We didn't have a flashlight in Doom 1 or 2, and did we stand around with our thumbs in our asses hoping the lights would come back on?  No!  We let the hellfire and muzzle flashes light our way.

Also, we ate our carrots.  Kids today are just lazy.

 

[Xuri]

I got bored of just lurking and went off-topic in my very first post.

Sorry for going off-topic in my very first post on the forums, but... could the same methods that people use to "housebreak" dogs be used to do the same to MMORPG/MMOG-players? :P Can't exactly rub their noses in shit and yell "No! Bad MMORPG/MMOG-player!", but...

[Nonentity]

My first post was about Summon Knight: Swordcraft Story for the GBA, which is kind of awesome, because I was just trying to remember the name of that game yesterday.

I finally picked up this game. I got Sugar on my female character, which is kind of bizarre, I'll admit.

I didn't know about the crafting it twice to get the mystic ore weapons - I have so much mystic ore, it's literally falling out of my ass.

Really a charming game, though - it makes me happy to hear there are sequels.

I'm totally going back and buying this game and the sequels. I dunno where my original cart for this is.

[Mrbloodworth]

This was mine. Instantly branded a mole.

You should give it a try.


There have also been 3 major additions, Expanded Combat deployable (Link 2) as well as upgradeable wall turrets, the revamped sunderer (Link 2) , and soon (may 20th) 3 new pistols, a flamethrower, and a new rifle , as well as the 4 year event.

And you should Check out this  video. (Right Click Save As)

Here is a link to a sort of "Future timeline" for implementing things, its somewhat vague as it of course was made before they really started putting things on paper and designing it, but it will give you a glimpse to the thinking of the developers and the pace they hope to achieve.

Development for the next quarter

As a long time fan of this game, i hope you will excuse me attempting to bring the fun to more people, new and old. I look forward to reading more here in the feature.

Mr.B

EDIT: You can find me on the Emerald server, Terran Republic, i am always willing to help new players and am looking to expand my Outfits ranks. No prior experience necessary.
 

[Rasix]

Brand's still there, hombre.   

[Mrbloodworth]

Brand's still there, hombre.   

At least I'm consistent!

[Daeven]

Same as it ever was.

I thought the point of waterthread was t olaugh at the frenzied MMOG fans, who seem unable to realize they love the skinner box.

You mean the scope is being expanded to 'officially' cover other areas of idiocy and stupidity in gaming?

Score!

[Slyfeind]

Heh. SWG, NGE.

Well I'll be damned. This is the discussion I've been looking all over the Internet for since I heard about the NGE...which was a week ago.

I resubbed to SWG earlier this month, because I wanted to re-experience the magic of it all. It was another Koster-world, and I loved it for that. But then a week later, I discovered that all that magic was going away. Forever.

Some say to quit and move to a different game. That would be applicable with most other games out there. Don't like EQ? Go to WoW. Don't like UO? Go to M59. Or whatever, they're all pretty much the same these days. But SWG was different. There is no other game to take its place. SWG was the last of the comprehensive world-style social habitats with combat, and now we have to sit around and wait for the next one.

Some say the old system sucked, and this new system is breathing new life into it. Unfortunately, over the course of SWG's life, it attracted and kept the players who liked that kind of game system. And to paraphrase the most ironic statement from Jeff Freeman, the current subscribers have been alienated, with hopes that people will leave the game they currently love, in favor of a game that's over two years old. That's a dangerous gamble.

I was one of those players who liked the entertainment scene, but also liked to go out and hunt once in a while. I know plenty of players who liked that sort of thing. SWG was the only game that let me do that, and now it's no longer an option. I could make a combat alt, but I'd much rather play a kung-fu rock-n-roll street-dance fighter rolled into one.

Interesting to watch it all go live, and see the naysayers go "Wow, this really DOES suck!" Also interesting to watch people champion it, crying "It's so much better now!" Truly, this is closer to what SOE should have done from the start. But they didn't, and so they attracted a different kind of gamer, and a different set of playstyles, than they would have otherwise. I don't see that as a good thing, nor as a bad thing. It was simply the way things turned out. Much better, I think, to just repackage this into SWG Adventures, and port that straight to the console market, like they did with EQ Adventures. I have seen no reason to think that SWG was headed to cancelation as it stood.

Now I'm sad about it again. :(

[Ratman_tf]

Stay a while. Stay forever.

[caladein]

Just the facts ma'am (and speculation).  Also, parentheticals from Day One.

Five servers that you can be evacuated from, four new servers, and about 50 servers blacklisted from being able to transfered to (what's that, a bit over a third of all US servers?).

What I found a bit more interesting is that they're moving all the same language Euro servers to the same datacenters (Curse story) in prep for cross-server battlegrounds. Popular theory in my guild is that they're starting off with servers in the same datacenter and possibly branching out from there.

[Thrawn]

From and old MNM (my old WoW crew) vs F13 TF2 scrim where we beat F13 but then they got all salty about it.  Nov 4th 2007  

I did actualy record the entire match from my perspective....but I'm probably too lazy to ever get it all converted and posted and I played too badly most of the maps to send it to someone else to look at.

[Abagadro]

I went back and looked and 9 out of my first 10 posts or so is about poker which shows how completely my life revolved around the game back in early 2004.

[UnSub]

And you were there... and you... and you!

As a fanboi of this game, who followed it for two years and noted that everytime it was brought up on Waterthread the general consensus was "Who cares? It's gonna suck", all I can say is that CoH is worth the wait. Also, it's nice to see that most of you other cynical bastards agree.

It is my honest opinion that it will be the yardstick by which every other mmog will be measured (assuming launch day isn't fubared). Imagine this: 1) an independent studio 2) creates an original game 3) in a new genre 4) without having a movie / IP licence as a base and 5) it is better than anything else on the market. How's that for being completely against mmog industry trends?

In fact, my biggest complaint is now the forums have gone to hell. Can't have it both ways I guess.

... and then WoW happened.

[hal]

Thanks for inviting me into corp. I'm enjoying our forward base.

I had to go look. Was about my invite to eve in 2006.

[Fraeg]

well I still stand by this:

re: books

I always feel obligated to make a pitch for my hometown hero Kim Stanley Robinson.  His trilogy on Mars are THE books to read on the colonization of Mars in my perfect little world.  The Years of Rice and Salt and Antarctica are great reads as well.

Another plug is for David Wingrove's Chung Kuo series.  8 books of great alternate history.

As for Simmon's Hyperion, they get the double thumbs up from me as well.


-fraeg

[Krakrok]

Should have just gone with text-to-speech tech and been done with it. Would have saved 8 CDs worth of data. At 1 meg a minute on MP3 128kbps that is 7.8 gigs for 130 hours (YMMV).

What with the singing software and all I think text to speech is ready for primetime.

I wonder if this actually was my first post or if it was my walloftext review of the Sidekick which promptly got Dened because it looked like astroturfing.

[Typhon]

I'm not 100% what the hell I'm babbling about here.  I think it's, "leveling is fun! grinding sucks!"

If the karate kid didn't have to paint fences and do the other crap that miagi (sp, whatever) had him do, if he just suddenly said, 'whoa, i know kung fu', what kind of story does that make?  Does anyone watch that story?  The part you aren't getting is that these games are built upon a genre where the lowly student strives and struggles to eventually become the master.  If this core concept doesn't seem fun to you, you are probably in the wrong genre.

I'm not saying that the current method of leveling is fun, but I AM saying that humans understand at a gut level that anything worthwhile requires an expenditure of effort.  Also, I'm saying that you don't get it because you're refusing to be immersed in whatever game you are playing.  You are burnt out on the drama and grandeur these worlds are supposed to provide.  Your friend isn't.

'whoa, i know kung fu', a funny thing to say because the Matrix (1) was a decent-enough story, so I actually provide a counter-point to the point I was trying to make. 

"You are burnt out on the drama and grandeur these worlds are supposed to provide.", I cannot for the life of me figure out what the hell I was trying to say there.  I do want to go back six years and smack myself upside the head for trying to be clever rather than clear.

[Lantyssa]

It's reads more like "Grinding is great!" to me.

[Brogarn]

Ok, I played EQ2 in beta and absolutely hated it. I keep reading, though, that now it's a pretty solid and fun game. Where should I go to get all the standard information like classes and such? I'm not yet sure if I'm going to give a free trial a go yet, or not. I'm just in the initial stages of pondering if there's anything that gets me excited enough to play. I looked at ye ole standard Allakhazam's, but either it's poorly organized and lacking info, or my brain has finally turned to the diseased organ I always knew my company would turn it into.

Any help is appreciated!

Hopefully this isn't a retarded first post. I found this place from Lum's brokentoys.org, so blame him even though he has no clue who I am. Strangers make the best scapegoats imo.

I read through some of my other posts as well and have come to the conclusion that I am really fucking boring.

[Soln]

funny I also seem to be boring.  Who knew?  All my gutless lurking from waterthread lead to this first post:

Unionization is not the fucking answer. Unionization did very little to help the automobile industry in this country. Sure, unions have gotten us worker types some good things, like 40-hour work weeks. But they almost always end up causing just as many problems as they might solve.

No, what needs to happen to game industry workers is to get some testicular fortitude, nut up and say "Fuck you" to working 60-100 hour work weeks. That shit's not right. The fact that ANYONE works for people like EA willingly just feeds into that mentality. You know what? If you are decent enough to be getting a programming job at some place like EA, you can take the same skills to a non-game company and make fucking twice that without mandated retardation built into the plan. You won't be making games, but you also won't be shortening your life by years just for the pride of having your name on Madden 2008.

Respect your goddamn selves. Only fucking slaves work at wages and hours the game industry mandates.

what Haemish said.  unions == mediocrity

the OT and other HR disasters publicized about EA aren't unique to game companies -- anyone that makes consumer software can expect to be pumelled occassionally because the products are following the "consumer" market and its seasons and fads.  You have to have serial releases and can't get a year+ to build something unless you're innovating and building new core components.  But it's a management failure when OT happens repeatedly.   Good tech managers know that and realize it costs a shitload more to replace someone good than to throw dozens of contractors at a problem.  What worries me a lot is outsourcers like (Indian) InfoSys who cater to these kind fucked up expectations and make it seem the norm.  That's why more people want some defence (unions).  But I don't think it's realistic

hello BTW :)

[raydeen]

Mine was fairly innocuous.

Long time lurker, first time poster.

This one gets the Zero Wing award:
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-tech-support&t=237072&p=1&tmp=1#post237072

Link doesn't work anymore but it was some amazing engrish. WayAbvPar fortunately copied some/all of the text.

http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=2543.msg69554#msg69554

To which Schild responded:

Goddamn. You delurk to hurt us? Welcome aboard.

I knew I'd found my home.

[Draegan]

Reply #74 on: October 30, 2007, 02:19:04 pm     
He whores himself out on other message boards I frequent as well.  Pain in the ass if you ask me.

It was a response to schild:

Please to not be using this thread as self-pimpage. That interview was a one time deal I let slide because it was about AOC and I was too lazy to get one myself.

Renowned Uber Guild Leaders can suck my dick.

Which was a response to a deleted post.   

[Sky]

Got some room for a 'stranger'? I'll probably have to roll up a new character for BC, as I used my 'main' to start up a supergroup already (for the morlocks).

My 'main' is the Cosmic Anomaly, an Energy/Energy Blaster, lvl 12 as of the cutoff.

Oh, and hi!

My first post was a thread I started about joining up the BC CoH chapter, after having been banned from WTO. I then talked about how I thought this <3 was a teabag emote.

[Strazos]

Steelers - because i flipped a coin, and pittsburgh won

Eagles - the team of my second home. even with the suspect run defense, i still have to take them over the Falcons - i just don't buy into the falcons' hype, coming out of the weakest division, and prolly with a weaker schedule, etc. Also, the Eagles' defense is just more dominating. This game will be won decisively, either for or against the Eagles.

Eagles v Steelers in the Super Bowl

Ya, i know this won't count FTW, but it was the only thing i had time for before class, hehe

My first post, For Teh Win!!

/facepalm

I don't even know why I posted that; I hate the Eagles, and by extension the NFL and football in general.

[NowhereMan]

And the Irish are sticking with Cessnas for the time being it seems...

This was in a thread about the EU smacking down Microsoft over something. My initial series of posts seem to have been about beer or movies. Apart from pointing out that everything that was wrong with anything was obviously Schild's fault.

[Teleku]

And the Irish are sticking with Cessnas for the time being it seems...

This was in a thread about the EU smacking down Microsoft over something. My initial series of posts seem to have been about beer or movies. Apart from pointing out that everything that was wrong with anything was obviously Schild's fault.

That was part of a minor derail caused by my second post on the forums, where I was blatantly trolling euro's.   

[Ironwood]

That was trolling ?  I thought you were just being a moron.

[Chimpy]

My first post was saying that I was unemployed in the what do you do and where thread.

3 1/2 years later...I am unemployed again.

Circle of life and all that shit.

[shiznitz]

I left the political threads here a while ago. My first post from March 2004:

I took a lot of grief on the old boards for my statements about how AIDS is NOT a concern of heterosexual men. I was not smoking crack at the time.

I haven't changed, but I have decided to have these discussions elsewhere!  This site is about gaming and football!  And that link is no longer what is was, obviously.

[Samwise]

And suddenly Ironwood's otherwise bizarre first post makes perfect sense.

[Ironwood]

Yes.  Back then, if I didn't know someone, I tended not to just man up and call them a cunt.


Like I should have.

[Riggswolfe]

My first post was incredibly boring and was back in April of 2004, though it does illustrate what first brought me to this site:

Hero Name: The Blue Bomb
Hero Archetype: Ice Ice Blaster
Catass commitment: Yes, yes, and hell yes.

The biggest change from then to now? Two things: You couldn't pay me to catass and I no longer play MMOs with you guys because of your our notoriously short attention spans.