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on: November 07, 2009, 04:27:15 AM

OK, so the last gaming console I ever owned was made by Atari. I got a Wii for my kids a couple of years ago, but it lives at their mother's house.

Filled by an irrational buying impulse yesterday at Wal-Mart, I almost bought a PS3. But I resisted, and told myself to go home and do some research, in order to avoid buyers remorse.

I'm drawn by the idea of playing great-looking, fun games on my HD TV with surround sound. Dragon Age, FIFA 10, and a few other games lately have gotten me thinking how nice it would be to game from the couch in front of a huge, beautiful display with surround sound.

SOO...which system do ya'll recommend. I have Googled Xbox 360 vs PS3 and read a few articles. Some say Xbox is for shooters, PS3 looks better but is slower, there are more games for Xbox, PS 3 is also a Blue-Ray player.

Does the HD size matter much? Is that only for storing games on the system itself? Is the 250GB PS3 worth $50 more? Which has more or better non-gaming options (movie downloads, etc etc).

I'm looking for opinions.

Thanks!


Edit:

Found this post from last year, answered some questions. http://forums.f13.net/index.php?topic=15417.0
« Last Edit: November 07, 2009, 04:34:08 AM by ShenMolo »
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Reply #1 on: November 07, 2009, 05:37:17 AM

Even though I consider that on paper the PS3 hardware is more powerful, games should be looking pretty much similar on both consoles. PS3 still has some exclusivity in Japan, but other than that I think you can get pretty much every game for both platforms, as publishers want to get as big a slice of market share as possible nowadays.

360 has the better online experience, AFAIK.

Faced with a similar decision - although already a couple years ago - I bought the PS3 over a 360 for the following reasons:

1.) Blu-ray player and one of the best DVD upscalers on the market, if you want to watch your old DVDs via HDMI on HDTV. The downside is that it burns a lot of power when used as a DVD/blu-ray player.

2.) Built in Wi-Fi and no need to for cable or additional adapters

3.) PS1 compatibility and the fact that I can still play some classics on it

4.) I found the design generally more appealing, and back then with the "first gen PS3s" the PS3 was a lot sleeker than the 360.

5.) I had hopes for lots of Square Enix (Final Fantasy) and whatnot exclusives, which never really materialized. So far, the one deal where I'm so glad I picked PS3 was Demon's Souls. Heck, there's even stuff from SE which is exclusive to 360/PC nowadays (i.e. Last Remnant)

6.) And I really did this for kicks, I installed Linux on it and had a blast tinkering around, as it was a mainstream console hardware supporting open source software. Sadly, if you buy the PS3 Slim nowadays, this option is not available anymore. So I felt like I was totally leet  DRILLING AND MANLINESS

P.S. Like said, I don't own a 360, so take my comments with a grain of salt! Nowadays, it mostly comes down to preference.

P.P.S. You might want to look at the game library and the game prices and factor that into the decision. In Europe 360 games tend to be generally cheaper than PS3. And available earlier for bargain prices.
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Reply #2 on: November 07, 2009, 05:44:30 AM

PS3 isn't slower. Some of the earlier ports/cross platform titles are, but even then, it's miniscule.

XBox might have a leg up with shooters, depending on how you define "shooter". In my definition (I'll get to it in a sec), I'd say it's about equal.

First off, most of the popular stuff is cross platform (Call of Duty, etc).

Exclusivity wise, it's a matter of pitting titles like Halo and Resistance/Killzone against each other.. To each their own. A lot of people are attracted to Halo. To get with my definition of shooter though, I'd broaden it out to titles like Gears of War on the Xbox, and on the PS3, Metal Gear and Uncharted. Gears of War is great, but PS3 wins. Their titles are fucking epic. Epic > Great.

RPG wise, both have the big American titles like Fallout 3 and Dragon Age, but JRPG wise, some of the Xbox titles get a bad rap.. While the PS3 is solid. Demon's Souls is a must play, while SRPG titles like Valkyria Chronicles are as well. Not to mention that the system will get some interesting JRPG titles down the line as well.

PS3 probably has a leg up in categories your kids (and even yourself) would like. Such as Little Big Planet and Ratchet and Clank.

Sports/Racing/Fighting titles are about equal.

As you mentioned, it's a Blu-Ray player. Coupling that with it's growing edge on games, you can't really go wrong with the PS3.
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Reply #3 on: November 07, 2009, 06:07:31 AM

0) If you're a movie buff, get a PS3.  Blu-ray is pretty awesome if you've got a nice HDTV and it'll be one of the best players on the market for some time to come.

1) Games.  It's mostly a shooter (360) vs. third-person-action (PS3) split on exclusives.  If you play shooters and western RPGs on the PC like I do, there's no 360 exclusives to write home about.

2) Friends.  The 360 has a good deal more worthless bullet-points, but its online setup is still better than the PS3's.  If any of your friends/co-workers/whatever have next-gen consoles, that's a lot more important than a Party System or Home.

Both double well as set-top boxes to get your media on your TV and both have almost all the big titles.  If the current PS3s still had PS2 guts, I'd recommend it in a heartbeat, just on the last batch of great JRPGs like FF12 and Persona 4.

On Hard Drives: The PS3 is cool about letting you upgrade the drive and storage is cheap.  On the 360 side, if you intend on buying a lot of games (versus GameFly or trade-in cycles) you'll want a 60GB+ drive.  Installing games on the 360 does help on loading times, but more importantly keeps the noise down.  I don't know what they're shipping units with, but my old 20GB drive barely cut it with a couple installed games + DLC.  (The 120GB drive is overpriced and overkill though.)
« Last Edit: November 07, 2009, 06:12:27 AM by caladein »

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Reply #4 on: November 07, 2009, 06:21:45 AM

I have both, though I still favour the 360. If the PS3 had been cheaper initially, I probably would have gotten it instead, but yeah, I actually prefer the 360 these days.

My preferences, though, are biased by 2 years of ownership when compared to 2 months of PS3 ownership. Stray is basically a PS3 fan, though I'm not sure he plays games anymore anyway? He hasn't owned both to my knowledge.

More usefully, the PS3 has a better setup for Hard drive stuff - just get the cheapest one and upgrade it yourself with a notebook HDD - it's user-changable.
360 has the better online experience, but you pay for it while the PS3's online gaming is free.
Both have overprices accessories/extra controllers etc. Aside from the 360's HDD being a massive ripoff, the PS3's stuff is more expensive.
Backwards compat goes to the 360. It's not great, but it's a hell of a lot better than nothing. Original XBox games look pretty good upscaled.
PS3 is a Blu-Ray player, while the 360 ..isn't.
If wireless matters to you, then again the PS3 wins. Both can be networked with ethernet without any bullshit, unlike the Wii.
The 360's Achievement system is much better than the PS3's WTF? Trophy system, but both are essentially just a bit of a wank.
Controllers are an either/or. I used and liked the various PS controllers from the initial PS1 machines for years, but I now prefer the 360 controller. Slightly. But it hardly matters a bit. Both are quite good.


Software-wise, as Stray says, most of the biggest stuff is cross-platform. Most are same-priced, though not all - I find that the 360 stuff is slightly cheaper overall, though I can't figure out why.
As for what you and (especially) your kids would like more - that's gonna be your call.
Both have most of the big American RPGs as well as some RPG exclusives. Mass Effect series is 360 exclusive. Demons Souls is PS3. Very different games though, and ignore the f13 Demons Souls hype. 360 has the GTA4 extras, which is apparently more fun than GTA4 itself.
Really though - check out the lists of exclusive titles, see which ones interest you and then ask about the specific games. I find that most of the "big" exclusives on either side hold no interest for me. Ignore the clearly partisan stuff like "growing edge on games" and "leg up in categories you'd like" stuff and decide for yourself.

Hardware-wise, and even with me having a personal preference for the 360, I'd say the PS3 is the better choice now that the price has dropped, simply because of Blu-Ray inclusion and the user-upgradable HDD. Despite Live being better than PS3's online system, it being free also gives that edge to the PS3.

Having said all that, the games are what matter. Check out the exclusives on both sides, ask about those games, and take your pick based on that. You can't go wrong with either of them really.

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Reply #5 on: November 07, 2009, 06:39:20 AM

3.) PS1 compatibility and the fact that I can still play some classics on it

I figure he was buying a slim, so I thought this, like the ability to install linux, is not an option because there's no BC at all on the slims.

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Reply #6 on: November 07, 2009, 06:51:22 AM

I have both, though I still favour the 360. If the PS3 had been cheaper initially, I probably would have gotten it instead, but yeah, I actually prefer the 360 these days.

My preferences, though, are biased by 2 years of ownership when compared to 2 months of PS3 ownership. Stray is basically a PS3 fan, though I'm not sure he plays games anymore anyway? He hasn't owned both to my knowledge.

More usefully, the PS3 has a better setup for Hard drive stuff - just get the cheapest one and upgrade it yourself with a notebook HDD - it's user-changable.
360 has the better online experience, but you pay for it while the PS3's online gaming is free.
Both have overprices accessories/extra controllers etc. Aside from the 360's HDD being a massive ripoff, the PS3's stuff is more expensive.
Backwards compat goes to the 360. It's not great, but it's a hell of a lot better than nothing. Original XBox games look pretty good upscaled.
PS3 is a Blu-Ray player, while the 360 ..isn't.
If wireless matters to you, then again the PS3 wins. Both can be networked with ethernet without any bullshit, unlike the Wii.
The 360's Achievement system is much better than the PS3's WTF? Trophy system, but both are essentially just a bit of a wank.
Controllers are an either/or. I used and liked the various PS controllers from the initial PS1 machines for years, but I now prefer the 360 controller. Slightly. But it hardly matters a bit. Both are quite good.


Software-wise, as Stray says, most of the biggest stuff is cross-platform. Most are same-priced, though not all - I find that the 360 stuff is slightly cheaper overall, though I can't figure out why.
As for what you and (especially) your kids would like more - that's gonna be your call.
Both have most of the big American RPGs as well as some RPG exclusives. Mass Effect series is 360 exclusive. Demons Souls is PS3. Very different games though, and ignore the f13 Demons Souls hype. 360 has the GTA4 extras, which is apparently more fun than GTA4 itself.
Really though - check out the lists of exclusive titles, see which ones interest you and then ask about the specific games. I find that most of the "big" exclusives on either side hold no interest for me. Ignore the clearly partisan stuff like "growing edge on games" and "leg up in categories you'd like" stuff and decide for yourself.

Hardware-wise, and even with me having a personal preference for the 360, I'd say the PS3 is the better choice now that the price has dropped, simply because of Blu-Ray inclusion and the user-upgradable HDD. Despite Live being better than PS3's online system, it being free also gives that edge to the PS3.

Having said all that, the games are what matter. Check out the exclusives on both sides, ask about those games, and take your pick based on that. You can't go wrong with either of them really.


I may be a PS3 fan, but I'm just talking about games above. I'm not even getting into many "console" features. Really, I'm not getting to any of them. Except one he mentioned - Blu-Ray. You're the one getting all fanboy and shit trying to take indirect "jabs" in your advice to him. "ignore this", "ignore that".. Just tell him what you think. Leave me out of it.

There is no f13 demon's souls hype. It's a well reviewed game in general (an 89 on metacritic, just to mention). I myself actually wasn't into it at first, but it's definitely good. Not sure why it has to be "ignored". Huh Wtf?

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Reply #7 on: November 07, 2009, 07:13:05 AM

3.) PS1 compatibility and the fact that I can still play some classics on it

I figure he was buying a slim, so I thought this, like the ability to install linux, is not an option because there's no BC at all on the slims.

All PS3s can do PS1 BC since it's all through emulation.  The PS2 stuff's gone though.

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Reply #8 on: November 07, 2009, 08:17:03 AM

PS3, for bluray alone, XBL is the only thing better about the 360 but so what.  Its also, judging only from SFIV filled with all the shiteating halo/madden bro fuckwads.  There are already pretty much better games on ps3 and that gap will continue to widen, if you play rpgs if you only play certain types of games you really should have included that in the OP.

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Reply #9 on: November 07, 2009, 08:45:47 AM

When I was faced with a similar decision, a number of factors came into play. Being that half of the reason to buying a console was to replace my then-broken DVD player, the PS3 won with the option of the blu-ray drive. Beyond that though, I was concerned regarding the frequency of RROD on the 360. From what I've gathered, the 360 has a failure rate of 100% over time. If you intend to use the device, it is a when, not if, the unit will break.

Talking with a few avid 360 friends, a number of them actually have purchased 2 360s. When one dies, they crack the other one out while the former 360 is sent away. They use that one until it itself breaks...rinse, wash and repeat. I was not looking forward to that prospect and dramatically increasing the TCO.

I believe Sony when they say the device will have a 10 year lifecycle (or thereabouts). The PS2 just recently celebrated its 9th birthday, and although I don't think the PS3 will remain completely relevant after 9 years, I do believe its lifespan will be greater than that of the 360. When we see games like Uncharted 2 and Naughty Dog mentions they've just started to really use all of the SPE's and how they can now begin looking at even just optimizing their SPE use, we can see the PS3 has a very high ceiling. When we see conversions like Fallout 3, its astonishing what the core PPC processor in the PS3 can pulloff itself without relying on any SPE's. As developers see games like Killzone and Uncharted 2 demonstrate what the system is actually capable of, I believe they will begin tapping into that SPE power, and the system will scale very nicely over time. Where that leaves the 360 I'm not sure, but I believe over time the PS3 will certainly gain the upperhand.

The PS3 makes a very capable media player as well. When we miss an episode of TV we wanted to see, its great to download it and stream/load it onto the PS3 for comfortable TV viewing. I do believe the 360 has this as well, although I don't know what the format support looks like - and the native storage capacity of the new PS3 obviously can't be beat. PS3 Media Server is a must-have for any PS3 owner. With those two in hand, the PS3 effectively is a Popcorn Hour replacement device. I'd like to see more native support for other formats on it (MKV, ISO) and perhaps a Samba server so we can push files, but we'll see.

Lifespan and TCO played a big role in my decision making, and seeing how fast MS dropped the original XBox once the 360 came out gave me concerns. The recession has definitely changed the plans for everyone involved, but every day I grow more and more satisfied with my decision to get the PS3.

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Reply #10 on: November 07, 2009, 09:17:03 AM

I have had a 360 from the get go and love it.  Had two RRoD's though.  I am also going to pick up a PS3 sometime this year but mainly due to wanting a blu-ray player for my new TV to go with.  New Trek movie out Nov 17 will be awesome in blu ray.

I am guessing the PS3 will slowly grow in popularity over the 360, probably overtaking it.  By that time I think the new XBox will arrive (the 720?) and the circle will begin again.

So my advice is to buy a PS3.  The price has come down finally and they have wireless internet, blu-ray player, better reliability, etc.  Unless they don't get ME2, in which case get a 360.
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Reply #11 on: November 07, 2009, 10:05:02 AM

Demon's Souls is all you really need to make your decision.  It is phenomenal.
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Reply #12 on: November 07, 2009, 10:50:21 AM

About PS3 models - and since it has been mentioned. Here in Europe there are still plenty of the 80GB "fat" models available, and given that you can still put Linux on them and they look a lot less "cheap" than the slim, I'd take one of those if the option is available. I've read plenty of  reviews concerning how "energy efficient" the Slim model is, and at our current prices here, at 2 hours gaming a day, you save 4$ per year compared to the 60GB launch model. That is pretty irrelevant.
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Reply #13 on: November 07, 2009, 11:22:38 AM

OK, so the last gaming console I ever owned was made by Atari. I got a Wii for my kids a couple of years ago, but it lives at their mother's house.

So then I assume you're primarily a PC gamer, and probably have at least a somewhat decent PC.  If that's the case, you can already play some of the 360's better exclusives like Mass Effect and Left 4 Dead.  You miss out on Fable 2, the Gears of War Games, the Halo stuff, Crackdown 1 (and eventually 2), a couple of GT4 expansion packs, possibly Alan Wake if it doesn't make it to PC, and the first Dead Rising game, but that's about it.
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Reply #14 on: November 07, 2009, 11:25:53 AM

I think it's the right time to get a PS3, which is going to get the best stuff in the long run. For now, Demon's Souls is THE tiebreaker. If you ignore that you should ignore videogames altogether.

And Gran Turismo 5 is coming out in 2010. Just saying.

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Reply #15 on: November 07, 2009, 05:59:16 PM

I may be a PS3 fan, but I'm just talking about games above. I'm not even getting into many "console" features. Really, I'm not getting to any of them. Except one he mentioned - Blu-Ray. You're the one getting all fanboy and shit trying to take indirect "jabs" in your advice to him. "ignore this", "ignore that".. Just tell him what you think. Leave me out of it.

There is no f13 demon's souls hype. It's a well reviewed game in general (an 89 on metacritic, just to mention). I myself actually wasn't into it at first, but it's definitely good. Not sure why it has to be "ignored". Huh Wtf?

Here's some fanboi bits for you:

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Their titles are fucking epic. Epic > Great.

RPG wise, both have the big American titles like Fallout 3 and Dragon Age, but JRPG wise, some of the Xbox titles get a bad rap.. While the PS3 is solid. Demon's Souls is a must play, while SRPG titles like Valkyria Chronicles are as well. Not to mention that the system will get some interesting JRPG titles down the line as well.

PS3 probably has a leg up in categories your kids (and even yourself) would like. Such as Little Big Planet and Ratchet and Clank.

Ignore the hype on DS = ignore the hype on Halo/Mario/etc as well. To be fair, you're not the only one overhyping it, and far from the worst.

Note I also said the PS3 was probably the better one to go for, hardware-wise. Just depends which software exclusives appeal more to him, so the best course is to check those out and ask specific questions. In the end it's just a box to play games on though, so either will do him well.

Also - L4D is a 360 exclusive? WTF is up with that?

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Reply #16 on: November 07, 2009, 06:10:37 PM

Thank you all for the excellent responses. I decided on the PS3. The funny thing was, when I got to Wal-Mart they had a special on for Xbox 360 Arcade for $199 and you got a $100 gift card with it. I was very tempted to buy both, but went with the PS3.

I got Dragon Age (great fun!), FIFA 10 (unopened as of yet), and Little Big Planet (kids love it so far...pink skin!!). Demon Souls will be next.

Also, my girlfriend is a hardcore zombie fan. What title would y'all recommend for zombie killing fun for PS3? I'll probably get Bioshock as it rocked on the PC and I think she would dig it. She has never played console games but has an open mind. Anything that is scary and bloody she will enjoy methinks.
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Reply #17 on: November 07, 2009, 06:31:43 PM

It's not zombies, but Deadspace can be a little bit scary, and it is certainly bloody.
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Reply #18 on: November 07, 2009, 11:55:20 PM

I'm not sure. The 360 seems to be the Zombie box with L4D and Dead Rising. Not sure if L4D2 is going to be an exclusive, but it appears that way at present.

Honestly, with that deal at Wal-Mart, I'd go back and get the 360 as well. Use the card to pick up those two games, and you'll be set.  awesome, for real

Oh, Resident Evil 5 is crossplatform. Also includes co-op. I've also heard good (scary) things about Dead Space.

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Reply #19 on: November 08, 2009, 12:10:52 AM

His only choice was PS3 as far as I can see.

Dead Space was my GOTY last year. Played it on PS3 and PC.

The only reasons to get a 360 anymore are long past unless you have a serious love affair with gaming over Live. The only upcoming meaningful "exclusive" for the foreseeable future is Alan Wake, but that'll be on PC. Beyond that, Microsoft has half the number of first party studios they had a few years back, even those Project Gotham guys and Bungie abandoned them - though after the closures of BHG and Ensemble, I can't blame them. What's left amounts to Molyneux's Wank Factory, Dyack's Jizz Laboratory, and some other European studio I'm sure I'm forgetting. Oh, and Mistwalker and the Zoo Tycoon guys, but really, if Sakaguchi can't even do Lost Odyssey right, what difference does it make?

This generation is effectively over for the 360 unless you have high, misplaced hopes for the Natal.

Also, the hardware is shit but that's almost too easy to poke fun at.

Edit: For the record, on the PS3 - not counting this year, which was amazing for it - you have, in the first half of 2010: Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo 5, God of War 3 (as well as God of War collection in like a week or so), Mod Nation Racers, MAG, Little Big Planet 2 (which will hopefully fix that floaty jump crap), David Jaffe's new game (likely Twisted Metal - hurrah!), The Last Guardian, 3D Dot Heroes (Pixel Heroes, or whatever they're calling it here, it has been confirmed), a probably sequel to Demon's Souls, whatever Naughty Dog is halfway done with, and most likely - at least - two new games from first party studios. Frankly, I don't even know how one would be a 360 fan post 2009.
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Reply #20 on: November 08, 2009, 01:06:32 AM

Their titles are fucking epic. Epic > Great.

That was in the paragraph I mentioned MGS and Uncharted. It wasn't some general system-wide praise. It's praising games that, fortunately, I get to play on the PS3.


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Reply #21 on: November 08, 2009, 01:09:21 AM

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He's not dispassionate, he's just crazy, as evidenced by his post in "What I'm playing" or whatever.
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Reply #22 on: November 08, 2009, 01:33:43 AM

I was in the same position about a year ago and went with the PS3 for the aforementioned reasons - mainly the BluRay player and the PS3 exclusives looked more like the kind of games I wanted to play.

MGS4 & Demon's Souls were two of the best gaming experiences I've ever had, no question. Also some of the PSN games are surprisingly good - Warhawk, for example, is excellent.

I have heard others say that the 360 is better for media streaming but there's several streaming apps for the PS3 (such as the Java PS3 Media Server) that help, although it's still not perfect and can be slow with high-bitrate HD files for instance.

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Reply #23 on: November 08, 2009, 04:54:31 AM

The 360 is nice if you have a Windows PC with Media Center (7 or most versions of Vista) since it just lets you run a Media Center Extender.  It's a bit clunky to get set up if you don't use WMP to manage your media but it's quite nice.  The Zune stuff sucked the last time I tried it, but I don't know if 4.0 is any better on the PC side (the 360 side was straightforward enough).

Both the 360 and PS3 can use TVersity (or PlayOn, which I haven't used) which are quite powerful for getting your media on the screen.  Handling subtitles and the like is a headache unlike no other, to the point that I just picked up a combined VGA/Audio cable off of monoprice and ran it to my TV's PC in.

Clearly that solution doesn't work for everyone, and I still sometimes fire up the 360 if I want to just lie down and use the controller for MCE/Netflix/Last.fm.

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Reply #24 on: November 08, 2009, 12:17:31 PM

Unless you need a Blu-Ray player (as I do), I don't see any reason to choose a PS3 over a 360.

360:
Wider selection of games
More polished and versatile online capability
Better game graphics/performance (comparing ports)
Still cheaper.

PS3:
Blu-Ray
No RRoDs
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Reply #25 on: November 08, 2009, 12:23:10 PM

Unless you need a Blu-Ray player (as I do), I don't see any reason to choose a PS3 over a 360.

360:
Wider selection of games
More polished and versatile online capability
Better game graphics/performance (comparing ports)
Still cheaper.

PS3:
Blu-Ray
No RRoDs

I think you need to mention the fact that you need to spend $70 on a wireless adapter and $50 a year on Xbox Live. While not a huge issue, it does factor in.
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Reply #26 on: November 08, 2009, 12:39:09 PM

You may or may not need the wireless adapter. My PS3 is hooked up through its RJ45 port, for example.
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Reply #27 on: November 09, 2009, 02:40:18 AM

Their titles are fucking epic. Epic > Great.
That was in the paragraph I mentioned MGS and Uncharted. It wasn't some general system-wide praise. It's praising games that, fortunately, I get to play on the PS3.

OK I misread your intent. No problem.


As far as Zombie games go, there's also Zombie Apocalypse as a PSN/XBLA download title. It's more of a Smash TV thing, I havent played or seen it myself though. It's gotten ok but not awesome reviews.


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Reply #28 on: November 09, 2009, 08:29:05 AM

Exclusives that I absolutely wouldn't want to miss on the 360 (that didn't make it to the PC or PS3):

Dead Rising

Same deal,  but for the PS3:

Metal Gear Solid 4
Demon's Souls
Uncharted
Valkyria Chronicles

Fable 2 is almost a consideration. It's fun but instantly forgettable once you put it down.  Same deal goes for Disgaea 3 for the PS3.. hardly what I wanted from the franchise, but a good game nonetheless.  Forza is a great title also for the 360, but it just didn't have much legs for me.  I left that one woefully incomplete.

If you like crappy console shooters and really, god awful  jRPG attempts, the 360 comes out a bit better there.  Live has better offerings, IMO, than PSN, but I've only bought one Arcade exclusive that I really played (Shadow Complex) extensively. Live also costs money.  PS3 doesn't have much of a console identity, but it has very strong exclusvies.  God of War 3 will probably join that list of must play exclusives soon. 

I don't cross platform much of a selling point for either.  I own both so it's never an issue, but I haven't had to make a significant decision one way or the other. I played skate 2 on the 360 over the PS3 because I thought the 360 controller worked better for it having played the previous one on the xbrick.

The thing for me is the hardware.  The 360 sounds like a goddamn jet engine, while the PS3 is whisper quiet.  The PS3 plays Bluray, the 360 does not. I'm afraid to turn the goddamn 360 on for fear of redring death.  And the PS3 came with built in wireless, while Microsoft seems intent on charging you $70-$100 for this necessary (for me) feature for every console.

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Reply #29 on: November 09, 2009, 10:20:00 AM

Clearly that solution doesn't work for everyone, and I still sometimes fire up the 360 if I want to just lie down and use the controller for MCE/Netflix/Last.fm.

Netflix now available on PS3, BTW. Although you do have to swap in a disc.
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Reply #30 on: November 09, 2009, 10:49:21 AM

The 360 sounds like a goddamn jet engine, while the PS3 is whisper quiet.

The noise difference was very surprising to me.  The 360 is much louder and gets intolerable if it's not running a game from the hard drive.  The other surprising non-game difference is how much better it feels to navigate menus with the PS3's XMB.
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Reply #31 on: November 09, 2009, 11:32:49 AM

As someone who was rabidly anti-PS3 when it came out, my suggestion is the PS3. I started thinking on this recently - if I had an HDTV and the money to buy a PS3 or a 360, which would I buy? I tried to hard to think of a game that I would want the 360 for these days that I couldn't get on the PS3. I couldn't think of one. Gears of War? Meh, that'd be about the only one. With the Blu-Ray on the PS3, and the huge price drops they've made since release, I still can't think of a good reason to choose a 360 over a PS3.

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Reply #32 on: November 09, 2009, 12:11:48 PM

If I could use the 360 controller on the PS3, I'd be very happy.

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Reply #33 on: November 09, 2009, 12:23:17 PM

Mass Effect 1 and Left 4 Dead (if you wanted to play them on consoles at least) were 360-only, no?

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Reply #34 on: November 09, 2009, 12:54:52 PM

If I could use the 360 controller on the PS3, I'd be very happy.



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