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DraconianOne
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Reply #3780 on: November 02, 2010, 05:07:50 AM

So, aside from the absolute and utter awesomeness that the chance to run around the city wedged between a set of poster boards ranting insane and/or inane shit is, this pre-Cataclysm stuff is pretty "meh" compared to ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE, which is still probably the most fun I've ever had playing this game.

Puts me in mind of the Necropolis attacks but yes, other than that, it's nowhere near as fun as being a zombie.

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Reply #3781 on: November 02, 2010, 05:24:51 AM

It's supposed to be ramping up.  We'll see.
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Reply #3782 on: November 02, 2010, 06:21:43 AM

Yep, there's 4 phases, this is the first one.

The next one is supposed to include more quests and loretastic shit until it culminates in full on city assaults by elementals and optional bosses.

Although, I'm confused as to the value of optional bosses if they just drop current items and you are at the raid points cap.

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Reply #3783 on: November 02, 2010, 10:12:24 AM

Although, I'm confused as to the value of optional bosses
They have hit points and those hit points can be reduced.
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Reply #3784 on: November 02, 2010, 11:26:40 AM

Also they're all nostalgia bosses - giant Gahzrilla, etc., will be fun to go spank them once or twice each I think.

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Reply #3785 on: November 02, 2010, 11:37:41 AM

Also they're all nostalgia bosses - giant Gahzrilla, etc., will be fun to go spank them once or twice each I think.

Meh, that could be fun then. I would love to beat up on a giant Hogger, personally.

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Reply #3786 on: November 02, 2010, 01:42:47 PM

Hogger is reserved for a revamped Cataclysm instance. :ssh:

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Reply #3787 on: November 02, 2010, 01:53:14 PM

Hogger is reserved for a revamped Cataclysm instance. :ssh:

The idea of an Onyxia-style giant Hogger raid makes me  DRILLING AND MANLINESS

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Reply #3788 on: November 02, 2010, 10:43:35 PM

I've logged maybe five hours yesterday and today.  While the quest text states something along the lines of "By now you've seen the elementals attacking our cities and villages..." I have yet to actually see one.  In any zone.  There's just groups of people hovering over spawn points, but I have yet to see anything.  It's fairly underwhelming.
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Reply #3789 on: November 02, 2010, 11:53:26 PM

Supposedly the frequency is going to ramp up as the event goes on.

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Reply #3790 on: November 03, 2010, 12:15:56 AM

So, aside from the absolute and utter awesomeness that the chance to run around the city wedged between a set of poster boards ranting insane and/or inane shit is, this pre-Cataclysm stuff is pretty "meh" compared to ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE, which is still probably the most fun I've ever had playing this game.

Puts me in mind of the Necropolis attacks but yes, other than that, it's nowhere near as fun as being a zombie.

Sure... Being a zombie... that was cool too, I guess. Ohhhhh, I see.
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Reply #3791 on: November 03, 2010, 06:04:12 AM

Sure... Being a zombie... that was cool too, I guess. Ohhhhh, I see.
Sure it was.  You could go and grief people because it was part of the game!  awesome, for real
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Reply #3792 on: November 04, 2010, 04:13:28 AM

I definitely prefered zapping zombies with my anti-zombie shit as my paladin to being a zombie.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #3793 on: November 04, 2010, 07:00:24 AM

I liked being a zombie.  awesome, for real

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Reply #3794 on: November 04, 2010, 08:50:28 AM

I definitely prefered zapping zombies with my anti-zombie shit as my paladin to being a zombie.  Oh ho ho ho. Reallllly?

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Reply #3795 on: November 04, 2010, 02:56:17 PM

Tell him something he doesn't know!  DRILLING AND MANLINESS

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Reply #3796 on: November 04, 2010, 03:00:22 PM

Tell him something he doesn't know!  DRILLING AND MANLINESS

His wife is crazy?

Oh wait...something he doesn't know.

You got me there.

p.s. go back to the bunny, I can't figure out who is posting anymore.

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Reply #3797 on: November 04, 2010, 03:00:45 PM

go back to the bunny, I can't figure out who is posting anymore.

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Reply #3798 on: November 04, 2010, 03:58:03 PM

Avatars are for the weak.
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Reply #3799 on: November 04, 2010, 04:00:27 PM

Halloween is over, so the eye-less, terrifying monkey people are less appropriate anyway.

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Reply #3800 on: November 04, 2010, 04:57:26 PM

Hooray!

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Reply #3801 on: November 04, 2010, 04:58:18 PM

So is this elemental hoo-ha worth a damn? I'm debating about logging in again if it's remotely interesting. If not, meh.

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Reply #3802 on: November 04, 2010, 05:14:07 PM

I find it interesting but I am a lore nut.  Don't know if I'd recommend you drop $15 just to do it though.
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Reply #3803 on: November 04, 2010, 06:10:45 PM

So is this elemental hoo-ha worth a damn? I'm debating about logging in again if it's remotely interesting. If not, meh.

Meh.

There's only like 15 minutes of entertainment there with the quests so far.
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Reply #3804 on: November 04, 2010, 06:59:20 PM

There's a brief quest chain, and an achievement to be had if you kill one of each type of elemental spawning in the world. So far I've seen one pack of elementals out in STV, which despawned right as I rode up to it.

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Reply #3805 on: November 04, 2010, 08:19:44 PM

I'm not entirely sure what is happening, but the whole despawning thing on the rifts is everywhere.  I've seen maybe 10 of these rifts in the distance, but as I get up close to them they disappear.  I suspect they're using phasing for them, and that phasing is broken. 
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Reply #3806 on: November 04, 2010, 09:58:05 PM

I did the quest chain, it was ok as far as shallow wow storyline stuff goes. I liked the cultist dialogue.

I almost saw a rift this morning. A guildmate called it out, but by the time I got there, it was gone. Yay.


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Reply #3807 on: November 05, 2010, 01:34:58 AM

The zombie event started slow, too.

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Reply #3808 on: November 05, 2010, 03:09:39 AM

I'm not entirely sure what is happening, but the whole despawning thing on the rifts is everywhere.  I've seen maybe 10 of these rifts in the distance, but as I get up close to them they disappear.  I suspect they're using phasing for them, and that phasing is broken. 

Ah, yes. This has happened to me a couple of times in Netherstorm. Thought I was just late to the party. After getting the achievement, I certainly won't be bothering with the daily though. P.I.T.A.

As for the quest chain, the cash/XP is fairly decent for 15-20 minutes running around Org. 

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Reply #3809 on: November 05, 2010, 05:06:35 AM

I dont think the elementals despawning is a "phazing" issue, unless maybe they are coded to prevent players who are too high a level from spotting them.

I successfullly killed a group of the earth ones on my 80 druid in Azshara, but had the same "they fade out as you approach" thing happen to me when i spotted a bunch of fire ones in Winterspring 10 minutes later.

I think it is probably more along the lines of there being a residual "despawn" effect if they are not engaged within a certain amount of time from initial spawn, and the game world does not update it untill a player actually gets close enough for it to matter, so what you are seeing is a delayed despawn occuring  (sort of the same way that you occasionally see mobs that have been standing there for what is probably quite a while cast buffs on themselves like frost shields and the like whenever you ride into range).

As to if the event is worth it, I would say not right now.  Give it a few more weeks (or maybe a month) or so to ramp up a bit, and eventually it gets into full on Capital City attacks by level 80 elementals where you need to run around and prep for the attack and then help fight it off.

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Reply #3810 on: November 05, 2010, 06:01:36 AM

Give it a few more weeks (or maybe a month) or so to ramp up a bit

A month from now the expansion is actually here  awesome, for real

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Reply #3811 on: November 05, 2010, 10:49:13 AM

I think it is phasing. There are occasional bugs you'll notice with phased content when you're looking into a phased area from outside. You can see this happen sometimes with the little ice shard things that you collect for frost giant faction in Storm Peaks - you can see one, fly up to it (crossing a phasing zone in the process) and it fades out. I think this is essentially the same thing; when you're seeing them when they're not really 'up' you happen to be sitting in a spot where the other phase is incorrectly visible.

I think they changed the Halloween stuff to use phasing as well because I found a spot in Auberdine where I could stand and all the Halloween decorations would appear even though the event was over.

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Reply #3812 on: November 05, 2010, 10:57:20 AM

Pretty sure the town decorations for all the seasonal events are not "phazed" in the normal sense, but are more of a trick with the world Meshes or something, and swapping them around is akin to the same mechanic used when changing gear on your character.

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Reply #3813 on: November 07, 2010, 10:02:28 AM

85 DK solos Naxx
http://warcraftmovies.com/movieview.php?id=166999

I'm seeing some real big numbers here.  This expansion looks to be stat inflation city.
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Reply #3814 on: November 07, 2010, 10:14:52 AM

When the green weapons are better than the best of the best raiding gear out there, you know it's inflation city.

Heroic raiding epic 2Hers are 703.6 DPS in the Cataclysm raiding game. The Shadowmourne legendary is 347.8 DPS  Ohhhhh, I see.

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