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Reply #840 on: December 21, 2010, 09:07:04 AM

I'd rather lobby for relegation for the entire NFC West division to NCAA Division 2 or something.

That entire division lost last week. It's almost surreal. The possibility of a 7-9 champ is becoming a stark reality. Who will get fucked by this? Probably the Pack and the Bucs. Outside chance of the Giants, which would just be a total tear-feast.

Would love to see a 6-10 or 7-9 NFC West squad make it to the Super Bowl — it could happen, Cardinals turned it up in playoffs after lackluster finish at 9-7, then got hot in the post-season weeks after being dismissed as completely unworthy of playoff play.

Might trigger momentum to expand playoff field to 8 instead of 6, in addition to the home seeding change that seems to be what the broadcast jockocracy is currently contemplating. Seeing 7-9 make the post season while a 12-4 team sits would be egregious.

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Reply #841 on: December 21, 2010, 09:08:32 AM

I'm all too afraid it WILL make the NFL add another playoff team, which I think would be a fucking tragedy. We already usually have 1-2 patsies per year, now you want to add more teams like last year's Bengals?

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Reply #842 on: December 21, 2010, 09:34:59 AM



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Reply #843 on: December 21, 2010, 09:35:09 AM

I'm all too afraid it WILL make the NFL add another playoff team, which I think would be a fucking tragedy. We already usually have 1-2 patsies per year, now you want to add more teams like last year's Bengals?

I'd like to see them expand to 40 teams too, along with adding playoff slots. But that's not going to happen because NFL ownership is a license to print money, the 32 owners are disagreeable to further splitting of the kitty, plus with vacant metro spots like Los Angeles, it provides owners a negotiation chip in demanding new publicly funded stadiums or they'll split for a more generous city with an ample fan base.

Yeah, expanding playoff field lets in some dubious teams, but more football, the better — though I hope they don't expand to 18 games, 16 is already too much. But 4 team divisions means you're going to let in some undeserving teams while others are penalized just by luck of the division they inhabit.

Unless the divisions are shuffled each year and set according to W-L record (like schedule is currently calculated by), but that will never happen either.

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Reply #844 on: December 21, 2010, 09:41:30 AM


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Reply #845 on: December 21, 2010, 10:00:47 AM


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Reply #846 on: December 21, 2010, 04:48:59 PM

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Reply #847 on: December 21, 2010, 08:53:50 PM

That is kinda sad. I have a soft spot for the guy who used to be tough as nails. I will always remember him taking a huge hit by a DE and getting up and slapping the DE on the ass with a smile on his face. Now, it like the commercial with Betty White and Abe Vigoda.

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Reply #848 on: December 21, 2010, 09:17:43 PM

That is kinda sad.

It would have been sad in 2008.

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Reply #849 on: December 22, 2010, 06:21:41 AM

I considered him an archenemy for years, but I'll admit that watching the play did make me feel a little sad. And then I remembered that I had to take Favre in my pool, because someone took Rivers the pick before, and I felt a little less sad. And then I saw the score, and realized that I was actually going to be watching playoff footbal for the first time in years, and I had a happy.

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Reply #850 on: December 22, 2010, 07:48:46 AM

In continuing the bizarre Jets news cycle this season.

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Reply #851 on: December 22, 2010, 08:15:29 AM

The only interesting part of that story is that it may be enough of a controversy for the Jets to do well, since that is when they seem to be at their best. Besides that, that story is dumb.
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Reply #852 on: December 23, 2010, 07:06:39 AM


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Reply #853 on: December 25, 2010, 07:53:02 PM

Oh Cowboys  awesome, for real


Odds on that kicker still having a job next week?

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Reply #854 on: December 25, 2010, 10:24:40 PM

Oh Cowboys  awesome, for real


Odds on that kicker still having a job next week?

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Reply #855 on: December 26, 2010, 06:20:41 AM

I think it's just a matter of how soon Jerry decides to can him.
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Reply #856 on: December 26, 2010, 04:07:21 PM

The Cowboys were dead anyway so I don't care.

I am however laughing at Eli. Oh Giants, keep proving that Super Bowl was a total fluke.  awesome, for real

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Reply #857 on: December 26, 2010, 04:35:58 PM

Christ that GB/NY game was a horror of comedic errors. And I am really starting to loathe Eli's "aw shucks" head bobble after every dumbass mistake he makes. I have no idea how anyone on that offense plays with any confidence in him EVER.

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Reply #858 on: December 26, 2010, 06:47:18 PM

One of these years the slow starts by the Chargers were going to bite us in the ass, but I can't say it hasn't been fun DRILLING AND MANLINESS.

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Reply #859 on: December 26, 2010, 06:58:30 PM

Christ that GB/NY game was a horror of comedic errors. And I am really starting to loathe Eli's "aw shucks" head bobble after every dumbass mistake he makes. I have no idea how anyone on that offense plays with any confidence in him EVER.

He gets the yips real easy. He's a good QB but he's never had the composure to consistently not make those kinds of dumbass decisions that cost his team games. When he's hot, he's very good. When he's pressured, he can be really bad. Today was one of those bad days.

So now all Green Bay has to do is beat the Bears at Lambeau. I think they can do it. The Bears can be really good and, like the Giants, can be really really bad. We'll have to see which offense shows up. I think Green Bay's D can pressure Cutler enough to win.

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Reply #860 on: December 27, 2010, 03:49:00 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5958834

Singletary out... not that I am surprised, but I wonder how much of a chance management and ownership really thought the 9ers would contend. Granted, it was the NFC west but still.

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Reply #861 on: December 27, 2010, 07:15:46 AM

I think he said it best about SF when he gave his famous tirade: "Cannot play with them, cannot win with them, cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people who want to win."

Too bad there were none of those players left on the 49ers.

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Reply #862 on: December 27, 2010, 11:31:42 AM

They had players. Good ones. Singletary was just way in over his head. No way someone should go from position coach straight to head coach.

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Reply #863 on: December 27, 2010, 11:50:17 AM

The don't have the most important thing: a functional QB. I don't care what kind of talent you have on your team today. In this league, if you don't have a solid QB, you likely cannot get to the second round of the playoffs.

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Reply #864 on: December 27, 2010, 12:06:26 PM

The Niners were 8 - 8 last year under Singletary -- their first non-losing season since 2002. It didn't seem that far fetched at the beginning of this season that they could go 9 - 7 and win the division. Heck even going 7 - 9 might win the division this year.
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Reply #865 on: December 27, 2010, 12:41:11 PM

They had players. Good ones. Singletary was just way in over his head. No way someone should go from position coach straight to head coach.

He's not over his head, he's just trying to coach in the wrong era.  Today's namby pamby pretty little princess prima donnas don't react well to the his style, especially since they make several times more than he does.   
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Reply #866 on: December 27, 2010, 12:45:20 PM

Plus, Alex Smith could have totally won if it wasn't for Singletary's interference.  awesome, for real

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Reply #867 on: December 27, 2010, 03:24:35 PM

They had players. Good ones. Singletary was just way in over his head. No way someone should go from position coach straight to head coach.

He's not over his head, he's just trying to coach in the wrong era.  Today's namby pamby pretty little princess prima donnas don't react well to the his style, especially since they make several times more than he does.   

That's every era.  I guarantee coaches thought that when they were coaching Singletary's generation.

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Reply #868 on: December 27, 2010, 03:25:47 PM

Actually, I think Alex Smith could win, but there hasn't really been a functional offensive system there the entire time he's been there. How many offensive coordinators has he gone through? I'm not saying he'd ever be elite, but he has shown flashes of competency. The continual switching of systems when things haven't worked haven't helped. He finally had weapons this year at receiver, but there doesn't appear to have ever been anything close to a team. I can't pinpoint exactly where it all went wrong but the fuckups in that team go higher and lower than the head coach.

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Reply #869 on: December 27, 2010, 07:46:42 PM

5 years in the league, 5 Offensive Coordinators.

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Reply #870 on: December 28, 2010, 12:56:03 PM

I was eagerly awaiting Smith stepping up to Singletary and getting a beat down, moving this thread to merge with the mma thread. My money would be on on Mike Singletary inside of one round vs. Smith. What the hell is he thinking?
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Reply #871 on: December 28, 2010, 06:33:23 PM

I don't think I have ever witnessed the Eagles be so inept at changing offensive blocking schemes to pick up THE SAME GOD DAMN BLITZ that has been pouring through and around their line all half. Seriously... even my non-football strategic self can see you need to put another guy back there to give Vick at least 2 seconds to look down field. meh...

And on the other side, where the fuck was this at all season for the Vikings?

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Reply #872 on: December 28, 2010, 06:42:33 PM

They had players. Good ones. Singletary was just way in over his head. No way someone should go from position coach straight to head coach.

He's not over his head, he's just trying to coach in the wrong era.  Today's namby pamby pretty little princess prima donnas don't react well to the his style, especially since they make several times more than he does.   

No. That has nothing at all to do with his problems. He has no experience and no connections with other coaches in the league, so not only did he not know what he was doing, most of the competent coordinators who could have helped him don't know him and didn't want to take the chance of working for him. You can yell and 'motivate' people all day but if you can't actually design a play or call the right play, or hire someone to do those two things for you competently, you will fail.

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Reply #873 on: December 29, 2010, 05:56:07 AM

So uh, going into the final week of the regular season and the 6-9 Seahawks control their own destiny in getting to the playoffs. God bless the NFC West.

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Reply #874 on: December 29, 2010, 07:30:23 AM

They had players. Good ones. Singletary was just way in over his head. No way someone should go from position coach straight to head coach.

He's not over his head, he's just trying to coach in the wrong era.  Today's namby pamby pretty little princess prima donnas don't react well to the his style, especially since they make several times more than he does.   

No. That has nothing at all to do with his problems. He has no experience and no connections with other coaches in the league, so not only did he not know what he was doing, most of the competent coordinators who could have helped him don't know him and didn't want to take the chance of working for him. You can yell and 'motivate' people all day but if you can't actually design a play or call the right play, or hire someone to do those two things for you competently, you will fail.

As much as like Singletary, I'd have to say that's an accurate assessment.

Seems like (not just football, any sport), former gifted players who enjoyed stellar careers are poor coaching prospects. It's the borderline players and film jock X+O nerds that excel.

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