Borderlands

[Rasix]

Convenience.  Yes, I understand that concept. 

You'll live.

[schild]

You'll live.

Never said otherwise.

[fuser]

I'm trying to find ANYTHING from this list on the steam release:

Not only will Borderlands be releasing for download on Steam, Steve Gibson of Gearbox also told us about a couple additional features that will be exclusive to the PC version. Given the amount of unique weapons in the game, you'll probably end up with some sweet-looking gun that none of your friends have. Want to show it off? You'll be able to export item cards to .jpg files. Additionally, the PC version will come with timedemo benchmark software, which admittedly isn't needed for the console versions, but will be a nice touch.

Finally, and what actually makes me the happiest, is that Steve promises that the PC version will have menu and inventory systems that are specifically designed for use with a mouse, the lack of which has been one of my bigger complaints about recent multi-platform games. Steve states that Gearbox is treating the PC version very seriously, and from what he's told me, it sounds like Gearbox on the right track.

• You'll be able to export item cards to .jpg files - No option unless you hit print screen  
• PC version will have menu and inventory systems that are specifically designed for use with a mouse - No, unless you count being able to move the mouse as a pointer

No wonder the game looked weird FOV is off but here's how to adjust it. Hit F10 or F11 for your preferred FOV.

Go to my documents\games\borderlands\willowgame

open willowinput.ini
add
Bindings=(Name="F10",Command="FOV 90",Control=False,Shift=False,Alt=False)
Bindings=(Name="F11",Command="FOV 110",Control=False,Shift=False,Alt=False)

[Kageh]

The revamped menus and inventory handling for the PC were quoted all over german gaming press too, I remember reading about them as being the actual reason for delaying the PC version.

[Amaron]

Apparently the public join game list lags like a mofo for me and some other people.   For some reason I couldn't invite friends to a private game but when I made a public game it worked right away.   Anyways except for the lobby thing the invite/drop-in stuff seems to work fine.   Gameplay was smooth for people joining but then again I was the host and I've pretty hefty cable through UVerse.

The gamespy thing is kind of retarded when they could of just used Steam but it doesn't really seem to matter much after you are actually playing.

[Nonentity]

You can right-click on a weapon and click 'save screenshot', and it DOES save the screenshot of the item.

However, it saves it as a 1050x1050 BMP. Real useful, that.

[schild]

I'd prefer a 1050x1050 BMP over a compressed JPG.

That said:

Worst menus in the history of gaming.

Music is better in Torchlight.

This game, THEORETICALLY, ain't shabby. Feels like I'm walking in a console world though. They seriously need to patch the fuck out of this and stop giving us bullshit marketing speak.

[Segoris]

Is the friends list for games using the gamespy friends or is there a way to load up friends lists from elsewhere?

Also, I'm looking for a game if anyone has room.

[ezrast]

So my irrational unwillingness to buy perma-DRM'd stuff meets unexpected justification. Interesting.

Is the interface bullshit the kind of thing you'll get used to after a week, or does the actual gameplay feel wrong too? I was planning on picking this up tomorrow (will be my only opportunity for a few days), and still am, but now you all have me thinking maybe I should wait for more impressions. Or just spend my money on Torchlight instead.

[Modern Angel]

The online play is made of absolute fail.  Click join public games and it apparently loads EVERY SINGLE GAME that exists anywhere.  There's no information about ping or location for any of the games.  Oh, and this can take a very long time and basically hangs your system for 3-5 minutes.  That's on top of timing out trying to join any game.  But I haven't forwarded ports yet so I might be able to fix that last part.

This is looking to be a LAN party only game.  Fuckin clownshoes.

Single player is fun so far.  I already got a sick purple SMG with a scope that's my baby.  But fuck gamespy and online mode.

Forwarded ports, can't play private. Can't play public, crashes the game. Crashes friends games. This is the worst release day I've bought in years. YEARS. Worse than any MMO I've bought in years and I'm not remotely joking.

[schild]

If someone asked me right now which one was the one worth buying for loot, I'd say Torchlight. The guns are cool, but Torchlight is the better PC (READ: FUCKING PERSONAL COMPUTER) game.

[schild]

After dinner I think I'm setting up an HAMACHI server. Gamespy makes me cringe.

[NiX]

THE FUTURE IS NOW!

[Segoris]

So my irrational unwillingness to buy perma-DRM'd stuff meets unexpected justification. Interesting.

Is the interface bullshit the kind of thing you'll get used to after a week, or does the actual gameplay feel wrong too? I was planning on picking this up tomorrow (will be my only opportunity for a few days), and still am, but now you all have me thinking maybe I should wait for more impressions. Or just spend my money on Torchlight instead.

The UI is complete shit, but yeah it is something you can adjust to. Drag N' Drop inventory, click to select, and a few other things that are just in every damn PC game were just not added. And I'm only about 5 mins in.

THE FUTURE IS NOW!

I had that until I restarted Steam, just a thought if you haven't already

[Tarami]

Hamachi doesn't work. I've tried. I'm guessing they have a blacklist of processes and Borderlands is on it, since it's widely used to play pirated games over the net.

[Musashi]

Well I decided to try Torchlight first, and save this game for later.  So, I guess I made a right decision.  I'll probably play this game at some point.  My plan is to play one at a time though, in order to spread them out over the time it will take for Diablo to be done.  Maybe by the time I'm ready to play it, after I'm bored with Torchlight, it will be better.

[Modern Angel]

Hamachi doesn't work. I've tried. I'm guessing they have a blacklist of processes and Borderlands is on it, since it's widely used to play pirated games over the net.

Then they need to fix their shit so I can play online. Which, of course, you agree with along with everyone else but I'm slightly raging here because this is fucking terrible.

[NiX]

Hamachi doesn't work. I've tried. I'm guessing they have a blacklist of processes and Borderlands is on it, since it's widely used to play pirated games over the net.

Try an older version of Hamachi. This worked when they blacklisted StarCraft.

[fuser]

Hamachi doesn't work. I've tried. I'm guessing they have a blacklist of processes and Borderlands is on it, since it's widely used to play pirated games over the net.

I bet you need to force bind the ip to the game to your hamachi ip

[Modern Angel]

I'm torn. On the one hand force binding, Hamachi, etc are not terribly complex. On the other, two third party programs and counting to play the game? Seriously?

[fuser]

Editing My Documents > MyGames> Borderlands > WillowGame > WillowEngine.ini

And changed the section FullScreenMovie to:

[FullScreenMovie]
SkippableMovies=2K_logo
SkippableMovies=Gearbox_logo
SkippableMovies=Attract
SkippableMovies=NVidia

To get rid of all the stupid movies

[NiX]

When was the last time INI editing was this needed? Doom3?

[Tarami]

Re: Hamachi

I read of people who had tried and failed with all sorts of versions, so I didn't really bother digging too much, because I felt the game basically didn't deserve it.

Fuser:
I got Hamatchi as my primary adapter (In Network Connections -> Advanced Settings), which should do the same thing (hell, it works for pretty much every other game.) I will try that though when I got someone to try it with.

As for the general rage over a shitty, shitty, SHITTY motherfucking port, add me in.

[Hoax]

Editing My Documents > MyGames> Borderlands > WillowGame > WillowEngine.ini

And changed the section FullScreenMovie to:

[FullScreenMovie]
SkippableMovies=2K_logo
SkippableMovies=Gearbox_logo
SkippableMovies=Attract
SkippableMovies=NVidia

To get rid of all the stupid movies

We need to start saving these in one place.  It is what it is at this point.

Game seems great, feels a little funny but not in a bad way.  I can aim console cockjokeys cannot (watch anyone playing the game on console, the lack of y-axis movement is a joke, also fucking auto aim heh.  The shooting and looting parts are great.  The character screen access stuff is terrible but not as terrible as one might think from this thread.  Needs a patch for sure though because its really a punch in the cock.

I read the thread twice and I'm still not sure what the fuck to do to play with people.  Find my Gamespy ID and then do what now?

GamespyID = El1t3one according to retrieval system.

[trias_e]

GameSpy ID=trias

The consolitis has infected this one deep.

I have no mic for vent, just fyi.

[caladein]

Just finished the first "boss" up, Steam says I'm a bit over an hour into the game.  I quite like it.  The style's all there and the loot is fun.

The interface doesn't take a lot of getting used to although it does have the "Gigantic Text" issue that Fallout 3 had.  I wouldn't call the interface "good" but you don't need to interact with it as much as you might in a Western RPG.

The online play being doesn't bother me so much because I wasn't going to do any of it anyway and I had no problems getting to preload, or decrypt, or start.  Just started it up, changed the resolution to 1680x1050, moved Crouch to L-Ctrl, knocked the sensitivity down a bit, turned subtitles on and aim assist off and I was off to the races.  So... your mileage may vary.

[Malakili]

Just finished the first "boss" up, Steam says I'm a bit over an hour into the game.  I quite like it.  The style's all there and the loot is fun.

The interface doesn't take a lot of getting used to although it does have the "Gigantic Text" issue that Fallout 3 had.  I wouldn't call the interface "good" but you don't need to interact with it as much as you might in a Western RPG.

The online play being doesn't bother me so much because I wasn't going to do any of it anyway and I had no problems getting to preload, or decrypt, or start.  Just started it up, changed the resolution to 1680x1050, moved Crouch to L-Ctrl, knocked the sensitivity down a bit, turned subtitles on and aim assist off and I was off to the races.  So... your mileage may vary.

My friend and I just finished playing our first game, we are level 10 now.  My experience is very similar to yours, but multiplayer seems to be working fine.   We did a private game, I did crash the one time I tried to browse public games though.

The UI is pretty lulz, but its actually not SO bad.  For whoever said something about having to hit enter to sell stuff, I've been able to just click "ok."

Liking it so far, shooting bad guys and having them explode into guns = a winning formula, and I am willing to forgive some console-itis.

[RUiN 427]

back in the console world...

I finally tried some multiplayer grouping. Not bad at all. I'm hesitant to start any of the main quests i havn't done yet with a group but i do enjoy hopping into a lower level characters game to help them devistate dungeons. Even though the main quest is meh, I'm sure i won't be so hesitant with multiple play throughs.

[Malakili]

If anyone who isn't playing is interested in seeing the game in action I've got a livestream up right now  www.livestream.com/newslang

[Yoru]

Just got home after a 4-hour session with a 4-man LAN game. Yes, LAN games work with the Offline-Steam "fixed" international version. I imagine Hamachi would work too, although the pings from here would be unplayable.

It seems to work best as a LAN/office co-op game. Our little group is hovering around 15 at the moment and had a lot of fun fucking around with vehicles, running shit over.

The interface is something awful, indeed. Heavily consolized, all kinds of unnecessary prompts and keystrokes. I've been able to use the mouse exclusively with the various menus, but they're just poorly laid out and a real pain to use. I don't want to click twice for every fucking gun I want to sell.

The initial key setup is but can fortunately be rebound.

The core game itself is fun, though. Dynamic music is nice. Second Wind system is great. I'd say I'm generally satisfied at the moment, we'll see how long it lasts.

[Murgos]

Decrypting...

[OcellotJenkins]

We need to start saving these in one place.  It is what it is at this point.

Here is a collection of them.

[McCow]

INI commands from notes I took today while at work.   Port info for the game as well.  Spoiler for huge.   

[sigil]

No issues whatsoever.Worked as advertized, no stutter or errors. Sorry you folks are having issues.

[rattran]

Consolitis, joined a game Velorath invited me to, it booted me as inactive after a minute or so (while not inactive) So no luck on multiplayer.

GameSpy sucks. Overall somewhat amusing game, but fuck is it obviously a console port with no pc thought.