Cataclysm

[Sjofn]

God, I turn off my helms SO HARD 99% of the time. I want to see my pretty, pretty face and my pretty, pretty hair. I wouldn't turn off my shoulders unless they were well and truly hideous, though. Like the Wrath shoulders.


EDIT: I notice boots though. And sometimes gloves. And pants if they're hilariously ugly or mysteriously MISSING. >< Tabards make chest pieces pretty much irrelevant though.

[Malakili]

I think the pants in WoW look pretty terrible about 90% of the time.  Dresses/robes on the other hand generally look great.

[Sjofn]

Depends on the class, I find. Caster-types usually have HILARIOUS pants. Plate-wearers, once they're out of the thong danger zone, usually have perfectly normal pants.

[WindupAtheist]

PVP ret pallies don't usually get stuck with plate skirts, but if they do at some point, I will simply refuse to wear them even if it means I'm gimped.

[Lantyssa]

Shoulders also hold an easy vendor enchant.  Good reasons all around to buy them.

My DK only uses the PvP shoulders though.  The T9 set is hideous.  (T10 isn't that bad if I recall, but the chances of me getting enough frost badges now is low.)  I liked a lot of the leveling shoulders, too.  Once you start getting the high-end gear though they're all crap as far as my sensibilities go.

[AutomaticZen]

God, I turn off my helms SO HARD 99% of the time. I want to see my pretty, pretty face and my pretty, pretty hair. I wouldn't turn off my shoulders unless they were well and truly hideous, though. Like the Wrath shoulders.

Same.  I love my beautiful Blood Elf hair.  As I tank for my guild, its beauty lights the way.

[Fordel]

The two "armors" bellow are the same base mesh, nothing about the profile changes, with exception of the shoulder blades and helm (Major reason shoulder blades are the most profile breaking and extravagant visual upgrades) In fact, its the same mesh from when you made your player, there is not layering on the base body, its all about the shoulder blades and helms to break the silhouette/profile. Its also why all the forearms are so beefy in wow, they will be gauntlets later in life. Somewhere along its life span, they have been adding different versions of forearms and such for reasons of sleeves and such, but i think thats a recent addition, and is most likely with in the player model file as well. I don't know, I have never had the opportunity to look at the files.

I don't know if I understood your jargon correctly, but if I did, then yes, everything but the the Shoulders and Helm are just part of the Player Model with various parts being turned on and off as each item is equipped. The Gauntlet and Boot art are not separate. They've also had the gauntlet and boot variation in since release, open flared sleeves, bulky gloves, folded gloves etc.

[Sjofn]

God, I turn off my helms SO HARD 99% of the time. I want to see my pretty, pretty face and my pretty, pretty hair. I wouldn't turn off my shoulders unless they were well and truly hideous, though. Like the Wrath shoulders.

Same.  I love my beautiful Blood Elf hair.  As I tank for my guild, its beauty lights the way.

In Cataclysm, I fully intend to have a beautiful boy blood elf warrior for this exact reason. Follow my beacon, everyone!


EDIT: Also, Lantyssa, tier nine is a LONG FUCKING WAY from "hideous." Take another look at the Wrath set (warrior T2, it's in Bloodworth's spoiler). That is hideous. Tier nine is, at worst, guilty of "meh."

[lesion]

Now I'm tempted to re-sub and get the BC Wrath set for my DK. Damn you all!

[JWIV]

God, I turn off my helms SO HARD 99% of the time. I want to see my pretty, pretty face and my pretty, pretty hair. I wouldn't turn off my shoulders unless they were well and truly hideous, though. Like the Wrath shoulders.

Same.  I love my beautiful Blood Elf hair.  As I tank for my guild, its beauty lights the way.

In Cataclysm, I fully intend to have a beautiful boy blood elf warrior for this exact reason. Follow my beacon, everyone!


EDIT: Also, Lantyssa, tier nine is a LONG FUCKING WAY from "hideous." Take another look at the Wrath set (warrior T2, it's in Bloodworth's spoiler). That is hideous. Tier nine is, at worst, guilty of "meh."

I'm fairly sure that some point soon my wife is going to pay the 25 bucks to change her undead Warlock into a Blood Elf so that she can be pretty.

[Simond]

Male goblin and male worgen dances are in now, btw.

[Lantyssa]

EDIT: Also, Lantyssa, tier nine is a LONG FUCKING WAY from "hideous." Take another look at the Wrath set (warrior T2, it's in Bloodworth's spoiler). That is hideous. Tier nine is, at worst, guilty of "meh."

I'm not comparing it to prior sets since I have no idea what those look like.  On it's own, the T9 helm and shoulders look terrible.  There reaches a point where degree of eye-gouging doesn't matter, I still don't want to wear it.

[Simond]

Tier 9 looks perfectly fine.








As long as you're Horde, natch.

[SurfD]

Eh, I personally prefer the Alliance T9 Leather to the Horde version. 

[Paelos]

EDIT: Also, Lantyssa, tier nine is a LONG FUCKING WAY from "hideous." Take another look at the Wrath set (warrior T2, it's in Bloodworth's spoiler). That is hideous. Tier nine is, at worst, guilty of "meh."

I'm not comparing it to prior sets since I have no idea what those look like.  On it's own, the T9 helm and shoulders look terrible.  There reaches a point where degree of eye-gouging doesn't matter, I still don't want to wear it.

I think you're probably in the minority then on the current armor asthetic. T9 was considered to be uninspiredly bland, but never horrible.

[Shrike]

T9 plate isn't so bad in and of itself. The real issue with it is that's it's ALL T9 plate for everyone. Kinda bland that way. Both my draenei paladin and DK look almost exactly the same, just slightly different trim colors.  The shoulders are the weakest piece, looks-wise, but they don't really bother me that much. T9 mail was worse.

[Ingmar]

T9 plate isn't so bad in and of itself. The real issue with it is that's it's ALL T9 plate for everyone. Kinda bland that way. Both my draenei paladin and DK look almost exactly the same, just slightly different trim colors.  The shoulders are the weakest piece, looks-wise, but they don't really bother me that much. T9 mail was worse.

See, I think Alliance T9 mail is by far the best-looking T9 set. It is one of my favorite sets this expansion.

[Sjofn]

"Tier 9 is boring" I can accept (although I still like T9 fine), but hideous/ugly/unwearable? No. I've had shoulders that have filled me with despair before, the tier 9 ones barely even register on my radar as something I am even wearing.


EDIT: T9 druid leather was my favorite of the T9s, personally. First time I've displayed a helmet in a long, long time.

[sickrubik]

T9 Cloth is my favorite set in awhile. No stupid robot facemasks.

[Lantyssa]

I think y'all are just too used to crappy looking WoW armor.  The three blades on the shoulders?  The matching helm?  Ugly as sin.  I will not wear it.

[Merusk]

I'm with you there.  T9 Alliance plate was ugly as sin.  I was happy to replace it all and threw it away.  T9 leather, though was pretty sweet looking - IF you turned the helmet off.  My elf has cleavage again!

[caladein]

Wow, the boob-window on that Alliance T9 Leather would make Power Girl blush (Wowhead Model Viewer).  Didn't think there was anything recent worse than this Emblem of Frost chestpiece that a few of our Ret Paladins are in.

Bare Midriff + Plate =

[Merusk]

Define "worse"

But yes, the bare-midriff makes me facepalm.  If only because they haven't been using that as a style for plate in so long.  It's ok if the whole ensemble is "zomg plate bikini" but to have the plate-fortress look ruined by one feature is just poor design.

[Lantyssa]

My Druid has the T9 leather.  Thankfully a grey woolly shirt blends perfectly.  What's really scary though is a Druid wearing that leather in Culling of Stratholme.

[Bzalthek]

My god, it's like being stuck in the girl's restroom of a tranny bar. 

[Selby]

I just hated the T7 shoulders for my mage.  Luckily I got rid of those.  The T10 isn't so hideous, and neither was the T9.  My shammy's enhance off-spec has the 251 shoulders from ICC... and they are extremely hideous (they'd smack me in the ears and head as I walked if they were real!).

[raydeen]

Wow, the boob-window on that Alliance T9 Leather would make Power Girl blush (Wowhead Model Viewer).  Didn't think there was anything recent worse than this Emblem of Frost chestpiece that a few of our Ret Paladins are in.

Bare Midriff + Plate =

Thanks for that link. After viewing that helm I've now got the Gatchaman theme stuck in my head.

[Mrbloodworth]

The two "armors" bellow are the same base mesh, nothing about the profile changes, with exception of the shoulder blades and helm (Major reason shoulder blades are the most profile breaking and extravagant visual upgrades) In fact, its the same mesh from when you made your player, there is not layering on the base body, its all about the shoulder blades and helms to break the silhouette/profile. Its also why all the forearms are so beefy in wow, they will be gauntlets later in life. Somewhere along its life span, they have been adding different versions of forearms and such for reasons of sleeves and such, but i think thats a recent addition, and is most likely with in the player model file as well. I don't know, I have never had the opportunity to look at the files.

I don't know if I understood your jargon correctly, but if I did, then yes, everything but the the Shoulders and Helm are just part of the Player Model with various parts being turned on and off as each item is equipped. The Gauntlet and Boot art are not separate. They've also had the gauntlet and boot variation in since release, open flared sleeves, bulky gloves, folded gloves etc.

You understood me.

Anyway, when do you get your first shoulder slot item? (and I don't mean from he AH), that should tell you how weighted they are.

All of you complaining about the Wow lack of customization, now may know why I love LOTRO forethought in this area, its simply liberating.

[Fordel]

The first crappy shoulders (grey/white no stat items) start showing up around level 15 or so. The First shoulders with stats on them, would be the tailored shoulders at 17.


They were definitely a big deal when everyone was leveling up at release 5 years ago. "Woo, finally got shoulders!" Was the same with cloaks that were actually cloaks and not just little bibs you wore on your back.

[Simond]

Ahaha. The Grimtotem are joining the Alliance.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Ahaha. The Grimtotem are joining the Alliance.

The dragonmaw orcs are also joining the horde, something I am none too happy about.

[Simond]

To be fair, there's at least a sliver of justification for that ("Oh fuck Deathwing and his entire fucking Flight just exploded out of the ground due east of Wetlands and our nearerst group of forces are the fucking Apothecaries in Arathi Mts....wait, there's orcs right next door already? And they're experts in dragons? I'm sure Dragon-Queen Rita Repulsa would understand. Eventually."). The Grimtotems are basically sore losers.

[Shrike]

Ahaha. The Grimtotem are joining the Alliance.

Who ordered this? It makes little sense. They're like barking mad. I could see maybe encourging them a little to fuck with the Horde, but join the Alliance? Riiiiiiggghhhht.

My draenei paladin and warrior perpetrated near genocide on these twits in their 30s and 40s. Hell, the warrior still does in her 50s, if she finds herself in Feralas for some reason. We're talking industrial-level job lots here. I forsee trouble.

[Lakov_Sanite]

Ahaha. The Grimtotem are joining the Alliance.

Who ordered this? It makes little sense. They're like barking mad. I could see maybe encourging them a little to fuck with the Horde, but join the Alliance? Riiiiiiggghhhht.

My draenei paladin and warrior perpetrated near genocide on these twits in their 30s and 40s. Hell, the warrior still does in her 50s, if she finds herself in Feralas for some reason. We're talking industrial-level job lots here. I forsee trouble.

Well joining the alliance doesn't make sense but if the rumors about magatha slowly having poisoned cairne then they are probably not going to be welcomed in the horde much longer.  all i can think of is all the grimtotem rp guilds on my server, it'll be funny seeing what happens.

[Ingmar]

"Tentatively working with the Alliance in one zone" != "joining the alliance"