Iron Man 2

[SurfD]

He was Larry King right near the beginning.

Fuck, really?  And here I thought that was the ACTUAL Larry King.

[Cyrrex]

I, too, thought it was the actual Larry King.  I mean, it did look like a fully animated corpse.

[UnSub]

Stan Lee isn't well. Apparently he's having trouble remembering lines, which is why he appears less and less in these films.

[NowhereMan]

But then how will he ever win the Oscar for best cameo actor?
(I am quietly hoping when he dies they award it to him for shits and giggles, and for his family).

[climbjtree]

Finally saw the movie. Pretty badass. RDJ really does a great job as Tony Stark, and I think it would have sucked with any other actor in his place.

Also, I love you Scarlett Johansson.

[SurfD]

But then how will he ever win the Oscar for best cameo actor?
(I am quietly hoping when he dies they award it to him for shits and giggles, and for his family).

Seriously, If he dies, I fully expect him to continue makeing cameos.  I can just picture it:

Some furture spiderman reboot, Peter and Aunt May grieving over Uncle Ben's grave, and in the background, Stan Lee's Tomb Stone.

[Cyrrex]

Also, I love you Scarlett Johansson.

I know!  If you think about it, it's rather amazing that we don't have a Scarlett Johansson thread around here.

[climbjtree]

I thought we did at one point? Or a pseudo thread, anyway. Maybe it was mixed in with Katy Perry?

[stu]

Finally saw the movie. Pretty badass. RDJ really does a great job as Tony Stark, and I think it would have sucked with any other actor in his place.

I read somewhere that Sam Rockwell was considered for the role before RDJ came aboard. Rockwell was great as Hammer though. That guy is gold in everything he does.

I was kinda hoping to see some more references to the Mandarin, but this movie did a good job of avoiding Schumacher-Batman Syndrome.

Geek logic:

[WindupAtheist]

Yeah, but surely it can be moved mechanically, if not actually picked up and wielded by a person. I mean what, if you put Mjolnir on a truck, it'll spin it's wheels in place unless the right person is driving?

[stu]

I was going to ask that, but I feel like only a living being could move it. Or maybe they picked the hammer up by the earth underneath and just moved the dirt. That looked like a big hole they dug.

edit: Looks like the hole might be a crater...

[Ratman_tf]

edit: Looks like the hole might be a crater...

That's what it looked like to me. A crater where maybe Thor fell to earth, and Mijolnir lay by the side.

As to cheating the Excalibur test. 

[SurfD]

I was under the impression that (unless they change the lore from comic book to comic book) only another "God" could lift the Hammer.

As to "escavating" it, I believe that is supposed to be a crater where it fell to earth.  If it follows somewhat with the recent Thor reboot, he gets Banished from Asgard and stripped of his powers for not sympathising enough with the mortals, and his hammer crashes to earth, where it is treated much like excalibur was.  People come from far and wide to try to pick it up, but no one can.

I seem to remember in one of the comics, Doc Doom actually shows up, and using all his power actually manages to lift it like a foot or two off the ground, untill it blasts him across the countryside.

[NowhereMan]

In canon it can be lifted by one who is 'worthy' Beta Ray Bill has some of Thor's power since he was worthy enough to lift the hammer and did a good job with it to get rewarded by Odin. Typically it's only Thor who gets to lift it though (aside from frog Thor whose now one of the Pet Avengers or some crap) I'm sure there have been a few other characters that managed it (aside from the non-canon ones like Deadpool or Spiderman). I'm guessing the Thor film is going to end with him getting sent to Earth as Donald Blake (since IIRC it's mostly taking place in Asgard) and having to get the hammer back.

[Ironwood]

Hulk picked it up and beaned Thor with it in the Avengers animated.

That was retarded.

[NowhereMan]

That reminds me that Red Hulk recently beat Thor by repeatedly smashing him in the face with his own hammer. Which he managed by jumping with him into space and grabbing Thor's hands in a retarded version of 'quite hitting yourself'. So, yeah, the animated retarded looks pretty small time in comparison.

[Khaldun]

I'm pretty sure it's been moved by mechanical means quite a few times in the comics. Even picked up by robots on occasion. But for most of his history, Thor can summon the hammer to him from almost any distance and through any obstacles, though when he's been Don Blake, if that takes too long, he'll revert to his civilian form and the hammer will turn into an inert stick. (It always seemed to me that Blake should be able to summon the stick the same way Thor can summon the hammer...)

Anyway, I thought IM2 was just kind of meh. Fine, ok, not bad, but not particularly good either. Hard to put my finger on the main source of its meh-ness, though.

[Ironwood]

...Red Hulk ?

No, wait.  I don't wanna know.

[LK]

What bothers me about the whole Red Hulk / Red She Hulk / every fucking thing going on there is that it's like they can't introduce a new character successfully. If they're going to put a spin on a franchise, they have to take an existing character with an extremely convoluted history that has no business in superheroism and force them into an existing hero's status quo as another hero.

Example: Pepper Potts as Rescue.

There are days I want to choke Marvel for being so set in their ways.

[NowhereMan]

Pepper Potts as rescue was weird and I don't really think it worked but it made sense in the context of the storyline with those characters.

Red Hulk was a whole new level of retardation having him beat up people he probably shouldn't be able to touch and topping it off with having the reveal of his identity be utterly retarded. And his 'secret' identity was the main character gimmick.

[Mrbloodworth]

...Red Hulk ?

No, wait.  I don't wanna know.

Grey was the best. 

[HaemishM]

...Red Hulk ?

No, wait.  I don't wanna know.

Yeah, you really don't. It was fucking awful. Jeph Loeb (who I used to respect as a comics writer) went off the goddamn deep end sometime after his kid died and his writing went with him.

EDIT: I never did get to see the reveal of his identity. Was it Doc Samson?

[Cyrrex]

I don't think Hulk would be terribly comfortable with all of you referring to him by his skin color.  No wonder he is angry.

[NowhereMan]

EDIT: I never did get to see the reveal of his identity. Was it Doc Samson?

Oh much better.

[HaemishM]

Fuck me, that's awful.

[LK]

Don't worry, in 5 years they'll Retcon the shit out of it and Hulk can get back to being chased by the military.

I mean, if they can change over Spider Man like that through Deus Ex Mafuckina, the Hulk isn't immune.

[NowhereMan]

It does say something when the movie franchise reboot is probably less of a fuck you to the fans than the comic one, which is actually trying to stay in canon with the rest of Marvel Universe.

[UnSub]

I don't think Hulk would be terribly comfortable with all of you referring to him by his skin color.  No wonder he is angry.

"NOT CALL HULK RED! HULK IS PROUD NATIVE AMERICAN!"

[Hoax]

You know I had forgotten to read this thread and you guys missed something I might have missed if I hadn't seen this with a female. The little detail of Hammer's hands being all orange and nasty from spray on tan was a very nice touch.

I also missed Terrence Howard, he is a much better military man and compassionate but order following side kick.

Also do we know who is going to be in the Avengers movie yet?

[Velorath]

Also do we know who is going to be in the Avengers movie yet?

Iron Man, Cap, and Thor are obviously a given, along with Nick Fury.  Black Widow is likely, Rhodes might make an appearance, Edward Norton is open to coming back as the Hulk, and Jeremy Renner from Hurt Locker is apparently in negotiations to play Hawkeye.

[HaemishM]

I think Renner is confirmed as Hawkeye, as is Cheadle as War Machine.

[NowhereMan]

I had heard somewhere that they were going to go with the original line up, Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Hulk, Giant Man and Wasp. Obviously this seems somewhat weird since they've got a number of other heroes about but sort of makes sense based on the franchises that are around and would mirror the Ultimates line up (that has had a strong influence on some of the movie stuff like Nick Fury's appearance and Iron Man's character). Wouldn't shock me to see Cap being a bit more of a patriotic, conservative man out of time type in the Avengers flm.

[Lakov_Sanite]

There's no way they are tacking on backstories for giant man and wasp. As it is hawkeye is going to be a timesink on the movie that they probably don't want.  The whole point of an avengers movie is to do an ensemble that requires little to no explanation of the characters.  Plus, any more than thor/cap/hulk/ironman and maybe hawkeye is just too big a cast.

[Evildrider]

Well they could have Giant Man and Wasp if they can hurry out the Ant-Man movie!

Although it seems like Nathan Fillion is rumored to play Hank Pym and with Edgar Wright directing, it has little chance of being horrible!

[LK]

OK, that could be amazing. I'd watch an Ant Man movie with Nathan Fillion.

But he needs a Scarlett Johansson of a Janet Van Dyne, and preferably the Ultimate version of Jan.