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Reply #490 on: April 10, 2010, 08:14:50 PM

David Allen did make that game named Mordor which was all about, well, I'm not really sure except it wasn't Mordor.  Doesn't that count for something?

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Reply #491 on: April 11, 2010, 12:22:27 AM

Plus, uh, Romero designed Doom. Last I checked neither David Allen nor Serek Dmart had anything like that on their resume.

Daikatana is still the watchword for overpromising and underdelivering when it comes to video games though and that is stamped up the top of Romero's CV.

Maybe Garriott and Romero are more direct equivalents than Allen and Smart, but they all meet lulzy failure requirements. It all depends if we want to argue points like whether a major fall from grace is the equivalent of being a loud-mouth forum troll who just happens to know how to code.

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Reply #492 on: April 11, 2010, 10:45:53 AM

I honestly don't think people outside the games industry look at games industry careers in anything like the manner people have been doing in this thread.

Although it would be pretty funny if Serek Dmart was introduced as a professional games developer with twenty years experience and the judge said "yeah - twenty years experience of suck!"
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Reply #493 on: April 11, 2010, 12:05:58 PM

I would kind of trust romero to be a cool guy who has more or less learned important lessons from his own personal disasters and take them and grow from them, as opposed to voldmart who seems more or less incurably sperglord.
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Reply #494 on: April 11, 2010, 03:14:38 PM

Daikatana is still the watchword for overpromising and underdelivering when it comes to video games though and that is stamped up the top of Romero's CV.

For my money, Duke Nukem easily tops Daikatana.  After all, Daikatana was actually released.
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Reply #495 on: April 11, 2010, 03:46:23 PM

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Daikatana is still the watchword for overpromising and underdelivering when it comes to video games though and that is stamped up the top of Romero's CV.

Except it's really not. So, uhhh, OK.
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Reply #496 on: April 12, 2010, 06:25:33 AM

David Allen did make that game named Mordor which was all about, well, I'm not really sure except it wasn't Mordor.  Doesn't that count for something?
Actually played and enjoyed that game for some time, though I can't really explain how or why I enjoyed it. *scratches head*

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Reply #497 on: April 12, 2010, 08:28:26 AM

David Allen did make that game named Mordor which was all about, well, I'm not really sure except it wasn't Mordor.  Doesn't that count for something?
Actually played and enjoyed that game for some time, though I can't really explain how or why I enjoyed it. *scratches head*

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Reply #498 on: April 12, 2010, 08:37:12 AM

You can't explain why he played or enjoyed it?

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Reply #499 on: April 13, 2010, 09:51:17 AM

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Reply #500 on: April 13, 2010, 10:05:26 AM

He doesn't even need an orange spray tan to look like a douche.

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Reply #501 on: April 13, 2010, 10:45:28 AM

...next, on The Jersey Shore, the gang meet their match in the drama dept.  why so serious?

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Reply #502 on: April 13, 2010, 10:54:08 AM

Compelling stuff. He really spins quite a tale, portraying himself as the humble hero who saves a struggling game from mediocrity.

As for the picture, well. It might convey many things, but professionalism isn't one of them – though it might have been MMORPG.com's editorial pick. All that is missing is Smart's Alganon net handle "BVRBandit" detailed on the front of his wife beater, and we'd be good to go. Business casual isn't quite what it used to be.

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Reply #503 on: April 13, 2010, 01:15:42 PM

All that is missing is Smart's Alganon net handle "BVRBandit" detailed on the front of his wife beater, and we'd be good to go. Business casual isn't quite what it used to be.


Oh fuck would that be funny!

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Reply #504 on: April 14, 2010, 01:42:43 AM

Very entertained to note that worshippers of the great man will be able to express their hero-worship via the game's new microtransaction system:

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Tribute Conversion Table (Subject to change)
Tribute    Cost (USD)
250    $1.45
500    $2.80
1000    $5.50
(Source:http://www.alganon.com/index/new-features)

An exciting opportunity to pay tribute to a true internet legend!
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Reply #505 on: April 14, 2010, 12:18:09 PM

If I pay the $1.25 can I cock-punch the good doctor, or must I purchase the full meal package?

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Reply #506 on: April 15, 2010, 09:59:26 AM

If I pay the $1.25 can I cock-punch the good doctor, or must I purchase the full meal package?

And to think people scoffed at me when I suggested an in-game event featuring Serek Dmart! The demand is clearly there.
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Reply #507 on: April 19, 2010, 03:52:44 AM

Get out the popcorn folks, another round of entertainment ensues.

DS gives an interview to Alganon critic Darzin here:
http://darzin.blogspot.com/2010/04/derek-smart-interview.html

Overall fairly sensible but I did like this gem:

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But no, when you have an inflated and bruised ego, employing common sense is not usually the first response.

(by the way Darzin, your comments box is too small for people to enter the capcha).

Also Derek summarises the legal situation on his own blog here:

http://www.dereksmart.com/2010/04/dave_allen_saga/

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Well this ought to be fun; and I’m just hoping that my attorneys have taken their heartburn medication.

Where do I start?

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I guess being a damn fool and a no-talent-having hack can take its toll, but carrying a firearm around the house? Man, that’s just some hardcore crazy shit.
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Reply #508 on: April 19, 2010, 04:22:02 AM

Christ. I normally love to read, but reading yet another Serek Dmart "you're all faggots and I rule" post? No thanks.

Also, just copy/pasted it into word. 19 pages, 8741 words. Christ he likes to zergrush people with words.

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Reply #509 on: April 19, 2010, 05:33:56 AM

Skimmed through the blog post. Meandering build-up, but once he gets going the man delivers the crazy in the end. From petty jibes to the kinds of remarks that make an eight-year-old seem mature, they're all there.

At the risk of sounding like a buzz-kill, I feel oddly compelled to quote Schild from page 5:

If I were his [Dmart's] community manager he wouldn't even remember what a keyboard looked like by now. He'd have to communicate via crayon and post-it.

When it comes to Dmart, less really would be more, though I'm guessing the lawyers won't mind, as they'll be amply compensated for their time either way.

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Reply #510 on: April 19, 2010, 05:52:18 AM

 ACK!

I still am under the impression that letting Serek continue to go upon his merry path has to be for a purpose. There MUST be a reason the shareholders have not ordered him to a code of silence because this is almost too much, even given Serek's history. I'd like to know what the undercurrent is in not gagging him already.

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Reply #511 on: April 19, 2010, 06:02:44 AM

Things you knew already:

"So I’m just going to lay it all out as it flows from my brain to my fingers."
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Reply #512 on: April 19, 2010, 06:05:21 AM

Things you knew already:

"So I’m just going to lay it all out as it flows from my brain to my fingers."
There's a brain involved? I would've thought any brain would be screaming "NO!" as loudly as it could. Ohhhhh, I see.

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Reply #513 on: April 19, 2010, 06:11:25 AM

If you are going to read it, skip to the "open letter to David Allen", where the crazy really starts to come in at an accelerated rate. Dr. Dmart really is not all there.
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Reply #514 on: April 19, 2010, 06:36:49 AM

Wow. Posting pictures of your wife and kids. I'm sure they're just thrilled to be a part of this.

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Reply #515 on: April 19, 2010, 06:52:42 AM

Quote from: he who must not be named
In the complaint he is suing me particularly for among other [ludicrous] things, defamation.
Ludicrous, indeed. I honestly can't see where that's coming from.

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Reply #516 on: April 19, 2010, 07:17:16 AM

When it comes to Dmart, less really would be more, though I'm guessing the lawyers won't mind, as they'll be amply compensated for their time either way.

I'd bet the lawyers are furious. I would also bet they've told him not to keep giving his opponents ammo.

Three things would I think particularly worry a lawyer.

1) After they've been retained DS is pissing the case away. This is (arguably) their fault for not making it clear to their client he cannot continue to do this. This is bad for their reputation.

2) Possible professional negligence proceedings arising from 1) after DS and QOL lose their case.

3) They may have to go to court with this guy. Does anyone think he will come across well in court before a judge?

It must be particularly worrying looking at the beginning of the blog post before the comedy parts. DS attempts to explain the law of defamation and concludes he can say anything he likes based on David Allen being a "public figure" (arguable) and based on a California precedent where someone got away with calling some public figure a dumb-ass. (The precedent does not apply because a) the proceedings are in a different state with separate defamation law and b) you can call someone a dumb-ass in California because it's not specific. Some of the mud thrown by DS is very specific).

So the lawyers have a situation where, perhaps, they are trying to restrain a client who is continuing to defame the plaintiff because he "knows better" than they do because he did a bit of googling on defamation law. /facepalm.
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Reply #517 on: April 19, 2010, 09:02:55 AM

What must be especially tough on the lawyers is that they know they absolutely cannot go to court with Dmart. They can't count on him to behave well once they're there, and no judge in the world is going to look generously on the innumerable ramblings that he's providing the other side. If you have a client that you can't afford to go to court with and the other side knows it, you're going into a settlement negotiation with them holding all the cards.
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Reply #518 on: April 19, 2010, 09:10:25 AM

You can buy insurance against being sued for breach of contract and defamation? lol...
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Reply #519 on: April 19, 2010, 09:45:25 AM

All this aside, Dsmart must be a brilliant speaker and charming guy in person, its the only reason I can see all of the shenanigans he has been involved in explained. From investors, to working his way from consultant to lead, to well, people listening to him in any real capacity. I mean, doesn't he chair a IGDC panal?

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Reply #520 on: April 19, 2010, 09:46:32 AM

What must be especially tough on the lawyers is that they know they absolutely cannot go to court with Dmart. They can't count on him to behave well once they're there, and no judge in the world is going to look generously on the innumerable ramblings that he's providing the other side. If you have a client that you can't afford to go to court with and the other side knows it, you're going into a settlement negotiation with them holding all the cards.

I am sure Smerek would eventually be jailed for contempt - and he would wear that as a badge of honor. Hell, I could not even imagine his ego fitting into the courtroom, let alone on the stand to testify if it came to that.

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Reply #521 on: April 19, 2010, 10:04:40 AM

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WARNING: This blog and all posts within are my property and are thus protected by copyright. It is also subject to revisions as things progress. Unless you really – truly – want to hear from my attorneys – DO NOT reprint it. If you must, just link to the URL.

I wonder what this part means? That him posting it and it being part of the internet and therefore public is not part of a potential lawsuit? That it's going to be revised? I understand the reprinting part, but seriously?

I await the redacted version anyway, it was too much to read.


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Reply #522 on: April 19, 2010, 10:10:45 AM

The redacted file Smart posted is not so redacted after all  Ohhhhh, I see.

http://www.dereksmart.org/bin/TheDaveAllenSaga-REDACTED.pdf

In case you're wondering just how badly Alganon did at launch you can find it on page 6...
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Reply #523 on: April 19, 2010, 10:29:21 AM

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WARNING: This blog and all posts within are my property and are thus protected by copyright. It is also subject to revisions as things progress. Unless you really – truly – want to hear from my attorneys – DO NOT reprint it. If you must, just link to the URL.

I wonder what this part means? That him posting it and it being part of the internet and therefore public is not part of a potential lawsuit? That it's going to be revised? I understand the reprinting part, but seriously?

I await the redacted version anyway, it was too much to read.

I think it means he is trying to scare the unknowing from reprinting his embarrassing rants.

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Reply #524 on: April 19, 2010, 10:48:57 AM

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WARNING: This blog and all posts within are my property and are thus protected by copyright. It is also subject to revisions as things progress. Unless you really – truly – want to hear from my attorneys – DO NOT reprint it. If you must, just link to the URL.

I wonder what this part means? That him posting it and it being part of the internet and therefore public is not part of a potential lawsuit? That it's going to be revised? I understand the reprinting part, but seriously?

I await the redacted version anyway, it was too much to read.

Note that he quoted f13 within his blog, without attribution. It occurs when he refers to "this post by Hue" which is linked to this screenshot:
www.*erek*mart.org/bin/Mathew_Henry_on_Alganon_tech.jpg

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